The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal - US elections 2016: the october surprises

there's definitely a difference between making an (actual) typo on twitter and making the same "typo" 3 different times in an email

Never thought I'd see the day when Glenn Beck supports a Democrat, are pigs flying somewhere?
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/10/glenn-beck-electing-hillary-clinton-moral-ethical-choice/

people who misuse its/it's are monsters obv

your crazy!!

Robert Christgau on Hillary and canvassing.

So right, Bernie. On the issues he was Hillary's superior, on implementation anything but. Admirably untouched by big money, he was undeterred by a single attack ad or exposé of his wild socialist youth because he was the opponent the right wanted. So he was dizzied by the unsullied adulation he inspired just like every other new star in history. Of course he reveled in his newfound fame after sixty years of failing to lead humanity into righteousness. But when his wife, Jane, reported indignantly that he'd called the Daily News's sane follow-up questions on breaking up the banks "an inquisition," I lost what little faith I had that he was ready to govern.

Yet not only did he beef up the platform more than seemed possible, he now agrees with me on Hillary and is doing something about it on campuses nationwide. Pullquote: "I know about as much about third-party politics as anybody in Congress. And I want anybody who's thinking about voting against Hillary Clinton, and casting a protest vote because she is not all they would like her to be, to understand what the consequences for the country and the world will be

Should do wonders for Nader fans too.

Beck is so boring. Jones & Drudge...that's the good shit. REAL insanity. REAL nastiness. the hurricane was FAKE

there's definitely a difference between making an (actual) typo on twitter and making the same "typo" 3 different times in an email

― k3vin k.

whenever i try to copy edit my own writing i'm utterly appalled at how awful my spelling and grammar are.

somehow I bet Morbz is unconvinced

xxp

fucking hell, kellyane conway, going there

http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/10/kellyanne-conway-says-lawmakers-guilty-of-sexual-harassment.html

“I would talk to some of the members of Congress there when I was younger and prettier, them rubbing against girls, sticking their tongues down women’s throats who were uninvited, didn’t like it,” Conway told Matthews, according to Roll Call. “You’re saying, ‘yeah,’ because you know it’s true … And some of them, by the way, are on the list of people who won’t support Donald Trump because they all ride around on their high horse.”

i'm trying to read that voice piece but my lord what font are they using, because the "x" in that font turns every word containing an "x" into a '90s mountain dew advertisement.

that was yesterday, do keep up!

xp

or at least an ear X-tacy bumper sticker

look i'm drinking from the broken sewer pipe as fast as i can

new thread title

there's your new thread title

xp!

So, does this mean kellyanne conway approves of sexual harassment, but only when it is done by Trump and those loyal to him and not when it is perpetrated by disloyal Republicans, or what?

Top post on the schadenfreude goldmine that is /r/the_donald right now

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/56zr4w/im_35_and_today_i_registered_to_vote_for_the/

Notable for the first thread of comments, which are accidentally spot-on

yeah no i'm not looking at the sub for any reason

seriously

well maybe on nov 9th

Robert Christgau - Confessions of a Hillary Supporter (Village Voice)
The Dean -- people still call him that, right? -- dips his characteristically left-leaning toe into uncharacteristic political commentary. And why not? He's earned it after this many years (I stopped paying attention after ham and bomb icons took the place of insightful criticism around 1990 or so), and his voice has finally shed the arcane tangents that at times made his year-end essays all but incomprehensible. But this essay doesn't reveal anything new, and reading it isn't my idea of fun. It ought to be one or the other, if not both. B-

yeah no i'm not looking at the sub for any reason

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:24 AM (twenty-two seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's just lots of dicks saying "LANDSLIDE INCOMING"

bah, xgau cd have said that in 63 words max

xp

Tarfumes' parody or xgau's essay?

LADY BRACKNELL: Both if necessary.

indeed

back in the day unrecommended

well maybe on nov 9th

are you kidding? on nov 9th it's gonna be wall to wall "trump really won, the rigged media made up lots of fake black anchor baby votes to steal the election"

or maybe that's actually what you're looking for idk

lol only so i can post cryingjordan.jpeg

Bill Mitchell's Twitter is gonna be amazing on Nov 9th, might make all this worth it after all

this is like the briar patch story, without a brer rabbit

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cugw4ajXgAAjpz9.jpg

did ryan essentially give up on his presidential ambitions once he became speaker of the house? i mean it's like jumping into a giant sewer filled with insane ppl, basically seems impossible to keep any likeability or dignity in that position...

(i was gonna ask if any speaker had ever been president but googled and i guess only one: james polk)

people were surprised to see some nutso tweets from the donald account "on iphone" as opposed to the OG "from android" -- but don't, i guess:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/300445-exclusive-trump-campaign-ceo-wanted-to-destroy-ryan#.V_1FoXRqh10.twitter

“Bannon has Alex Jones-level paranoia about Paul Ryan,” the source said, referring to the right-wing radio host and conspiracy theorist who runs the pro-Trump website Infowars.

“He goes on these amazing rants,” the source added of Bannon. “He thinks Paul Ryan is part of a conspiracy with George Soros and Paul Singer, in which elitists want to bring one world government.”

In the Dec. 1 email, Breitbart’s Washington editor, Matt Boyle, suggested to Bannon via email that a story promoting Ryan’s planned overhaul of the mental health system would be a good way to “open a bridge” to Ryan.

Bannon wasn’t keen on the idea.

“I’ve got a cure for mental health issue,” Bannon wrote to Boyle. “Spank your children more.”

“I get that,” responded Boyle, “but this is a place where we can open a bridge to Paul Ryan --- we're playing the very long long long game Steve.”

Replied Bannon: “Long game is him gone by spring.”

and replace him with what? ben carson?

Imagining what would happen if Trump tried to stand again in 2020.

i'm having trouble imagining the future of the GOP six weeks from now tbh. really have no clue wtf is in store.

Steve King

xp

jeff sessions going for it by saying he isn't sure pussy grabbing is sexual assault

really have no clue wtf is in store.

I don't think Ryan's going to lose his majority tbh, but his opponents are gonna be emboldened and he's going to be reduced to Boehner 2.0. Cue freedom caucus revolt, gov't shutdowns, assorted temper tantrums and in-fighting. Which is likely to last until 2018 and then who knows what happens.

Senate GOP will be p much as it was prior to them reclaiming the majority in 2014.

Nativism is now the GOP mainstream. McCain, et. al are no longer part of that mainstream.

yeah those guys are gonna be put out to pasture, they have no power in the party now and it's obvious

legislatively and structurally what that means I haven't quite thought through. GOP will have no incentive as a party to compromise, and I'm under no illusions that these guys are so principled that they will buck the party line with votes - seems more likely they'll just be humiliated and cowed into going along with whatever batshit insanity their leadership is craven enough to tolerate.

where Cruz falls in all this is a real mystery - now absolutely everybody will hate him, both the Trumplings and the "establishment"

lol @ "i get that, but"

the funny thing is that Trump as a force in the party will be totally spent following his loss. I mean, what's he gonna do - become a lobbyist? Run for a Senate seat? Fuck that that's small potatoes to him, and he's not actually interested in governing or government. It's not like the party will have him to turn to as a strategist or savior wandering in the wilderness or party satrap. He's done/gone. But the party will remain and be damaged by the divisions he sowed. There will inevitably be people in the party who see him as a template for their own ambitions, though, and their stupidity and dangerousness will now have an open platform to be paraded about on. Are there younger, relatively untarnished figures that can pick up the pieces? Nikki Haley or someone like that? I don't know. Obviously Christie and Newt and Giuliani are all finished. McConnell probably wants to retire so bad. Ryan wanted to be president but no way is that happening now. Maybe Pence will come out of it okay, who knows.

An election like this one is unlikely to change much in the current dynamic. HRC won't have much in the way of coattails to sweep in a new Congress along with her big win, because however much she has tried to attach herself to a domestic policy agenda, the election has become purely a referendum on Trump, which means almost nothing politically the day after Trump loses. So even if the Senate turns barely Democrat (50-50 or 51-49) and the Republican House margin narrows to under a dozen, the status quo ante will reassert itself almost instantaneously.

agreed. if those margins move significantly though, things *will* be different. and it does seem possible - or at least more likely than it has ever been during this campaign - that the GOP will suffer catastrophic losses.

the xgau essay would've been better if it were all about his adventures canvassing for the dems, rest of it was pretty much tedious conventional wisdom (complete w/ a sneering anti-sanders tangent)

there was no status quo, though. the party was in disarray _before_ trump showed up. that's why he's been able to do so well- they have no vision, no direction, and no leadership.