WestWorld: ...Where nothing can possibly go worng!

unless they go completely crazy with a future setting, all the entrances/exits are via elevators and hidden doors
the train bit seemed to be elevators dropping them into the staging area into the world, with the train "coming out of a tunnel" to go across the landscape toward the town

― dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Monday, October 10, 2016 7:19 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

was why I asked since it would break away from basic physical laws in a rather too magical way wouldn't it?
But it does seem that he goes down a corridor, through a door and is on a carriage in a moving train and the process is followed shortly afterwards by his friend.
You do see the light moving through the glass windows of the closed door in a way very reminiscent of a lift but it's onto a moving train.

Is the resort still called Delos in the reboot?

Yes.

Theory: white hat McPoyle introduced in this ep is past version of Ed Harris, his black hat friend gets killed, possibly by him, and the buried gun belonged to black hat friend. This season is going to be one long MIB origin story.

Also what's with the mouth on the lady scientist? She cursed more in one scene than all the faux saloon brawlers have together so far.

A dirty glass of cheap whiskey says white hat mcpoyle runs into Michael Wincott's host at some point and the music goes WAWOWEWAAA

Harris said "In a sense, I was born here"

it's shown in the first episode that the backstage area is actually in the same landscape as the park btw

You do see the light moving through the glass windows of the closed door in a way very reminiscent of a lift but it's onto a moving train.

It's on to a train car that seems to have some movement but the question "how do we get there?" seems like it'd be kind of silly if it felt like they were on a moving -- I figured they're dropped into the train car that has some illusion of movement, and the actual movement is when it pulls out of the "tunnel"

like idk maybe there's a teleporter but the simple explanation is they're dropped into a non-moving train that starts moving once everyone is on board

Dressing room car is on underground rails below the western train on parallel tracks - car switches on to a diagonal or perpendicular cantilever track, is carried up into a temporary gap between the western train cars, guest steps through door into the saloon car, dressing room rolls back down to underground tracks, western train cars close the gap.

I could draw this for you

it seems like there would be an easier way to transport the guests to the train

perhaps the guests could walk out onto a platform and step directly onto the train

Retrograde

televator

My 2nd favorite part of our cruise to Alaska was the opt-in guided tour of the engine room and all the kitchens and the bridge and such.

Kind of sad that you apparently have to ride for miles and serial murder a bunch of "crew" to get the same experience at a Delos resort. I'm just saying

well, they told you that was the engine room and the kitchen

could just be the show version they present to tourists

Every vacation you take is really just you and your fam buying some seats on the front half of the snowpiercer train. Think about it.

the simple explanation is they're dropped into a non-moving train that starts moving once everyone is on board

― dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Monday, October 10, 2016 1:52 PM (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thought this was p clear tbh

also man i would totally love a tour of the behind the scenes of an alaskan cruise ship that sounds boss

It is! Also I never knew cruise ships are all hybrid and have been for years (decades now I assume?). The fuel is only used to drive generators. Everything else including the propellers is electric.

huh --- i guess that makes sense, subs/etc are the same. as are, iirc (and to get back on topic), modern locomotives

Man I'm loving the Disneyland allegories- Hopkins is Walt, "The fans come back for the little details" etc. Agree that the maze is a super advanced thing for special fans like Club 33 or something. Thinking Ed H is more of an Adult Disney rather than a video game freak.

Is there some form of leger de main with a train in one of the original films. Not seen either in quite a while but am getting images of that from distant memory. Like they actually project the locale supposedly passed through onto something visible through the windows.

I like this fine. It is pretty. I'm worried that it's dramatically flimsy, though. I fear that its potential success is predicated on a series of gotcha reveals about who is/isn't a robutt, and the game-within-the-game, and moments of drawing back a curtain to say ~look, the answer was in front of you the whole time, see? ~ and that such things are weak devices for a continuing series. There are a lot of characters with storylines that are being dribbled out in miniscule proportions, and the rapid shuffling of plots seems designed to make it seem like more has happened than really has.

Things I think have happened.

The blonde robot lady is an old robot who has been used in other modules, and she's got a gun and is becoming conscious and maybe free-willed. .
So is the guy who was her father, but isn't her father any anymore because another guy is her father now.
Anthony Hopkins plays David Attenborough, and he's up to something and is releasing a new DLC that nobody knows about. Possibly he is a robot. A church, a child, and a snake are involved. He can control the snakes, but probably will die rom a snakebite.
Jeffrey Wright has a robot wife, or not?
Thandie Newton wakes up mid-surgery, and runs around nekkid in the backstage area.
The Good StoryLine Guy doesn't understand anything.
There's a lot of drama laid on pretty thick w/r/t to the humiliation of the robots. It is laid on by humiliating the robots, and having people stand without clothes for the pleasure of the viewing audience.

I like the idea that Hopkins' character might die from a snakebite, like Cleopatra and the asp. What did we do before Chekhov's Gun?

waited for the play to start

like, this show seems to be fairly unclear on the distinction between mystery, suspense, and dramatic irony, and feel they are all equally compelling. but mystery occasioned by not knowing significant crap because of deliberately blindered POV characters is a pretty weak form of engaging an audience. and it doesn't reward repeat viewing. and if mysteries are just mysteries because the camera cuts away at significant times or the characters are super laconic, or if they whisper things the audience can't hear it's just kind of a neener-neener-neener from the show's writing staff.

imo Jeffrey Wright is the robutt and has no idea but the boss who is banging him and David Attenborough both know

I think good storyline guy thinks he's Quentin Tarantino writing a spaghetti
western but he's more like the Boondocks Saints guy writing a John Wayne movie

That is an excellent analogy, we're just trading compliments now

You guys have seen blade runner , right?

Cause it's the same shit

I'm seeing a lot of Miller/Darrow's Hard Boiled in this.

Caprica did it well!

Blade Runner had a lot more going for it than wondering who was/wasn't a synthetic iPods or whatever

I want them to show the pre-Wild Bill android and it's Chappie

Caprica was fun as I recall. How come people who imbue synthetic life with consciousness always seem to smoke btw?

noir affectation + forbidden habit that is still relatable

if it didn't smell horrible, stain everything, make you look like a melted candle and cause long-term health problems, it'd be great

all things that replicants don't care about and fictional cigarettes don't cause

They fixed all that stuff in the future

Notice we haven't see anyone vaping

The Einger: Our Craziest ‘Westworld’ Theories

I like Jason Concepcion's theory that the characters are modeled on Bartle's MUD player taxonomy. But I thought you guys would appreciate this:

Alison Herman: My craziest, most out-there Westworld theory is that … I refuse to have a Westworld theory. I do not believe there is anything to theorize about. What we see is genuinely what we get. Take that, Reddit!

Hear me out: Like so many lab rats, we’ve been trained to associate Nolan projects with batshit-crazy reveals. Add in J.J. “I Gave a TED Talk About How Much I Like Mysteries” Abrams and you’ve got a rock-solid case for the logic that most of the internet, including this question, is following, i.e., that something big is coming down the pipeline, and it’s our job to find out what it is. But what if Abrams and Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy Nolan are one step ahead of us? What if they’ve gone so far into twist territory that they’ve come out the other side? What if the twist is that there is no twist, and the most out-there speculation you can make is that there is no speculation to make?

they only dropped episode 2 early because of the debate, I guess

was kind of hoping I could watch it earlier this weekend

Man, Elsie (the lady host-technician) really hates her, uh, work environment

The first time they shot that scene, instead of explaining what the bicameral theory of the mind is, Jeffrey Wright just belched. Should've stuck with the first take.

if I wrote this: Anthony Hopkins is the robot created by Arnold, Arnold is hiding in the park and the map is his

Let it be said that I kind of want to give the third episode a hug for blowing up most of my hypotheses and making me just look forward to whatever happens next. Damn the guns of Chekhov! I'm kind of genuinely worried about a couple of these people now!

Anthony Hopkins' character streamed bone tomahawk

~on TCM, of course~

OK goddamnit, I'm in for the season.

$40,000 a day huh?

lol Sufjan

There's still been no real anchoring time evident has there? I mean only times have been relative. Ed Harris storyline already being 30 years old, Anthony Hopkins having set the park up a certain amount of time ago. So could be 30 years or upwards away from now, just needs a time line where life like seeming androids are invented and computer memory has somewhat advanced.

Otherwise main points of technology are that hand held device related to the office landscape.

So still wonderig when it is actually set, though not sure how relevant to the story that is