The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal - US elections 2016: the october surprises

fun vid:

https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/785316612673011712

The guy I listen to in the car out of Buffalo will be absolutely unbearable tomorrow. That's the Trump he loves--he goes on and on about how spineless Romney and McCain were about not attacking Obama, how Republicans always roll over, etc. He probably broke down and cried (joy) when Trump said "You'd be in jail." And he'll love Trump whining to the moderators. That first half-hour would be as cathartic to him as Gingrich turning on John King four years ago was to that audience.

I hate Donald Trump.

https://twitter.com/FiveThirtyEight/status/785314624887545856

57-34 for Clinton in the CNN poll.

Hey, Kellyanne Conway was resurfaced.

Balloon Juice front pager working for free does a way better job than Andrew Sullivan, meritocracy in fine form as usual

Trump lost his goddamned mind in this debate. Nobody in a western democracy threatens to jail their opponent on live TV. This guy wants to be Vladimir Putin. I literally cannot believe that reporters will talk about fine details of this or that exchange when an American candidate for President went gibbering insane in front of the country. Folks honestly need to contact your media outlets and complain every time someone acts like this is remotely normal behavior.

https://www.balloon-juice.com/2016/10/09/tonights-big-take-home/

Ben Smith
‏@BuzzFeedBen

In the spin room, Nigel Farrage just compared Trump to a "silverback gorilla." "He dominated her."

8:39 PM - 9 Oct 2016

Wait so Phil D. is the point of that tweet that 538 literally can't interpret their own figures properly anymore?

538 Tweet: I would definitely call my band the Fleeting Interjections.

mediocre yet dangerous men: barely stumbling over lowered bars since forever

https://twitter.com/alexburnsnyt/status/785324843147337728

I genuinely do not understand how ANYONE who was not already firmly in Trump's corner thought that he did well tonight. That was one of the most mortifying displays I've ever witnessed in any context. I guess if you're suggesting that he did well because he didn't fully succumb to the public nervous breakdown he's been flirting with, I'll grant you that much.

And I totally understand anyone who felt triggered by his behavior. I honestly thought he was in a desperate enough place that he might physically assault Clinton at some point. Major, major kudos to her in dealing with that uncaged ape with aplomb.

Guys?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/flashback-donald-trump-called-bill-clintons-accusers-terrible/story?id=42686582&cid=clicksource_4380645_3_three_posts_vert_image

Scariest line of the night by far was Trump saying "I didn’t think I was going to say this, but I’m going to say it..." He'd already brought up Bill and Juanita Broderick and the 12-year-old at that point--had literally no idea where he was going to go next. (That's when he brought up jail time.)

Sorry if that was already posted

donald trump is frank yart y'all

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuXwuQ3XgAIFKvS.jpg

hart lol

in tonight's debate, he reminded the american public that he is more than simply a dangerous sexual predator. he showed that, in addition, he is unable to string two coherent sentences together. so yeah. big win.

I hear the focus group on CNN was also largely Hillary?

but yeah, this race is still over, we have to stomach the last month.

genuinely do not understand how ANYONE who was not already firmly in Trump's corner thought that he did well tonight.

that's just it. i don't actually believe those folks (despite their protestations to the contrary) thought he did too great in the first one. they genuinely think he did this time. doesn't matter. dude's done.

i don't think he will win but i think the fact that people on tv were discussing him as if he were a candidate again rather than a pariah was deeply troubling.

to caek upthread, that's what I thought - once you're hitting Hillary's polling numbers, kinda hard to get much higher, so not surprised that the numbers did or didn't do what they did tonight.

xpost yes, I agree, but what are you gonna do - that everybody falls for the strategy of diminished expectations like trained apes time and again just shows the GOP and their voters are largely dum-dums

Honestly, I think a lot of these people are delirious after talking about pussy all weekend.

it was so weird. one minute trump says clinton has "tremendous hatred in her heart" and is creepily looming over her, the next a smiling kellyanne conway tells chris matthews that trump "really spoke to the frustrations of voters tonight" and faced only a few mild objections. they cut to chuck todd who said that she was a "lovely person"

Like, I'm really glad Anderson Cooper pressed him for a non-flimsy answer on whether or not he's ever done the things he was talking about on the bus, because we all know he has and it's just a matter of time until it's proven.

One thing I don't understand is why Clinton wasn't much more aggressive about all the Republican defections the past couple of days. She mentioned it in passing, and defensively. Why didn't she ask him point-blank why that was happening?

cable news needs to be buried at yucca mountain

well on the bright side, only one more of these pieces of moribund, fetid theatre, then we vote and move on with our lives

^ otm

not surprisingly, they are absolutely thrilled with his performance over at The_Donald

for real. that OLD POST OFFICE rant was just garbled nonsense. how can anyone hear that kinda stuff and take him seriously?

just to remind everyone, there is no possible way Trump can lose this election unless there is massive voter fraud, verging into the territory of seven or eight million fraudulent votes cast, given how badly he's trailing in the opinion polls. this is what we're confronting in this piece of human horseshit.

https://twitter.com/reimamy/status/785297823914790913

Amy R
‏@reimamy

@carrieffisher tell me something about that sniffle...coke head or no?

6:56 PM - 9 Oct 2016
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Carrie Fisher ‏@carrieffisher 2h2 hours ago

@reimamy I'm an expert & ABSOLUTELY

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the entire cnn panel cannot BELIEVE how much of a total asshole lewandowski is

really glad Anderson Cooper pressed him for a non-flimsy answer on whether or not he's ever done the things he was talking about on the bus, because we all know he has and it's just a matter of time until it's proven.

^^^^^^^^ THIS

not surprisingly, they are absolutely thrilled with his performance over at The_Donald

that is seriously becoming one of the creepiest places in the world right now.

it's not even in the top 100 creepiest places on Reddit

still p creepy tho

also, as someone on twitter observed w/r/t the whole disagreeing with pence thing: did trump not actually watch or pay attention during the vp debates? i myself did not watch them, but isn't that when pence laid out his thoughts on syria? that's got to be pretty galling

one of my friends (a sweet mother of six in her mid-40s who is very not political but has started speaking out against Trump now) posted a short sentence criticizing him and is getting talked down to by three men in response, almost minutes later.

which is why all along, I haven't been able to understand people that say "relax, he won't be able to pass most of his ridiculous legislation". maybe not, but him being in the White House would just encourage more of this bullying, anti-intellectual, xenophobic, sexist behavior among the general population, and that has been what has scared me from Day 1.

Came to post about Lewandowski too--unbearable.

he's a fuckstain. is it possible to be affiliated with Trump and come across as any kind of decent human being, though? when you have the taint of Trump....nope, sorry, sentence over.

q: you were heard casually talking about sexually abusing any beautiful woman who crosses your path. what say you?
a: sorry, you weren't meant to hear that. just some intra-dbag chat there. now here are some women that say my OPPONENT's husband sexually abused THEM. Also, I will SNEAK ATTACK ISIS BAM goodnite no more terrorism.

idiots: idk maybe this trump guy is alright

emails are just words but Trump seemed pretty worked up about them

literally cannot process a single word lewandowski says b/c only message coming across is wow this guy's an asshole

the one thing I have to remind myself is that most people are rational enough to see him as a really big dumbshit, but it's just that those that lionize him make a lot of noise.

i cant imagine how awful it would be to have an actual, in-an-intimate-relationship argument with trump. makes my skin crawl

trump vibes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ks9MJZm1Lk