The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal - US elections 2016: the october surprises

I imagine more of a Neverland ranch sitch

what happens when he loses? like everything else it is never his fault, so it's probably the GOP establishment who stabbed him in the back who did it.

also realize trump and most of his closest advisors are living in a conspiracy media bubble where the explanation for what's happening right now is hypocrisy because the mainstream media is attacking him and ignoring the "bill and hillary actually abused women" story that they believe is true

i mean they might not've had it before February when Jeb dropped out. that the Bushes orchestrated this for revenge is p plausible imo

xp: I'm looking at the guardhouses on the long drive on StreetView.

Republican candidates still thought Trump would irrevocably offend his own supporters when Jeb! dropped out, IIRC.

the bit about queens seemed a touch sniffy

Walker's Point. I've biked past there. Looks pretty chill actually - a good-sized vacation house for a large extended family, with some mostly normal-sized outbuildings. No gargoyles, parapets, anti-aircraft guns, dungeons, or Cheney-designed torture chambers. (That one can see, anyway.)

daria-g:

what happens when he loses? like everything else it is never his fault, so it's probably the GOP establishment who stabbed him in the back who did it.

That storyline is already under construction.

It used to gall me; I wanted conservatives to not simply lose, but to know that they lost because their ideas are not general-election winners any more.

Now I am deciding that I don't care. Let the GOP civil war continue; let both sides believe themselves to be the true guardians of freedom. The squabble keeps them out of national power, and can potentially complicate every downballot race as well.

Seems a reasonably palatable way to pass the time until the next census and redistricting, at which point the angry white old guy demographic is either changed or swamped out of prominence.

the 'piece of ass' comment re: Ivanka... this probably would have been enough to sink him earlier this week, right? how much damage is it even going to do at this point? I dream of a massive electoral college blowout

at least two more leaks to come - one worse than this one? i don't think massive electoral college blowout is unreasonable

how dumb are these trumpist twitter guys arguing that real voters don't care and trump can still win? trump has no money and no field organization and no strategy and no GOTV

clemenza, why are you watching CNN

Primarily by default--nowhere else to keep up--but I'm not a CNN hater. People I like, people I can't stand, no different than anything else.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-tumultuous-day-in-the-life-of-a-republican-senate-candidate/2016/10/08/7ba08728-8d8c-11e6-bf8a-3d26847eeed4_story.html

“I’m a woman, and I don’t think a woman should be president,” said Yvonne Cline, 59.

"at least two more leaks to come - one worse than this one?" wait where did this come from?

I like how the media is calling this out. When Schwarzenegger was running for governor, his participation in a gangbang didn't get traction, with reporters shrugging it off by assuming it was consensual. Ivana's description of Trump forcing sex on her against a wall didn't get traction, despite the Trump campaign's response being that marital rape didn't exist in the 80s.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/10/08/hoo-boy-two-more-major-antitrump-oppo-drops-coming-n2229679 xp

can't wait. i imagine one might be the child rape charge which hasn't exactly been hidden but has had zero mainstream news. though there was some change in this the other day; maybe they found something that lent it more credibility than it had before

arts and crafts THIS GUY (daria-g) wrote this on thread I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread on board I Love Everything on Feb 27, 2016

somehow none of the rival GOP campaigns looked into any of this? malpractice
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/donald-trump-said-a-lot-of-gross-things-about-women-on-howar

arts and crafts THIS GUY (daria-g) wrote this on thread I will keep.. on Feb 27, 2016

it's crazy to me that the rival GOP campaigns have hardly attacked him at all so far, everyone just assuming he'd go away by now i suppose. stuff like the crass, extremely offensive audio clips from the stern show have to be barely scratching the surface of the available damaging material

arts and crafts THIS GUY (daria-g) wrote this on thread Il Douché and His Discontents.. on Mar 7, 2016

bullying a woman face to face in a debate is still a bad look even for trump (he just waits until later on twitter or whatever because he has some kind of psychological issue where he can't let anything go without responding with some stupid tirade)

arts and crafts THIS GUY (daria-g) wrote this on thread Il Douché.. on Mar 8, 2016

this guy is messed up psychologically

like seriously why isn't this attack #1? he's unstable. he has some kind of personality disorder.

arts and crafts THIS GUY (daria-g) wrote this on thread Il Douché.. on Mar 16, 2016

don't be scared, organize

trump has said and done enough already to have by far the most negative approval ratings of all the candidates (and it's not even close) and the democrats haven't even BEGUN to drop oppo research on him

all the audio of him saying hateful and degrading things about women

What I said was exactly correct!! I should be a newscaster because I called it before the news!!!

Trump retweeted juanita broaddrick

daria-g has been otm in this thread

he's going to go desperate and hard tomorrow night. hillary is probably preparing for every possible eventuality, or should be.

She could own him so hard by directly answering every audience question and never looking at him or acknowledging he's the candidate

heheh i had to go back through my old posts because all year my mother as usual has been fretting about the election and i could swear i told her over and over, mom, don't worry, there is a YUGE amount of damaging trump material that is going to be released once they've nominated him

your mom and my mom (and everyone's mom) should have had a worry-off, i fielded so many calls from mine and i had to talk her down a few times.

cnn now playing more howard stern clips that buzzfeed (now kfile) andrew and his team dug up

WHY DID NO REPUBLICANS LOOK INTO THIS BEFORE

it's not like howard stern is an obscure program

to be fair my mother excessive worrying about this election partially caused by living in trump country

to be fair my mother excessive worrying about this election partially caused by living in trump country

tbf, the very fact that there is such a place as "trump country" should worry all of us.

cnn chyron right this moment:

TRUMP TO STERN: IT'S OK TO CALL IVANKA A "PIECE OF A**"

no one could have predicted researchers might find this

does juanita broaddrick have any credibility whatsoever? asking seriously.

CNN chyron the real MVP

jfc

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trump-tower-the-defiant-and-isolated-republican-nominee/2016/10/08/0b3575a0-8d8e-11e6-bf8a-3d26847eeed4_story.html?postshare=6501475970171767&tid=ss_tw

agree that daria-g has been bringing the wisdom

not a funny topic, granted, but I confess I chuckled at this, hope it works

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14502906_10153991486357253_7094187247055615689_n.jpg?oh=97f8107b995ed6db987a237c1dc5d2e7&oe=58689B21

Some of Trump’s allies inside and outside the campaign wondered why he had apologized rather than own his past and punch back, a strategy that helped him survive previous controversies.

“Why didn’t he double down? If the apology was intended to stem the flow of dissent, to show that he’s sorry for what he’s said and done . . . that’s not what took place,” said one Trump friend who is close to the campaign and spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak candidly.

Michael Caputo, a former Trump campaign adviser, said he was encouraging the Trump team to immediately make an issue of former president Bill Clinton’s womanizing past and “allegations of sexual crimes.”

“In order to blunt this really bad story — and make no mistake, this is DEFCON One — they need to pull the Clintons into the same mire where Clinton has dumped him, because in fact they do exist there,” Caputo said. “They’ve got to go nuclear. That’s all they have left.”

does juanita broaddrick have any credibility whatsoever?

no

also as far as trump plans to attack hillary for blaming/shaming women who bill had affairs with or was alleged to.. usually I don't trust blanket statements about what "the voters" think but in this case don't most of "the voters" think OF COURSE SHE WASN'T NICE TO BILL'S OTHER WOMEN WTF

Even as Trump’s friends offered encouragement, some were buzzing behind his back about the long-shot notion of a ticket that no longer included him. Several of the candidate’s allies were discussing a Pence-Carson ticket, according to one person close to Trump.

it's as if some men have never heard what their wives had to say about the women they cheated on them with.

my mom's been fine, but my dad has not. imagine all the worrying of a mother plus the "your reassurances are self-evidently unreal i have a keen grasp on the race because television" of a father

juanita broaddrick wasn't an affair though, it's an accused rape. I agree it does nothing to damage Hilary. She could easily just divorce his ass the second she's elected. But I do tire of these things coming up and I'm never sure what to make of them because investigating them is just going into a fucking hole of shit

She could easily just divorce his ass the second she's elected.

lol this would be the peak of our republic

i think my parents have mostly trusted my perspective on the race tho once or twice i was not certain and told them "i still think she'll win but i don't think it's impossible that she loses." now i feel like it's impossible. like when you're watching a sports game and it's in the final quarter and the score is really lopsided - it's safe.

xp wait until they move in to the white house so she can dump his shit on pennsylvania avenue

This feels like a football game where one team is ahead by a field goal and on the next two possessions the other QB throws pick-sixes on the first play, and both times gets unsportsmanlike conduct penalties for yelling at the refs about non-existent holding penalties.

it would be hysterical if they divorced. classic. house of cards

broaddrick story has a ton of problems not least that she testified that it was consensual and has spent the years since posting vince foster conspiracy theories to her twitter account. but even were it believable - and probably as decent human beings we should take her accusation seriously - the assertion she makes that hillary bullied her into silence is completely unbelievable. how would this even go down?

She came directly to me as soon as she hit the door. I had been there only a few minutes, I only wanted to make an appearance and leave. She caught me and took my hand and said: “I am so happy to meet you. I want you to know that we appreciate everything you do for Bill.” I started to turn away and she held onto my hand and reiterated her phrase — looking less friendly and repeated her statement — “Everything you do for Bill.” I said nothing. She wasn’t letting me get away until she made her point. She talked low, the smile faded on the second thank you. I just released her hand from mine and left the gathering.

so bill raped her and then went home and told his wife about it and they decided it would be a good idea for hillary to go threaten her to keep it hush-hush?

you have to believe HRC really is Angela Lansbury:

https://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/the-manchurian-candidate.jpg

This isn't bad: http://www.vox.com/2016/1/6/10722580/bill-clinton-juanita-broaddrick

i mean, without exaggeration, that's what people believe

doesn't help that Hillary dresses like Lansbury.

i also can't believe i am really reading a vox explainer but here we are

tbh about brodderick, we don't know and nothing can be proven, i guess is where it stands

not sure how you make the case that we go from that to "it's hillary's fault" but i suppose it helps with those who think everything is hillary's fault

Many xps Costa remains a wizard at getting people who should know better to basically tell him what's going on moments after it happens.