The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal - US elections 2016: the october surprises

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xp eazy - that doesn't look like "evidence", that looks like political theater. i've heard that word on the street is that this statement is mostly motivated by democrats in congress or w/e who think that a strong anti-russian stance will provide some political advantage.

i don't think they're right. who's going to listen to the conclusions the us intelligence services have reached based on undisclosed information? the american left, after us intelligence's claim that iraq possessed wmds? the american right, after us intelligence's declining to recommend clinton's indictment? russia, whose future is significantly staked on trump somehow winning this election?

fat fingered algorithm (rushomancy), Saturday, 8 October 2016 13:23 (seven years ago) link

The most striking thing about the HRC speeches for me is that she seems to be further left on health care than I thought she was. "Bias against people who have led successful and/or complicated lives" is lol though.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Saturday, 8 October 2016 13:28 (seven years ago) link

a lot of this stuff is like that leak where she's sympathizing w/ hard luck millennials where in context it's fine or even sympathetic but you can pull context-free quotes that look bad on their own - which is the reason i assumed she didn't want to leak them in the first place.

Mordy, Saturday, 8 October 2016 13:29 (seven years ago) link

leak release

Mordy, Saturday, 8 October 2016 13:30 (seven years ago) link

lol wow: https://twitter.com/DavMicRot/status/784608760987779072

Neanderthal, Saturday, 8 October 2016 13:38 (seven years ago) link

lord if only I'd thrown in money when Hillary sunk that one week

Neanderthal, Saturday, 8 October 2016 13:38 (seven years ago) link

These are terrible song lyrics.

https://twitter.com/ingrahamangle/status/784741614291865600

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 8 October 2016 13:43 (seven years ago) link

WHY are they calling these "lewd comments" and not "bragging about assaulting women"

Treeship, Saturday, 8 October 2016 13:57 (seven years ago) link

"they" = tv pundits mostly

Treeship, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:00 (seven years ago) link

These are terrible song lyrics.

https://twitter.com/ingrahamangle/status/784741614291865600

โ€• Ned Raggett

Fine by me

fat fingered algorithm (rushomancy), Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:10 (seven years ago) link

lol @ Ingraham, as if this is the only disqualifying thing Trump has done in the last 12+ months and it is just coming out now to ruin his immaculate campaign.

Lifezette lols

Neanderthal, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:14 (seven years ago) link

First they came for the sex perverts
And I let them
Because I'm a decent human being

Neanderthal, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:15 (seven years ago) link

What lesson will the GOP learn from this? Family values religious constitutional conservatism seems like the opposite of trump, so maybe they go there? In which case maybe Hillary could win 2020 too.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:17 (seven years ago) link

I'm waiting for a Trump surrogate to seize on the line "I moved on her and I failed--I'll admit it" and try to make the case that the video shows a very human Trump, humbled, vulnerable, taking ownership of his actions, realistic about his limitations, not the imperious blowhard he's been caricatured as. More presidential.

clemenza, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link

"A lot of people have denigrated our campaign, but this response proves Trump acts very President when he's caught being rapey or doing illegal shit. And isn't that what you want in the White House - a guy who says "I'm sorry" meekly with his pants down?"

Neanderthal, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:22 (seven years ago) link

btw, how mortified is Nancy O'Dell right now? Or maybe she's popping the cork on some champagne.

โ’นโ“ก. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:22 (seven years ago) link

"shoulda thought something was amiss when he took me to Seaman's Furniture"

Neanderthal, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link

The all-to-human inability to open the door to a motorcoach.

otm in the rain (Eazy), Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link

kinda surprised nobody has seized on the "don't most of you Democrats listen to rap? they say way worse" angle

Neanderthal, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:27 (seven years ago) link

R-Ala.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:27 (seven years ago) link

haha daaaaaaaaamn

Neanderthal, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link

he's losing the most immobile of the immobile

Neanderthal, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link

New pundit on msnbc "gets it" and compared Trump to Cosby. Good -- hopefully that association will stick.

Treeship, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:30 (seven years ago) link

Hillary winning is jusy the beginning, if this gets more out of hand -- outtakes from the apprentice etc -- we should sed a blowout up and down the ticket.

Treeship, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:31 (seven years ago) link

oh my god how many other poor republicans are stuck channeling Ro-Man like Roby is right now. "I must- but I cannot!"

fat fingered algorithm (rushomancy), Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link

like do they really think Trump stepping aside would suddenly lead to better results, or is it just that they'd rather lose with someone more respectable? what's gonna make the low-info voters suddenly want to go with the new guy that they barely know anything about?

Neanderthal, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:34 (seven years ago) link

Trump not being able to open the door was total Eoin Mclove (can't find a Youtube clip soz)

kinder, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link

kinda surprised nobody has seized on the "don't most of you Democrats listen to rap? they say way worse" angle

โ€• Neanderthal, Saturday, October 8, 2016 9:27 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i've already seen it a few times on social media

serge thoroughgoods (will), Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:42 (seven years ago) link

I think its sort of weird this sexual harassment stuff is just getting attention now when it's been known for so long. Dont like conspiracy theories but it almost seems like some of the networks knew about this and sat on it bc the horror show of the trump campaign was good for ratings.

Treeship, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:45 (seven years ago) link

Neither Trump nor Pence is going to leave the ticket lol @ this suggestion

ฮŸแฝ–ฯ„ฮนฯ‚, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:47 (seven years ago) link

Or maybe networks and voters alike just realized that, in october, it wasnt funny anymore and so decided to take a hateful statement of his seriously for once

Treeship, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:48 (seven years ago) link

It's too late anyway, ballots have been printed. NBC prob sat on tape for October surprise

flappy bird, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link

no but it's a measure of how done this is that someone in alabama is running away from him

the NRO ppl are talking about being #nevertrump in the past tense

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link

Trump/Pence urgently blowing up Ozymandias's cell right now

Neanderthal, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link

Rs who have called on Trump to quit:

Rob Engstrom
Mike Coffman
Jon Huntsman
Chris Stewart
George Pataki
Barbara Comstock
Mike Lee
Ben Sasse

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:51 (seven years ago) link

other UT politicians too

Mordy, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:51 (seven years ago) link

which is notable because in the past when there's been "dropout" noise, it's often been muted, one person tops. never so unified and swift.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:52 (seven years ago) link

the craziest thing is that none of what happened yesterday has been reflected in the polls yet

Mordy, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:52 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/784767399442653184

"Certainly has been an interesting 24 hours!"

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:52 (seven years ago) link

lol what a world eh donald!! if you can't laugh what can you do?!

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:52 (seven years ago) link

lol ahh being flippant, why not when you've already lost I guess

Neanderthal, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:53 (seven years ago) link

I kept waiting for one of the poll aggregators to say "we're suspending further forecasts cos this shit is done" last night

Neanderthal, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:53 (seven years ago) link

D'oh

ฮŸแฝ–ฯ„ฮนฯ‚, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link

Lol that tweet. What a shithead.

Treeship, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link

ppppolls is my guess for the first one to say this is done. they're the one that does polls like this

https://twitter.com/IanSams/status/784384963567316992

their twitter account got pretty strident for a pollster last night, e.g.

https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/784565322397446144
https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/784569893995806720
https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/784567820688433152
https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/784566406654353408

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:56 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxuYdzs4SS8

Trump a month ago, pleading with his advisors during his two weeks of relative discipline:

"Celebrity Donald, Apprentice Donald, Howard Stern Donald, bawdy Donald..."
"We love that Donald."
"Me too--and he's dying. If Politician Donald walks through that door, he will kill Independent Donald. A Donald divided against itself cannot stand."

Independent Donald has again taken charge.

clemenza, Saturday, 8 October 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link


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