The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal - US elections 2016: the october surprises

There was this one moment from yesterdays debate that absolutely disgusted me, and the talk upthread about how the media actually has done really well reminded me of it. I know this is long, but it's kinda important. It's one of the most unhinged rants of Trump's, the one that ends with him saying he will get a prosecutor to wreck Hillary's life if he wins, and while the media did notice the horror of that part, note the overwhelming amount of bullshit in just two minutes, and then check out the breathtaking way Raddatz follows up on it.

TRUMP: Well, you owe the president an apology, because as you know very well, your campaign, Sidney Blumenthal — he’s another real winner that you have — and he’s the one that got this started, along with your campaign manager, and they were on television just two weeks ago, she was, saying exactly that. So you really owe him an apology. You’re the one that sent the pictures around your campaign, sent the pictures around with President Obama in a certain garb. That was long before I was ever involved, so you actually owe an apology.

Number two, Michelle Obama. I’ve gotten to see the commercials that they did on you. And I’ve gotten to see some of the most vicious commercials I’ve ever seen of Michelle Obama talking about you, Hillary.

So, you talk about friend? Go back and take a look at those commercials, a race where you lost fair and square, unlike the Bernie Sanders race, where you won, but not fair and square, in my opinion. And all you have to do is take a look at WikiLeaks and just see what they say about Bernie Sanders and see what Deborah Wasserman Schultz had in mind, because Bernie Sanders, between super-delegates and Deborah Wasserman Schultz, he never had a chance. And I was so surprised to see him sign on with the devil.

But when you talk about apology, I think the one that you should really be apologizing for and the thing that you should be apologizing for are the 33,000 e-mails that you deleted, and that you acid washed, and then the two boxes of e-mails and other things last week that were taken from an office and are now missing.

And I’ll tell you what. I didn’t think I’d say this, but I’m going to say it, and I hate to say it. But if I win, I am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation, because there has never been so many lies, so much deception. There has never been anything like it, and we’re going to have a special prosecutor.

When I speak, I go out and speak, the people of this country are furious. In my opinion, the people that have been long-term workers at the FBI are furious. There has never been anything like this, where e-mails — and you get a subpoena, you get a subpoena, and after getting the subpoena, you delete 33,000 e-mails, and then you acid wash them or bleach them, as you would say, very expensive process.

So we’re going to get a special prosecutor, and we’re going to look into it, because you know what? People have been — their lives have been destroyed for doing one-fifth of what you’ve done. And it’s a disgrace. And honestly, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.

RADDATZ: Secretary Clinton, I want to follow up on that.

(CROSSTALK)

RADDATZ: I’m going to let you talk about e-mails.

I didn't watch it, thank god, but I imagine that's just full recovery mode. "Reload your tabs from last time?"

https://twitter.com/ESQPolitics/status/785633172771966976

I haven't read a Will column in years until that one, Al. I'd forgotten how seriously he takes himself a la HEY SIMPLETONS LOOK AT MY ERUDITE PROSE.

xp

He doesn't read, he has interns find quotes in a well-thumbed and gin-encrusted Bartlett's.

https://www.facebook.com/Trumpiness/videos/635008823345055/

would love a cold, gin-encrusted Bartlett's right now

today i saw an IMPEACH CLINTON bumper sticker on the back of a van in the middle of a bunch of trump stickers. looked new, not torn or faded, so not left over from the late 90s i don't think. just getting a head start i guess.

GOP is a felch

http://www.clickhole.com/blogpost/what-men-say-private-men-know-and-women-experience-5008

a reminder (via the table is the table) that the Clintons are (also) human garbage

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-clinton-foundations-legacy-in-haiti-haitians_us_57f604f9e4b087a29a5486fd

dear Mordy, fuck you and yours

Tell us what you did for Haitians.

what the fuck are you even referring to you super creep xp

You and your constant attempts at moral superiority remain on another planet where all people of every color and stripe live in the same cushioned bubble that you imagine yourself in. The difference in gravity has made you addled and your attempts to piss on everyone from those vaunted heights of righteousness continue to miss the mark by miles.

Worth a read:

https://twitter.com/MBGlenn/status/785641127604916224

That may or may not be my last ever semi-unintentional Aimless impersonation.

Oh, good, Morbz is now dumb enough to buy into Sanders dead-ender Ha! Goodman's ProPublica-furnished vendetta against the Red Cross.

Tomboto, go report me to your gangster Soviet employers

^^^
Very interesting.

Noah McCormack ‏@noahmccormack 11m11 minutes ago
@MBGlenn where were you when the GOP was attacking people who aren't white?

howbout Clinton replaces Trump, Sanders replaces Clinton and we have a real election?

(My post was a follow on to Ned's, btw. That Twitter thread is gonna go fun places.)

Yes that would be great. Now back to Earth

Worth a read:

https://twitter.com/MBGlenn/status/785641127604916224

― Ned Raggett, Monday, October 10, 2016 10:19 PM (six minutes ago)

woman was always an amoral idiot but it really hits home when she's able to make it about her. fair take?

More than fair.

significant as a bellwether tho

2 hours ago
Now some Trojan horse nationalist sexual predator invades the @GOP, eating it alive, and you cowards sit this one out? 5/

i wonder if the cognitive dissonance engine cranked at all during this one

what has Earth ever done for me?

wtf is wrong with you are you drunk? there are other threads for you to pick fights.

i wonder if the cognitive dissonance engine cranked at all during this one

I saw some smoke belch out, and then it happened a second time; turns out there's already a song about it

what has Earth ever done for me?

Did I ever tell you about the man who taught his asshole to talk?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/10/beth-moore-the-christian-women-speaking-out-about-trump-s-bad-news.html

can we please just ban him from the thread already? you guys realize we're gonna have to deal with him under a president Clinton

threadban function doesn't work

iatee you miiiight be the biggest thread fascist, congrats

you are often very rude

terrible bedside manner

Worth a read:

Welcome to your epiphany, MBGlenn. Expand upon it.

Fartz

lol? http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635

i don't really understand what this russian connection is all about. i'm guessing putin or someone sympathetic to the kremlin has embedded advisors inside trump's campaign? it was weird to see him insist that the US should support russia's alliance with assad

also changing the topic from aleppo to mosul as soon as he could. maybe he just didn't know what he was talking about, but still -- where is he getting the idea that russia and assad are doing more to fight isis than the rebels and the kurds?

^^Putin's Instagram, iirc

that newsweek article is very disturbing

i don't think there have to be moles. breitbart types crush on putin as beautiful white strongman and their spheres of media consumption+production overlap w the russian right's.

related to the above, one of the espn stations' debate counterprogramming was this:
http://www.espn.com/30for30/film?page=small-potatoes-who-killed-the-usfl

― maura, Monday, October 10, 2016 12:10 PM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Already recommended this one a couple of times in these threads but I'll recommend it again. I don't know how anyone can watch this and think Trump could run anything.

Article connecting Trump and Cohn, while weirdly leaving out Stone:

http://forward.com/opinion/351591/roy-cohn-and-the-shocking-jewish-mentorship-that-created-donald-trump/

Just watched the 30 For 30 about the USFL, and there was Cohn, adding an extra layer of slime to the story. I'm not going to say destroying the USFL was the WORST thing Trump ever did, but it's up there. God, he's always been such a spoiled, greedy, horrible businessman.

vladimir-putin-sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik

speaking of the USFL, he'll be reminded what 2nd and short feels like in less than a month

Tell us what you did for Haitians.

gave money to orgs that weren't the Clinton Foundation?

you guys always keepin me honest by insisting i solve all the problems your candidates worsen. tough love!