Marvel's Luke Cage

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also when is this slump in pacing supposed to start

― ¶ (DJP), Tuesday, October 11, 2016 7:45 PM (yesterday)

Yeah, I felt the whole thing was well paced, compared to Daredevil and Jessica Jones. Daredevil being the slumpiest of the 3.

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link

I'm trying DD s2 right now, struggling from the beginning tbf

Spottie, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 18:53 (seven years ago) link

you don't have to know anything about any other marvel stuff to watch luke cage. or daredevil.

scott seward, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link

i'll tell you one thing, my 11 year old is totally growing up a DC kid. "dark" marvel does not entice him at all. he loves flash and supergirl.

scott seward, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 19:01 (seven years ago) link

you don't have to know anything about any other marvel stuff to watch luke cage. or daredevil.

― scott seward, Wednesday, October 12, 2016 8:00 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you get odd references to things elsewhere but I think they're peripheral enough not to confuse. Like what the touts around the neighborhood are trying to sell people but might as well be another pop reference if you haven't seen the other stuff.

THough maybe it is assumed taht most people would have anyway.

Still wondering how popular a show like any of these Netflix Marvel's are. Are they current expectations taht you'll have seen them if you're remotely into watching trending tv or are they still a bit marginal?

Did wonder if anybody would be thinking the market would be large enough to start trying to sell tie in hoodies for real

Stevolende, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 19:08 (seven years ago) link

idgaf about any othe Marvel shows/movies tbh and found this perfectly coherent. I'm sure I missed a bunch of callbacks/easter eggs but they had no bearing on the actual plot.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link

how is supergirl, scott? think a 9yo girl could dig/follow it?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 19:44 (seven years ago) link

yeah, i think? depends on the kid, i guess. it has a lot of action but of the comic book variety. not the bleak no exit world of marvel.

scott seward, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 19:49 (seven years ago) link

Hell is other series

ally mcbeal is in supergirl. haven't seen her in a while.

scott seward, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 19:54 (seven years ago) link

Finally finished this the other night. I thought it was great, better than DD season 2 for sure. And a surprisingly morose ending!

This show had the most attractive cast I have seen on TV in a long time.

GUNSHOW POOPHOLE (Phil D.), Friday, 14 October 2016 15:55 (seven years ago) link

i told Cyrus about the new DC universe show that is on Netflix and he seemed into it and i talked about the differences between the DC and Marvel shows and he said he tried to watch the first episode of Luke Cage but half the show was just people standing around talking in a barber shop so he stopped watching. the youth have spoken.

scott seward, Friday, 14 October 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link

i would be excited about the DC show too but i friggin' hate time travel. some serious bill & ted shit in the trailer for that show. einstein gets punched in the face!

scott seward, Friday, 14 October 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link

Loved the rapper cameo in this.

Godspeed You! Black Widow (Leee), Friday, 14 October 2016 20:22 (seven years ago) link

which?

mh 😏, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link

All the live music seemed pretty good.
I think main rapper cameo was Method Man in attempted robbery drugstore, then radio show where he gave an improvised rap.

Stevolende, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

it's called freestyling fyi

mh 😏, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:36 (seven years ago) link

This was fucking badass

I hope Mike Colter ends up in everything based on his work in this. Ditto Simone Cook and Mahershala Ali.

¶ (DJP), Saturday, 15 October 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

i am only a few eps in but i fucking love this, i retract my earlier "slow & corny tag" & say this is cool, badass and vv enjoyable

also full-bearded shaggy Luke Cage in prison, he looked like a lion <3

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 October 2016 04:26 (seven years ago) link

can someone tell me about the landscape painting (photo?) behind Cottonmouth's desk?

kinda dark desert maybe with a glowing sky/weird vignette effect, I'm really into it

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 October 2016 05:29 (seven years ago) link

from the set decorator

alison Froling ‏@moonraker_1 21h21 hours ago
@licjulie The painting is original painted by amazing scenic team- loosely in style of Charles Alston- we wanted tension btwn Lt&dk- & wings

Number None, Sunday, 16 October 2016 09:33 (seven years ago) link

it's so good. wow to them, that's awesome.

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 October 2016 19:27 (seven years ago) link

i will watch this sooner or later but this elicited a chuckle

http://67.media.tumblr.com/9aa69c724c8ba81d16a6c110a7bedfaa/tumblr_oegd8bBjRQ1s71q1zo1_1280.png

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Thursday, 20 October 2016 00:22 (seven years ago) link

that's every marvel netflix show!

mh 😏, Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:13 (seven years ago) link

well yeah but this is the active thread so...

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Thursday, 20 October 2016 14:31 (seven years ago) link

I'm going slow through this series (just watched ep2 last night) but man the music in this is really well done - bits of Byrd's "Cristo Redentor" for the bookend scenes, the nightclub song repurposing the riff from George Benson's "Footin'" as a 60s R&B tune (also meant as a nod to Diamond D's "Freestyle (Yo That's That Shit)", I assume. Plus it just looks great and the cast is v good. Cottonmouth guy overdoes it a bit but whatever.

Didn't connect Turk's "I'm goin back to Hell's Kitchen" line to Daredevil until this morning, I had registered his name when it was dropped during the chess game but I didn't connect it to the bit player in Miller's Daredevil run til afterward

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 October 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link

some of the best original music for a marvelverse project yet IMO

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Friday, 21 October 2016 17:10 (seven years ago) link

xp have you watched Daredevil? He appears there a few times.

mh 😏, Friday, 21 October 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

I couldn't make it through a single episode of Daredevil. It was all downhill after the credit sequence.

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 October 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link

Don't watch DD, you'll hate it more than I do.

Godspeed You! Black Widow (Leee), Friday, 21 October 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link

Daredevil had so many polite assailants that waited to take their turns in hallways

sarahell, Friday, 21 October 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link

i really hate the acting in DD

Spottie, Friday, 21 October 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link

and even not in hallways! I'm not the type of viewer that focuses on the credibility of fight scenes, but it got too ridiculous even for me.

sarahell, Friday, 21 October 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link

Luke Cage was so so so much better than Daredevil

sarahell, Friday, 21 October 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link

i still like jessica jones just a tad more than luke cage, if only because JJ has by far the lowest cornball factor of any marvel thing i've seen without ever seeming like a posturing sort of grit. like SPOILER her final moment with kilgrave

that said a lot of the cornier stuff in luke cage is moving in a way that falls flat in other marvel stuff, because colter's depiction of cage is hugely convincing as an imperfect but earnest hero

i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Friday, 21 October 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link

so far there's barely been any action at all in Luke Cage! which doesn't really bother me. It really is more like a black noir/crime thing a la Himes/Goines/Slim etc.

xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 October 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link

lol i didn't finish my sentence there re: that jessica jones moment, whoops xp self

i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Friday, 21 October 2016 18:42 (seven years ago) link

Jessica Jones was great. It's why I watched the other two. Daredevil is the weakest show of the 3. I don't think it's just because he's a cute scruffy white guy, but, that's part of it.

sarahell, Friday, 21 October 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link

DD is still worth it just for Foggy and Karen, though.

GUNSHOW POOPHOLE (Phil D.), Friday, 21 October 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link

daredevil is like, perfectly fine popcorn shit imo for the most part, but its failings (all dialogue not spoken by scott glenn, many though not all the performances, some, uh, /questionable/ portrayals of japanese ppl, etc.) really stand out compared to cage and JJ

i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Friday, 21 October 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link

i was a huge fan of the bike chain fight in season 2, despite the somewhat valid criticisms of the action choreography upthread. but that in and of itself, to bring it back to cage, didn't impress me as much as luke storming the crispus attucks center while listening to "bring da ruckus"

i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Friday, 21 October 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link

so far there's barely been any action at all in Luke Cage! which doesn't really bother me. It really is more like a black noir/crime thing a la Himes/Goines/Slim etc.

xp

― Οὖτις, Friday, October 21, 2016 1:41 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Don't know if you've made it that far but they explicitly namedrop those authors (among others) within the show.

the most corrupt, deceitful, lying, caniving, treasonist, POS (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 October 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link

yeah, i chuckled when Frankie Faison's character mentioned Richard Price and Dennis Lehane, as they both wrote episodes of The Wire

sarahell, Friday, 21 October 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link

yeah those names are all dropped in ep2

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 October 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link

which is pretty heavy-handed DO U C meta shit but eh whatever

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 October 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link

it is, but keep in mind ppl who are well aware of the through-lines between cage and chester himes/mosley/goines novels are, ah, not this show's primary audience.

i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Friday, 21 October 2016 19:06 (seven years ago) link

How mainstream is the audience for this?
Is it something that most people are likely to see or is it still in the realms of comic book fanboy stuff for most people?

Hoping that it is at least stumbled on.
& I guess Netflix is in a lot of people's homes now worldwide.

Stevolende, Friday, 21 October 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link

I think the Marvel Netflix shows have proven to be pretty popular but I also don't know that there's an effective metric for actually measuring that popularity atm.

the most corrupt, deceitful, lying, caniving, treasonist, POS (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 October 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link

my FB feed isnt lit up with posts about it like Stranger Things was but I've seen a couple.

Spottie, Friday, 21 October 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link

yeah, i chuckled when Frankie Faison's character mentioned Richard Price and Dennis Lehane, as they both wrote episodes of The Wire

Pelecanos and the other guy got a shout too!

Godspeed You! Black Widow (Leee), Friday, 21 October 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link


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