The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal - US elections 2016: the october surprises

"Grab her by the pussy" is the great shadow twin of "Make America Great Again," you can put it on a hat

https://twitter.com/cuffymeh/status/784610543663456257

I'm still worried about some of his base resorting to violence after his inevitable loss. I can't imagine it'd happen on a grand scale, but, idk, the people that vote for this man are like a new entry in the DSM-V

― Neanderthal, Saturday, October 8, 2016 12:35 AM (fifty-nine seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No, they've always been around.

map otm

While watching that "apology" video I kept hearing Mark E Smith growling "hey there fuckface, hey there fuckface"

There have been times over the past year when I wished Trump would like pass away in his sleep or something but I have to admit that I'm starting to see the upside of him living a long life replete with numerous acts of self-immolation.

it would be fucked up if he was replaced at this point and the republicans got to "save face" in the end in some way

these motherfuckers could have distanced themselves from him months ago but they didn't because, as map said, they don't actually care about women or minorities or responsible governance

yeah, if Pence manages to pull a "reasonable Republican" face out of this, fuck him sooooooooo much.

https://twitter.com/jess7bennett/status/784557297657847808

omg scottie telling navarra not to say pussy because it's offensive and navarra blasting her that she finds it offensive now but not when trump said it

can't tell you how may times this election i've heard mark e smith asking who makes the nazis

Pence will call this "regrettable" or some such bullshit.

Haha

Xp

Regrettable. foolish . unfortunate . I don't condone . "Warts"

So does Trump have any events tomorrow? Would be amazing and even more damaging to see him out doing his nofmal rally schrick while all this is caving in. Plus with the crowd on his side, he will absolutely not be able to resist commenting on this in some even stupider way. "So now they're trying to show this tape, this very little and not important tape, and say, Oh! Donald! it's such a bad thing you've said and - because really, folks, it was really nothing and they have, I don't know, they say I maybe said some sentences but now they don't really know, but what is true is that I love women. I love them. And they love me! The women are loving me and this campaign and the polls...." etc etc

god I'd give anything to have heard the call between Ryan and Trump tonight

So does Trump have any events tomorrow?

He was gonna be at a fair in Elkhorn, WI with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker but now Mike Pence is subbing for him

xps to self, like right in the middle of him talking about china or the media or regulations. it's going to happen. even if the first lines of the prepared remarks are another gunpoint apology. his stream of consciousness will take him there.

my bold prediction: things are going to get very ugly in the Sunday debate

i bet trump brings it up early himself, then pivots to attacking bill clinton immediately. And since they've been signaling the bill clinton attack for two whole weeks, Hillary probably has like 5 different prepared answers ready

re debate, hillary is more than prepared for this and it'll probably go like the first debate wherein trump makes an ass of himself and hrc is like shrug. she has been dealing with horrible men her whole life

that "attack bill" shit has to be coming directly from trump, right? A political pro would have be insane to think that re-litigating the impeachment is a good strategy

Trump got gradually agitated that time, he's going to start at high anxiety levels to begin this one. he might try to strangle an audience member at this point

xpost

i remember treesh predicted months ago that bill clinton's affairs would become part of this campaign. good prognostication.

the multiple charges of harassment and sexual assault against Trump have been around this whole cycle, even if most mainstream outlets have generally chosen not to foreground them. I feel it's inevitable that those stories are the major news focus for the next two weeks, right?

The intriguing question for me is just what note HRC will try to strike. She's not especially good at striking the right note, but in this case close will probably be more than good enough, given how badly Trump will perform. There's no way he will come out poised and smooth. He's going to be a total head case right from the start.

thank god for the person who leaked this piece.

yeah, that person is a fucking hero, NBC dithering on this shit is ridiculous

Did we mention that in response to the AP story about Trump sexism on the set of The Apprentice,

"These outlandish, unsubstantiated, and totally false claims fabricated by publicity hungry, opportunistic, disgruntled former employees, have no merit whatsoever," said Hope Hicks, Trump's campaign spokeswoman.

the timing on this release was insanely good. i think it actually dropped just as Matthew was heading out of FLA a bit and obv long before it hits NC.

don't think she used enough adjectives xpost

also the dems have to go hard on that tape still, the apology is for the words used, the tape has him describing his actions. two different things.

actually can you imagine, having this on your hard drive? making the phone call to the washington post? it must have been one exhilarating moment.

you guys don't think it obv came from the clinton campaign?

GQ’s Profile of Hope Hicks Tells Us a Lot About Trump’s View of Women

Hicks, a 27-year-old with no prior political experience, breeds fascination amongst reporters. She found her way to the Donald’s side by way of a P.R. and modeling gig for his daughter Ivanka’s clothing line. An eye-blink later, she’s helping her boss chastise the Pope, smear a female reporter, and avoid all substantive discussion with the press.

Is it faintly chauvinistic to say of Hicks, as one unnamed political spokesperson did in an interview with Nuzzi, that she’s essentially clueless—that “She is going to regret everything she’s said and done” in choosing to work for Trump, “And I don’t think she knows it yet”?

Yeah I figured before this broke he'd be trying his best to stay subdued and maybe say a couple coherent policy statements and it might look like a comeback even if he was just as much of a clueless asshole 80% of the time. But now, this is the encroaching awareness of public humiliation on a grand scale, the grandest, it's beautiful, and there's no way he could maintain the facade of calm for a minute.

also, now if by some miracle he does maintain calm and seems "presidential," it doesn't matter, there's no way that's the story.

since he's a teetotaler he can't rely on the "I have an addiction that makes me act out" line either

this is the encroaching awareness of public humiliation on a grand scale, the grandest, it's beautiful

it is, it is

he is going to bring up juanita broaddrick and tell hillary, point blank, that she is married to a literal rapist. he might try to make it more personal by saying that she "sleeps next to a rapist" or something. all of this will be sanctioned by conway and the other leaders of the trump campaign because dragging the clintons down -- establishing an "equivalency" -- is the only hope they have of avoiding a humiliating electoral blowout

at the debate that is. this is going to get fucked up because trump is a rat and he's cornered.

Nicholas Kristof
3 hrs ·

We've posted my Sunday column online early, because it tells the story of a Trump business partner who recounts how Trump tried to force himself on her--once, in Ivanka's bedroom. Her key quote tells the story: "He name-dropped continuously...when he wasn't groping me." This is the man who may be our next president.

nyti.ms/2dLMFdJ (this is paywalled so I dunno what it says but it's nice to see a pileon)

Him being a teetotaler has got to be bullshit. Dude gives off serious amphetamine vibes. Prob using coke now, too

you guys don't think it obv came from the clinton campaign?

she "sleeps next to a rapist" or something

you can't saw the hillary campaign hasn't had plenty of lead time on coming up with good responses but still i have no idea how she'll react if he says that. will she defend bill? will she just turn it back on donald? will she look hurt? or amused?

idk but the pundits will overfocus on her reaction and it's going to be cruel and horrible

she'll probably say "come on, we all know my husband's an asshole by now" to massive laughter