the blue nile: hats

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xp honestly though i am really into this album atm i don't feel like it's going to be among my all-time favs or anything. i.e. i think that moodymann dj-kicks is actually a better treatment of "life and love" as a subject just because it's so much more varied. but as an intense and focused worshipful pop kind of thing this record is super good.

savvinesslessness (map), Tuesday, 4 October 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link

I've had this for years and always had a weird kind of magnetic repulsion relationship with it - as if it were a symbol of age and sophistication to which I wasn't ready to submit. It's clearly right in a particular arc of mine, too: widescreen, impossibly romantic, committed, staring out of windows, that sort of secular longing for a bright beyond... Anyway, thanks to this thread and the five albums thread I've dug it out again and, though I do have some issues with the production, well, I guess I'm finally old and (un)sophisticated because it's just about all I need right now.

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Tuesday, 4 October 2016 21:39 (seven years ago) link

have been devoted to blue nile since high school but the process you just described resembles what as happened to me with Peter Gabriel's Us. It was the corniest dadrock to me when it came out and now as a frightened weak early-middle-ager I find it incredibly moving

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 4 October 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link

This album is like a grand expression of tenderness without having the release of touching

Rae Kwoniff (NickB), Tuesday, 4 October 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link

^^^

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 October 2016 22:00 (seven years ago) link

I seem to run through the chords to "Let's Go Out Tonight" every time I pick up my guitar these days.

spastic heritage, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 22:26 (seven years ago) link

can i just btw

I love the meticulous productions of Talk Talk and David Sylvian's solo work, but I've never got on with The Blue Nile. I can't deny that the production on this record is great, but whenever I've listened to it I've often found my attention wavering very quickly. 'Let's Go Out Tonight' is a great example of a song that I switch off from long before the end.

― pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Monday, October 3, 2016 2:32 PM (two days ago)

Sing To God is on four, btw, and unlike Hats, stuff actually happens in it, so if you're a fan of stuff happening, check it out

― imago, Wednesday, October 5, 2016 2:13 PM (one hour ago)

yes everyone is lining up correctly

― supreme problematics (D-40), Saturday, July 11, 2015 2:26 AM (one year ago)

k3vin k., Wednesday, 5 October 2016 19:47 (seven years ago) link

let's go out tonight

akm, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link

I would like to hear a good vinyl rip of this album

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:19 (seven years ago) link

hayy i'm falling in love and this record is perfect for it, sue me. i think "over the hillside" is my fav now. religious. this record reminds me of the terence davies film distant voices still lives in its liturgical qualities and the production sounds like what the film looks like too i think.

:)

without going into too much detail i am also falling in love, and concomitantly (slowly) falling out of love with another person, a situation about which i have strong but mixed feelings, and maybe it's just bias but this record seems to pretty perfectly reflect those feelings. "let's go out tonight", for example, has this palpable supplication that can be read from either perspective. it's the only song i've listened to in the past 24 hours

k3vin k., Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:46 (seven years ago) link

i pray for love / coming out alright

k3vin k., Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:49 (seven years ago) link

I didn't really rate Saturday Night very highly until I heard some of the live versions on Youtube. Maybe that's one of the songs on the album that suffers most from the 80s production sound on the album, which I generally find fitting or neutral on the other songs on the album.

Pataphysician, Thursday, 6 October 2016 04:10 (seven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 13 October 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

I read the Nileism book in the time since this poll got started. Thought it was quite good. There are a few moments in there that really hurt my heart.

listening to this now for the first time. it seems like something that would reward multiple listenings - it's not grabbing me at first, really

Treeship, Thursday, 13 October 2016 00:13 (seven years ago) link

First album is more immediately striking, this one is more demure

I seem to have more of these micro-epiphanies at the moment, where I listen to an album intensely for a few days, or a week, then don't listen again for maybe a month, six months. I can't decide if it's my age, my own listening habits (I'm streaming a lot at the moment) or evidence of some wider trend.

That is my not very original, or very interesting, thought for the day.

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Thursday, 13 October 2016 07:11 (seven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 14 October 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

good results!

my current rankings SN = LGOT > DTL > HOTP > OTH > 7am > FADT

k3vin k., Friday, 14 October 2016 00:50 (seven years ago) link

This album is like a grand expression of tenderness without having the release of touching

― Rae Kwoniff (NickB), Tuesday, October 4, 201

This is a terse, beautiful description of late '80s Bryan Ferry albums.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 October 2016 00:51 (seven years ago) link

it may shock Brad that I still haven't finished a second listen.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 October 2016 00:51 (seven years ago) link

Alfred between this and Lovesexy you are seriously letting down 1989

Tim F, Friday, 14 October 2016 01:25 (seven years ago) link

Do Blue Nile fans enjoy David Cassidy's "Romance"?

Tim F, Friday, 14 October 2016 01:27 (seven years ago) link

alfred get it together

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 14 October 2016 01:45 (seven years ago) link

Sorry -- too busy listening to It's Better to Travel.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 October 2016 01:57 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

We listened to the first two tracks of this last night after I told him "I think I'm falling in love with you" and he said the same thing. He loves "Saturday Night". Also I found a copy of the first record on this trip.

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Monday, 31 October 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link

<3

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Monday, 31 October 2016 19:15 (seven years ago) link

awwww....love that!

Iago Galdston, Monday, 31 October 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link

aw

k3vin k., Monday, 31 October 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link

that is so extremely sweet map

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 31 October 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link

beautiful!

art baengels (monotony), Monday, 31 October 2016 23:19 (seven years ago) link

😊

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Monday, 31 October 2016 23:38 (seven years ago) link

<333

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 09:57 (seven years ago) link

This album is like a grand expression of tenderness without having the release of touching

Great description. This is probably why I can't get into this album. Somehow I am always waiting that it starts. And the singer's voice does not help. Maybe I am too impatient for this kind of stuff. I love bands like Talk Talk and Low though.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 1 November 2016 16:27 (seven years ago) link

it is the sound of longing buds

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 1 November 2016 16:44 (seven years ago) link

eight months pass...

"From A Late Night Train" is imo as sublime as it gets

― Master of Treacle, Monday, October 3, 2016 3:03 PM (nine months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i am beginning to realize this

k3vin k., Monday, 24 July 2017 01:36 (six years ago) link

I've probably said this before in any number of ILX posts over the years, but one thing that really stands out about The Blue Nile is the reverent or hymnal quality of their songwriting and production, the sense that the songs are gesturing toward something much larger than the band and their private concerns; certainly these songs never feel autobiographical (regardless of whether they in fact are or not, and notwithstanding the recurrent sonic and lyrical motifs which form the group's indelible imprint).

It's rare to find music so personal, so singular, that is not also idiosyncratic in the strong sense of that word, not irrevocably bound up with the personality of its creator(s). Certainly when I think about 80s pop it feels like a lot of material falls on either side of that line, either deeply personal or thoroughly universal; The Blue Nile's songs feel like a communication from one frame of reference to the other.

Kate Bush produced two songs which also walk this tightrope, I think ("Running Up That Hill", "This Woman's Work"). But only two.

With The Blue Nile it's just what they do.

Which is one reason why the band is so routinely covered by other artists relative to their general obscurity.

― Tim F, Monday, October 3, 2016 6:27 PM (nine months ago)

this is a characteristically amazing post but i have to say that after reading (part of) that paul buchanan interview with the quietus after mid air came out made me realize that all of their songs are very much painfully autobiographical

k3vin k., Monday, 24 July 2017 01:59 (six years ago) link

"From a Late Night Train" is one of the best songs on the album but it's not the kind of song that I could picture anyone saying is "the best one," hence it's ranking here. it's beautiful but too subtle to completely steal the show

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 24 July 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link

it is the sound of longing buds

― harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, November 1, 2016 12:44 PM (eight months ago

btw this is otm -- every blue nile/paul buchanan song is about longing

k3vin k., Monday, 24 July 2017 02:08 (six years ago) link

I need to own my own copy.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 July 2017 02:10 (six years ago) link

Booming post Tim

That reverent spirit is probably what triggers thoughts of a kinship with talk talk.

Also the feeling of longing which is so distilled it becomes religious and romantic at the same time

― I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Monday, October 3, 2016 6:41 PM (nine months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yep, and it's romance of a religious order, something you walk through with its own weather and texture, a weighted experience. every feeling almost having an architectural significance, as if they were individual buildings in a city you're walking through

a lot of this is in the form of address of buchanan's lyrics; it's never really a monologue, it mostly seems to be one end of a conversation, whether he's having that conversation with a person or the feeling of that person

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, October 3, 2016 7:01 PM (nine months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wow these posts speak to my soul

k3vin k., Monday, 24 July 2017 03:36 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

nice piece

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/the-blue-nile-hats/?mbid=social_twitter

piscesx, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link

Has this been reissued again?

henry s, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 18:54 (six years ago) link

fucking perfect essay man

k3vin k., Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:00 (six years ago) link

there's a gord downie lyric, "bigger dreams, bigger screens, bigger feelings are planned," that i think about a lot whenever i play this album

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:10 (six years ago) link

(been discussed on the pitchfork is dumb thread as well fyi)

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 19:23 (six years ago) link

poll results sound about right, front loaded album, if there's a bad song on it it's probably Seven AM.

Let's Go Out Tonight is of course the song to cry to, so vulnerable, their best imo

niels, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:56 (six years ago) link

7 AM is a great song!!

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:42 (six years ago) link

whats crazy is the sound of that song could be like ... a 2017 rap song

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:43 (six years ago) link

Ha! Future could prob rap his way through a lot of Blue Nile songs. I can see that.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:46 (six years ago) link


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