The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal - US elections 2016: the october surprises

1986: David Bowie stars in the major motion picture "Labyrinth".

this is so great

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/major-gop-donors-are-asking-trump-their-money-back-n664661

The long-time Republican bundler, who has raised money in Florida, Ohio, Los Angeles and in the Northeast, said that he is ashamed of his solicitations of cash for Trump, adding that he raised money for him as recently as last week.

"I'm embarrassed. I'm really embarrassed" he said. "I shook hands with him last week and now I want to wash my hand."

I mean yeah you wanna go "wait really did you not hear the campaign, you know, last week and the week before" but OTOH this is an utterly great time for people to go "you know what, I'm done"

sounds like that second debate performance really staunched the bleeding huh

for the people un-unendorsing rn, i wonder what they'll do when the next oppo drops

from a political standpoint, the timing couldn't be better, damage to GOP is maximized

xp

clinton leading the infamous LA time tracker as of today btw

And speaking of which, a must-read:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/upshot/how-one-19-year-old-illinois-man-is-distorting-national-polling-averages.html?_r=0

lol i spent ages trying to work up a bowie/labyrinth/shoes/toes gag and couldn't find one

Roffle:

https://twitter.com/rachaelmbade/status/786241701761409025

well that's obv she's still trying to help him win her thing all along has been "keep yr eyes on the prize"

countdown to Conway getting fired...

for the people un-unendorsing rn, i wonder what they'll do when the next oppo drops

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, October 12, 2016 12:53 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

totally, people like kasich who have just been in hiding this whole time will look the smartest in the long run

anyway, like I was saying re: Ryan

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/jim-bridenstine-no-support-paul-ryan-229666

what does getting ryan even accomplish other than feeding another body to the nihilist beast running the gop

if most of these guys were operating based on making rational long-term decisions we wouldn't be where we are

https://twitter.com/camanpour/status/786215156430680064

iatee otm these are idiotic nihilists, plain and simple, with no understanding of or interest in governing

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CulWOHvWYAApI-m.jpg

o_O

Could there be an aftershock in Idaho if Utah went for McMullin? It's a border state, plenty of Mormons, low population, a U.S. senator who's a #NeverTrump guy...

If McMullin gains further attention, perhaps, but I can't see it going that far.

there might be some snowball effect from this poll

Even Clinton Valley Center lies about where she was on 9/11...jogging in Battery Park LOL. She was 4 miles uptown. Poor woman, imagine having those parents. She never had a chance.

Xxp yeah ok Rudi don't let any photographic evidence get in your way

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CulWOHuW8AEW9j7.jpg

shes totally behind him how do you expect him to 'see' her

:D

Give the guy a break, she's got a mask on.

Lol

Guiliani losing any of his respectibility and being exposed for all to see as a total shitbag is a great side effect of this election.

He seems slightly senile to me.

Forget his lie or loss of memory, but "Don't tell me you belong to our very, very tight group of "never forget" ' is just mind blowing. WE DESERVE TO BE PART OF NEVER FORGET AND HARDLY ANYONE DOES, ITS THE SHRED OF CRED IM CLINGING TOO NEVER FORGET

never forget crew: remember that summer? friends4life

You know he'll rest on the "That was days later" excuse since she was on the Capitol steps with the rest of her colleagues that night.

Except it's a Getty photograph dated September 12, which is what she's been talking about

good polling inside baseball

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/upshot/how-one-19-year-old-illinois-man-is-distorting-national-polling-averages.html?_r=0

Kinda wish Pataki did have a windbreaker that just said ICE on it.

The World Trade Center was my friend. You all didn't even say hi when she passed you in the hall.

Sept 12thers are just bandwagon jumpers

Nuke the Confederacy

― GUNSHOW POOPHOLE (Phil D.), Wednesday, October 12, 2016 11:58 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or maybe send us a Democrat who's worth a shit

yeah the former states of the confederacy are just waiting for a true left-winger pro-worker candidate and then they'll vote dem lololol

Morbz on the delta

i was just this morning looking at the states adlai stevenson carried... interesting map

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CubYo-GWcAAHwzS.jpg

love 2 follow individual polls

https://twitter.com/MULawPoll/status/786257047960424448
Among likely voters in WI:
Thursday: Trump 41%, Clinton 40%
Friday: Clinton 44%, Trump 38%
Saturday and Sunday: Clinton 49%, Trump 30%

Didn't realize that was in reverse chrono order for a sec and was like "the hell?" xp

xpost Was just noticing that. Not surprising given the ambivalence around Trump there.

independent voters are the worst

Clinton went from +1 to +19 in two days? Good lord.

i'm not sure how big those samples are for each day, so i wouldn't necessarily read toooooo much into it, and saturday/sunday were perhaps exceptionally bad times to poll trump supporters, but that organization is legit (at least in the sense that Nate Silver follows them), and they see the same 10-20% swing in every stratification (men, women, evangelicals, etc. see the rest of the account)

re: the chart caek just posted - for easy reference, the first debate was 9/26, and it does look like it had at least some effect on republicans since the unfavorables bumped up a few points there (and stayed, so it wasn't just noise). the access hollywood tape came out late in the day 10/7, so the 2-point shift in the topmost number there may hint at a bigger change to come. all in all though a candidate shedding nearly eight points of favorability in their own camp, in two weeks, a month before the election, is... not good.