The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal - US elections 2016: the october surprises

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I'm not 59 anymore.(xp)

(SNIFFING AND INDISTINCT SOBBING) (Tom D.), Saturday, 8 October 2016 19:39 (seven years ago) link

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I am very sorry to inform the GOP that despite their protests, they must carry this candidate to term

savvinesslessness (map), Saturday, 8 October 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link

re: the rap lyric discussion, I've now started to see it too. the 'funny' thing being that both Rick Ross and Too $hort got eviscerated in the mainstream and hip-hop press for saying things like what Trump said. it isn't like rapey lyrics get a free pass (albeit, admittedly, some very vile, sexist shit does get excused in rap and that's a valid convo, but point being saying rapey stuff in hip-hop doesn't go unnoticed).

Neanderthal, Saturday, 8 October 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link

cc soto

https://twitter.com/JRBoh/status/784837439336640512

― 𝔠𝔞ð”Ēð”Ļ (caek), S

I'm not endorsing Trump.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 October 2016 19:44 (seven years ago) link

(Not new though, but presented as such because of last night?) xp

the tightening is plateauing (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 8 October 2016 19:44 (seven years ago) link

not new comments, it says "newly uncovered", so I don't know if that means 'unaired' or 'we just looked for the first time'

Neanderthal, Saturday, 8 October 2016 19:48 (seven years ago) link

Cruz's Trump endorsement is looking better all the time.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 8 October 2016 19:49 (seven years ago) link

afaict there are no extant, established procedures for expelling a candidate from the party nomination - only ones for if he dies, takes ill or drops out of his own volition. he ain't dropping out, and the fried chicken hasn't killed him yet

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Saturday, 8 October 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link

i will never understand why cruz ended up endorsing him, weeks after the convention

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Saturday, 8 October 2016 19:51 (seven years ago) link

btw the only correct answer to the question "can I call your daughter a piece of ass" is five fingers to the face

Neanderthal, Saturday, 8 October 2016 19:51 (seven years ago) link

xp Because Ted needed to tamp down all those claims that he's a genius.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 8 October 2016 19:52 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Xaw7Jdm.png

𝔠𝔞ð”Ēð”Ļ (caek), Saturday, 8 October 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link

re: the rap lyric discussion, I've now started to see it too. the 'funny' thing being that both Rick Ross and Too $hort got eviscerated in the mainstream and hip-hop press for saying things like what Trump said. it isn't like rapey lyrics get a free pass (albeit, admittedly, some very vile, sexist shit does get excused in rap and that's a valid convo, but point being saying rapey stuff in hip-hop doesn't go unnoticed).

― Neanderthal

freddie gibbs for president

fat fingered algorithm (rushomancy), Saturday, 8 October 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link

Lol @ paul ryans evasiveness

Treeship, Saturday, 8 October 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link

"This is not what we are here to talk about"

Treeship, Saturday, 8 October 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link

will probably be several "SWEEP THE LEG" posters at tomorrow's debate

Neanderthal, Saturday, 8 October 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link

A third rate talking head of the kind that populate FOX News on a late Saturday afternoon said what Trump said has "no comparison" compared to Bill Clinton and Juanita Broaddrick and FDR and Missy Le Hand.

What did FDR do to Missy besides work her into a stroke?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 October 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link

Broaddrick testified under oath that they had a consensual relationship. Ivana testified that they didn't.

Mordy, Saturday, 8 October 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link

donald trump is just reflecting reality. he's the white CNN.

scott seward, Saturday, 8 October 2016 20:31 (seven years ago) link

no wai

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 8 October 2016 20:38 (seven years ago) link

When you've lost Tic Tac...

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 8 October 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link

he's not doing well w/the candy demographic

self-clowning cozen of ILX (cozen), Saturday, 8 October 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

has Blo Pop made a statement yet

Neanderthal, Saturday, 8 October 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link

All Pence events have been removed from the Trump website.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (čŠĪčĻģäūŪčūą), Saturday, 8 October 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link

Jeez

Treeship, Saturday, 8 October 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link

Such a slimeball hypocrite. Everyone always knew Trump talked like this. The Howard Stern tapes were around during the primaries.

Treeship, Saturday, 8 October 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

re: Pence events. Wau. If Pence pulls out that would be amazeballs.

I didn't think Trompe would be viable as a general-election candidate with the spectacle of a contested convention in his rear-view mirror. While it wasn't contested, it was contentious (and dispiritingly disorganized). Not cripplingly so.

If his running mate were to leave the ticket (or even be seen to be threatening to leave), that would be zomg-level and epic. His candidacy would survive - too much of the base as already made it clear they want him and no one else.

But how would he maintain that his presidency would be marked by the best hiring, truly the best, of the greatest people?

"Hi, I'm Donald J. Trump. I'm on my third wife, my fifth campaign manager, and my third-choice running mate! Vote for me because of my good judgment and excellent people skills!"

burqini kill (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link

plz plz plz VP giuliani

Mordy, Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link

VP mike tyson

Treeship, Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link

Mccain withdraws endorsement

Treeship, Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:08 (seven years ago) link

tbf, no one in the GOP leadership knew how to proceed once the #NeverTrump 'movement' fizzled so badly. otoh, it's impossible to feel sorry for them, since they are the ones who created the GOP in its current form and trump's nomination is just a YUGE chicken that came home to roost and has shit all over their deplorable party.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:08 (seven years ago) link

This is a very strange moment. Many or most Trump voters are super pissed at the various republicans who have spoken out against him. This is very quickly shaping up as a major break between the two sides of the party. Any move to replace Trump would probably lead to utter chaos.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link

If Pence does quit, it will be a bigger fiasco than McGovern/Eagleton.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link

look on the bright side: Trump is an American hero for unintentionally decimating the GOP as we knew it.

flappy bird, Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link

I think this is already historicallt fiascotrophic

Treeship, Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link

mccain is a mess but i'm still happy to see him finally unendorse

Mordy, Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link

Xp

Treeship, Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link

i'm sure trump's preparations for the debate tomorrow are going very smoothly right now

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link

He's going to be a maniac tomorrow and the whole event will be a national disgrace. I feel depressed about the sordidness of all this.

Treeship, Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link

look on the bright side: Trump is an American hero for unintentionally decimating the GOP as we knew it.

on the other hand, it has also had the effect of making assholes like mike pence seem like relatively reasonable people. the thought of 2020 makes me want to rip my eyeballs out but it could be challenging for democrats

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link

look on the bright side: Trump is an American hero for unintentionally decimating the GOP as we knew it.

― flappy bird, Saturday, October 8, 2016 11:11 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I have little confidence that whatever new factions or parties growing out of the GOP's ashes will be better than the GOP

Xp

the tightening is plateauing (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link

Just now catching up but agree with the point mentioned up thread:

This is the equiv to the Hannibal Buress line that wound up finally collapsing Cosby after years of evidence and accusations couldn't, right? This one sorta smallish thing from a very different context just separate enough to reverberate even louder and by its difference, add to the existing rumbling and just shake the whole edifice apart

(rocketcat) ðŸš€ðŸą 👑🐟 (kingfish), Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link

It will be better. The ppl who mostly support the red/blue "culture war" narrative are old, so there will be less of them with each new cycle.

Treeship, Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link

As tempting as it is to imagine the GOP's control of Congress crumbling like a sugar cube dropped into boiling water, I expect there will be no essential changes to the political script we've seen playing out since 1994, just a couple of minor tweaks to get the noise machine tuned up and pointed at HRC. It should be in place and functioning smoothly even before she takes the oath.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link

But they will not have the coherency of the GOP machine to deliver the guaranteed c.35% either.

And the 2020 challenger is likely to have lost to trump this year. That's a serious stick to have in your hand as president Clinton.

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/guypbenson/status/784863254149369856

aint no michael-jackson-popcorn.gif large enough right now

frogbs, Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link

It all comes down to whether she has the votes in Congress or not.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link

the timing on this w/ the hurricane was good

savvinesslessness (map), Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link


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