WestWorld: ...Where nothing can possibly go worng!

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if i didn't know better i'd say the character could be a commentary on the psychosis of trying to find the outer limits or glitches in any game; he's the "x0.5 A presses" guy

goole, Friday, 7 October 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link

yeah, possibly unfortunately crossed with the people on LOST who kept turning over rocks looking for secret maps

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Friday, 7 October 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link

If you'd given me five minutes to come up with my most withering parody of a johnny nolan jarjar abrams joint there's a good chance it would open with a v.o. saying "have you ever questioned your reality"

Har-@-Iago (wins), Friday, 7 October 2016 17:39 (seven years ago) link

yeah it needed some better dialogue for that stuff. playing shrink to 19th century people as a framing method for getting diagnostics on a robot is a fun li'l writing challenge.

i miss milch :(

goole, Friday, 7 October 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link

had my issues with the pilot but crazy old dad robot quoting shakespeare and freaking out was genuinely unsettling/good though

Number None, Friday, 7 October 2016 23:40 (seven years ago) link

whoever that guy was he's a pretty good actor.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 October 2016 00:24 (seven years ago) link

When they said he was quoting from his old modules I started hoping that at some point a cowboy will glitch and start screaming about an incoming asteroid field/orc horde, loads of AI prostitutes freaking out wondering what orcs are

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link

Nice to know I'm finally getting to see a big-budget show with a soundtrack inspired by Richard Cheese & the Moog Cookbook

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Monday, 10 October 2016 01:13 (seven years ago) link

LOL at the old-timey Radiohead. Second episode better.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 10 October 2016 10:59 (seven years ago) link

Is there a background database around that says when this is set and how many Worlds there are or anything.
Currently having to skip back to see how the Roman Polanski guy apparently steps through a door from the resort (presumably real) world onto a moving train.

Stevolende, Monday, 10 October 2016 11:35 (seven years ago) link

Interesting move to introduce the (human) point of entry / audience surrogate, if that's what he is, in ep 2. Also unexpected that he's a McPoyle

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 10 October 2016 13:12 (seven years ago) link

I'm really enjoying this so far. Most of the puzzle-box shows since Lost have too sloppy or self-conscious about their mysteries, but this was fun. The Ed Harris sequences in the 2nd episode were all really gripping. And it's glossy and distracting enough to ignore how boring the dialogue has been so far.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 10 October 2016 13:42 (seven years ago) link

i need to try this more seriously but even a glancing attempt suggested this is another sexploitation heavy series and i am fucking tired of this shit.

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Monday, 10 October 2016 14:06 (seven years ago) link

leigh alexander had some good tweets about his as a pretty brilliant critique of gamers and video games

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 October 2016 14:10 (seven years ago) link

for once I want to skip all the analysis and I'm just curious about this new story that Hopkins's character has created

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Monday, 10 October 2016 14:25 (seven years ago) link

w/r/t sexploitation: i read an article with the writers/producers where they made it pretty clear that an interrogation of exploitative violence (sexual and otherwise) is very much the whole point. might end up being a case of having their cake and eating it too, but i'm hoping that they take it seriously

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 10 October 2016 14:30 (seven years ago) link

Currently having to skip back to see how the Roman Polanski guy apparently steps through a door from the resort (presumably real) world onto a moving train.

i'm not entirely sure about it yet, but i'm thinking that westworld is VR and by the time he was in the wardrobe he was already in the virtual world

bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Monday, 10 October 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link

ed harris's character's quest is apparently not to break the fourth wall of westworld but some sort of deeply-hidden storyline that was scripted but nearly impossible to do?

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Monday, 10 October 2016 14:47 (seven years ago) link

Interesting move to introduce the (human) point of entry / audience surrogate, if that's what he is, in ep 2. Also unexpected that he's a McPoyle

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 10 October 2016 14:12 Bookmark

v disappointed he didnt meet the android pouring milk everywhere

r|t|c, Monday, 10 October 2016 15:33 (seven years ago) link

[SPOILERS] episode 3 trailer looks fire though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPKGXgS3Fl8

r|t|c, Monday, 10 October 2016 15:35 (seven years ago) link

regardless that they making truman show guy who also looks like robocop do it, i literally cannot deal with the dharma initiative scalp map horseshit every synapse in my brain is having nam flashbacks

r|t|c, Monday, 10 October 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link

jeffrey wright bedroom twist was bad

r|t|c, Monday, 10 October 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link

argh harris is the man in black too i forgot

r|t|c, Monday, 10 October 2016 15:51 (seven years ago) link

I'm glad someone else thinks Ed Harris is partially channeling Peter Weller

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Monday, 10 October 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link

So, since the hosts can apparently get infections, I guess that answers another question I had - can you eat the synthetic animals? I'd assume so. And: do they charge you an extra fee for that?

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Monday, 10 October 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

can you eat the people, and are they any good with bbq sauce

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Monday, 10 October 2016 16:20 (seven years ago) link

they can eat each other, that dude who has GREAT STORY IDEAS included auto-cannibalism in his pitch, which lol

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Monday, 10 October 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link

I was wondering about VR but they do keep spending time fixing what seem to be physical androids.

Stevolende, Monday, 10 October 2016 16:32 (seven years ago) link

hopkins and the boy in the desert: i should watch it again; i couldn't tell if the boy was a host or not

but hopkins said he had a vision (?) of a town with a white church. i wonder if his next great storyline is to let the guests build a town, settle permanently (open world expansion pack is always building your own place right) (hbo to david milch: drop dead)

goole, Monday, 10 October 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link

he tells the boy not to come there again and he like blankly accedes so yeah. it's unclear to begin with cos he says he's "on holiday" which doesnt scan as a period detail, but i guess it is

they are def hinting at guest/host stuff tho

didnt mib say something like "i've been coming here 30 years i was born here"?

r|t|c, Monday, 10 October 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link

i couldn't tell if the boy was a host or not

the way he dismissed him and told him not to go near that spot again seemed like a command to me, so i figured he was a host
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I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Monday, 10 October 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link

i ~think~ MIB snuck in a qualifier, like "it's like i was born here"

cuz like the dude is clearly waaaaay older than 30yo

i was a little confused about the interaction with the boy, too -- thought the commands at the end made it clear that he was a host, tho

also: the gun that dolores digs up at the end --- might this be a "real" gun that can harm guests (ie MIB)?

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 10 October 2016 16:59 (seven years ago) link

OH MY GOD THE DOUCHEBAG MCPOYLE BUDDY ACTOR IS PAOLO FROM NIKKI & PAOLO OH CHRIST IN HEAVEN NOOOO

r|t|c, Monday, 10 October 2016 17:10 (seven years ago) link

at the end of the maze is damon lindelof who turns direct to camera and ¯\_(ツ)_/¯s as mib tearfully deletes his thirty year event log and starts all over again from the beginning

r|t|c, Monday, 10 October 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

it was probably not intended to be read as such but a team of people in hazmat hosing the semen and blood off a room full of inert extras isn't such a bad commentary on HBO's product either (do u see)

xp really feel like my life has been improved by ignoring lost totally

goole, Monday, 10 October 2016 17:15 (seven years ago) link

30 years would be the age of the written programme which wouldn't necessarily corelate with the apparent age of the character.

Is he like a white blood cell cleaning up the set up or something?

Stevolende, Monday, 10 October 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link

he's a guest! which is why his actual ("actual") age is relevant

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 10 October 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link

I was wondering if he was definitely a guest. That isn't going to be the twist - that he's a higher level of programming that people would assume is a guest because he appears to appear from the outside while he actually doesn't. Not sure anything's been established enough so far to give him an external background story, has it?

Stevolende, Monday, 10 October 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link

Did wonder on hearing that line about him being born thereabouts if that was some form of a clue.

Stevolende, Monday, 10 October 2016 18:04 (seven years ago) link

i thought it had been leaked ahead of time that he was a guest (vs a host, like in the original)?

also seemed like he was being treated like a guest by the folks in the control room? "should we slow him down?" "no he can do what he likes" or something to that effect

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 10 October 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link

it was probably not intended to be read as such but a team of people in hazmat hosing the semen and blood off a room full of inert extras isn't such a bad commentary on HBO's product either

I thought this was fully intentional, a "show 'em" bookend to the "tell 'em" line by the black hat guest in the beginning about guns and tits, man

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Monday, 10 October 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link

pretty sure he's a guest who fully believes that he's found his true self by visiting Westworld, hence the disdain for all the "beginner" plots and reminiscing about all the times he's experienced things. "born here" is some evangelical-style rebirth stuff, or at least that's how it's presented so far

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Monday, 10 October 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link

How about the white-hat nebbish introduced in this episode is actually Ed Harris 30 years prior.

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Monday, 10 October 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link

*cocks eyebrow, extends pointer finger, taps temple 3 times*

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Monday, 10 October 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link

unless they go completely crazy with a future setting, all the entrances/exits are via elevators and hidden doors
the train bit seemed to be elevators dropping them into the staging area into the world, with the train "coming out of a tunnel" to go across the landscape toward the town

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Monday, 10 October 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link

reminds me a little of disney world, with the employee/entertainer doors being all over the park but very thinly disguised. so many locked/fake doors that aren't somewhere you'd want to wander, so you never think about them being actual routes that just aren't for visitors

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Monday, 10 October 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link

I visited WDW in high school with my school orchestra and we played a little concert on one of the stages. The transition from "on set" to the "back stage" area is kind of jarring -- you never realize how many little details are set up to make things seamless inside the park until you go through a gate and suddenly everything is very functional instead of ornamental and there's a giant rack of costumes just sitting off to the side

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Monday, 10 October 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

unless they go completely crazy with a future setting, all the entrances/exits are via elevators and hidden doors
the train bit seemed to be elevators dropping them into the staging area into the world, with the train "coming out of a tunnel" to go across the landscape toward the town

― dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Monday, October 10, 2016 7:19 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

was why I asked since it would break away from basic physical laws in a rather too magical way wouldn't it?
But it does seem that he goes down a corridor, through a door and is on a carriage in a moving train and the process is followed shortly afterwards by his friend.
You do see the light moving through the glass windows of the closed door in a way very reminiscent of a lift but it's onto a moving train.

Stevolende, Monday, 10 October 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link

Is the resort still called Delos in the reboot?

henry s, Monday, 10 October 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link

Yes.

Theory: white hat McPoyle introduced in this ep is past version of Ed Harris, his black hat friend gets killed, possibly by him, and the buried gun belonged to black hat friend. This season is going to be one long MIB origin story.

Also what's with the mouth on the lady scientist? She cursed more in one scene than all the faux saloon brawlers have together so far.

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Monday, 10 October 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link


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