I'll take it!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 September 2016 21:39 (seven years ago) link
you're the best.
― savvinesslessness (map), Friday, 30 September 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link
we should get high some time
i hope you guys have a good time
sorry, mr. map. never knew how word-county exclusive the love of everything is. be seeing you :(
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 30 September 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link
you should join us
― savvinesslessness (map), Friday, 30 September 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link
i'd be there, but there's only so long you can persist excluded from 'the in board' before expectation totally deflates. which isn't to say though hey, hope you guys hit new highs
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 30 September 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link
if man is 5, if man is 5
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 30 September 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link
i'm not on 77 anymore fwiw and agree it has some boring and in-groupy elements but iirc it can be a good place to talk about things you don't want to be easily linked to your ilx account. josh in chicago has been around a long time though and there's been a lot of discussion about what 77 is on the main board and it seems he should at least kind of know what it is. i feel like i'm always seeing him say he doesn't know something and then drop 3 graphs about it anyway. i just think it's odd and find it annoying but w/e.
― savvinesslessness (map), Friday, 30 September 2016 22:03 (seven years ago) link
can't recall because i've never been invited to participate in 77 even though i've been clown-posting here for years turns out
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 30 September 2016 22:28 (seven years ago) link
So I will be receiving my medical marijuana card in the next week or so. this is an odd turn of events; I'm really not a smoker and I am a little wary of using this prescription but I've been dealing with chronic neck pain and muscle spasms for about 16 months so at this point I'll try anything.I'm an NYC resident. anyone have any questions?
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Friday, 14 October 2016 03:30 (seven years ago) link
you can ingest instead of smoke, but edibles are pretty potent, so be cautious
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 14 October 2016 05:42 (seven years ago) link
NYC doesn't offer legal smokable weed actually; my understanding is the options are time release capsules (meh), fluid for vaping (uh uh) and sub lingual drops. Given that I'll likely take this before I go to sleep, as that's when the pain is worse (and has been kept in check till now with an evening cocktail of 800mg ibuprofen and muscle relaxers), I think the immediate relief option is the one I'll go for. It's apparently offered as three separate levels of THC/CBD potency and you're guided by the pharmacist as to what's most effective through trial and error. Insurance won't cover this and the doc suggested a monthly dose would likely run $130 out of pocket... which sucks but if it genuinely works I'll take it. There appears to only be one dispensary in Manhattan proper but, as it happens, it's 45 minutes away by subway. Further reports when my card shows up and I start trying to make appointments.
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Friday, 14 October 2016 05:56 (seven years ago) link
https://col-careny.com/faqs/
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Friday, 14 October 2016 06:01 (seven years ago) link
another thread for our "new friend"
― sarahell, Friday, 14 October 2016 08:41 (seven years ago) link
Vaping fluid is very popular in legal states (and non-legal if you can find it) - an extract is made then mixed with propylene glycol or similar, the tank looks like the early e-cig things you could buy at corner stores.I've tried those, if that's the form it works like a champ. Screw the tank onto a $5 e-cig battery and take veeeeeeery light drags to start with. You're getting a lot of THC in concentrated form, it's easy to overdo it.
Edibles are too variable for me - I made a batch of coconut oil and it would take an unpredictable number of hours to hit me. Currently have tincture drops in the fridge but I haven't tried it yet - the idea of putting 151 under my tongue is horrifying. I'll probably just dropper it into a glass of water or something.
THC is the more useful part for pain but a 1:1 THC:CBD mixture is good if you're worried about anxiety/paranoia - CBD blunts the anxiety response some people have to THC. Higher CBD than THC (like the 20:1 products for epilepsy, etc.) don't get you high and while there's a body relaxation effect I don't think it would be useful for pain.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 14 October 2016 09:26 (seven years ago) link
re: variable time - first two times I tried the coconut oil effects were minor but then I went to sleep. Increased the dose by 2 more ml, went to bed an hour later THEN woke up 3 hours later higher than I have been in my entire life. Still sort of high the next morning. For some reason it wasn't hitting for 4 hours, maybe my digestion is fucked.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 14 October 2016 09:28 (seven years ago) link
We had made the coconut oil a few times and unpredictable is right. Sometimes it would come on in under an hour. Sometimes I'd be sitting there for three hours feeling like I'd wasted my time when it would finally start creeping up on me. I like the high much better than smoking it though.
― how's life, Friday, 14 October 2016 09:44 (seven years ago) link
I've been researching the whole thing for my crohns and finding it pretty confusing. I guess I don't need my gastroenterologist to be on board with the idea, but I do need some kind of statement of diagnosis from her. But who actually prescribes the shit for me? A doctor at the one place that exists in Manhattan?
― still lists its address as the recently razed home of “Morris” the (Jon not Jon), Friday, 14 October 2016 11:11 (seven years ago) link
Jon, let's talk. I can recommend the pain management doctor who helped me get the prescription.Basically all you need is a referral from someone who is certified to put you in the program and there's only a few in the city. I have a list and we can see who takes your insurance... or you can ask your gastro explicitly to place you with someone who can.
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Friday, 14 October 2016 15:06 (seven years ago) link
A sterling excuse to hang out!
― still lists its address as the recently razed home of “Morris” the (Jon not Jon), Friday, 14 October 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link
agreed! drop me a line!
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Friday, 14 October 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link
Chief Wana Dubie: In Memoriam
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 August 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/OtCmrl9.png
what the hell are they smoking in new hampshire
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:22 (five years ago) link
given all the car wrecks we've had in this country, why on earth should we be giving people bikes?
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link
It's just wishful thinking abt something I p sure I will never see in my lifetime anyway.― Rocker Brian (Abbbottt), Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:05 AM (eight years ago)
― Rocker Brian (Abbbottt), Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:05 AM (eight years ago)
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 18:46 (five years ago) link
Who's the one dweeb who voted nay?
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 20:37 (five years ago) link
it was the fuzz
― frogbs, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 20:37 (five years ago) link
it was someone in new hampshire. one time they know someone who smoked a bowl and immediately jumped out of a window because they thought they could fly
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 20:52 (five years ago) link
in the middle of that sentence someone asked me a question and i decided to just keep typing and let jesus take the wheel with the post. goddammit jesus
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 20:53 (five years ago) link
Does weed help with crohn? Asking for two friends. Both have it. Just seems an awful thing to have. :-(Also the one who voted no: learn to hit the correct answer.
― nathom, Thursday, 21 February 2019 08:09 (five years ago) link
Yes
― Mordy, Thursday, 21 February 2019 13:32 (five years ago) link
It has helped my crohns symptoms baseline and quelled flare ups when I have taken extra. I don’t know if it has done anything to the disease at a deeper level. Unfortunately it’s been over a month since I’ve been able to afford it (1:1 tincture is $210 a month in nyc)
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Monday, 25 February 2019 14:37 (five years ago) link
let's talk about this sometime jon
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 25 February 2019 14:45 (five years ago) link
Fuck the price is stupid high
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 25 February 2019 23:11 (five years ago) link
Wtf. 210 dollars??? A shop just opened here. They sell med weed at 10/12 euros. Been trying to convince the two ppl suffering from crohn to go. Alas one can't due to religious reasons, the other fears it might influence the impact of other medicine her kid is taking. (Daughter is 20 yo)
― nathom, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link
can confirm it helps. obviously there are side effects. because it can potentially affect late brain development, i would be hesitant to push for someone younger than their mid-20s to use it regularly unless absolutely necessary.
― ⅋ (crüt), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 15:58 (five years ago) link
Oh hell no. She's an adult. Wldnt recommend for a kid.
― nathom, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 15:59 (five years ago) link
20 still too young for more-than-occasional use imo (he said hypocritically)
― ⅋ (crüt), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 16:02 (five years ago) link
though if her current medication isn't sufficient it's certainly something to consider.
― ⅋ (crüt), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link
Her diagnosis is very recent though they now realize she's had it since she was 12. But it's sth to consider. Fuck Crohn. :-((((
― nathom, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:18 (five years ago) link
it help relieve symptoms for sure (i used to use it when i otherwise could not leave my house, now on humira that's not as much as an issue and i mostly use it for pain relief + appetite) and the science isn't quite there yet (mostly they're researching its effects on crohn's in israel) but the anti-inflammation might help w/ the crohn's itself
― Mordy, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:19 (five years ago) link
As an anti-inflammatory, is it even as effective as ibuprofen? Or is the idea that it is less effective but less unhealthy?
I might have mentioned already, but since I had always heard about its benefits for those with glaucoma (which my mother in law takes medicine for) we found that you would pretty much have to be dosing with cannabis on a near non-stop basis to come close to the effects of Rx meds.
I'm really torn about legalization, at least in some regards. It should really be decriminalized, or at least no more criminalized than alcohol, but that kind of elides over the issue that alcohol is not particularly good for you. So it's def. hypocritical and stupid that cannabis is mostly illegal and alcohol isn't, but probably for the vast majority of people neither has many benefits and both have potential drawbacks, health or otherwise. Of course we have tried prohibition, and that didn't work, but there's something kind of ... off about making something at least potentially dangerous freely available just because you can't stop people from using it. It's like a rhetorical circle.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 23:53 (five years ago) link
something at least potentially dangerous freely available just because you can't stop people from using it.
decriminalization cannot regulate the black market any more than prohibition can. even if you view it as a potentially dangerous drug, the fact that it cannot be effectively controlled in a black market means that at least a legal market allows us some small measure of regulation and control, and the state can collect taxes that may be used to offset potential harms.
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 00:14 (five years ago) link
JiC on what basis should the government be restricting people's usage of a plant? "potential drawbacks, health or otherwise" -- if that's your standard there are a lot of things we should ban before cannabis. not just alcohol. maybe we should ban palm oil, artificial sweeteners, high fructose corn syrup and sodas, cigarettes, alcohol, numerous over the counter medicines... humans can abuse all kinds of things and cannabis they can abuse much less than others.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 00:19 (five years ago) link
unless you can give me a clear and unequivocal reason why cannabis is dangerous to adults i don't think you need to be a libertarian to believe the govt has no business banning it.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 00:20 (five years ago) link
What's "at least potentially dangerous" about weed? Stoned driving?
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 00:27 (five years ago) link
but probably for the vast majority of people neither has many benefits
alcohol gets you drunk and weed gets you high; demanding more benefits seems plain spoiled
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 00:29 (five years ago) link
Well, you underscore my point. There are *a lot* of dangerous or potential dangerous things that we allow and/or encourage! From a rhetorical standpoint it seems as tenuous to me to say potentially dangerous product A should be legal because dangerous product B, etc is legal as it is to argue, well, people are just going to do it anyway. Even if both of those things are true! I def. don't think the government should ban it and I never said they should. It definitely benefits some people. The challenge, when it comes to legalization, esp. recreational, is where to draw those lines, those restrictions. Obv. small children shouldn't use cannabis products. How about teens? At what age? How should they be penalized for using under age, or holding at school, or showing up at school high? These are as much social issues as they are legal issues, and these are things people have struggled with for years for all sorts of substances/activities. But it stands to reason that the more legal it gets the more it will be used and abused, so a question becomes how to deal with that and when.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 00:30 (five years ago) link
xpost
If you hired a babysitter for your kid, would you rather she be stoned or sober? Would you care?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 00:31 (five years ago) link
I once had to eat a j that a friend had pre-rolled for me. I know he added some additional ingredients to the flower. Definitely kief. Possibly hash as well? Anyway, two hours later I was deeply, deeply stoned.
― peace, man, Friday, 12 May 2023 12:30 (eleven months ago) link
just wanna point out how stupid the situation is here in Wisconsin, where we are now entirely bordered by legal states. I have overheard the conversation of Illinois (which is taxed out the wazoo) vs. Michigan (which is further away but dirt cheap) so many times. and the convo always turns to "man just think of how much we're losing in tax dollars from this". it's so idiotic. to make it even more ridiculous we have farm bill weed which is essentially hemp with some sort of THC spray (or HHC, or Delta 8, or THCo, or whatever the fuck they're doing now), the stuff works but you don't wanna bother with it if you can get the real thing.
however I do think the edibles are legit, the only law is they have to be less than 0.3% THC. but I think most edibles you get in legal states are probably even lower than 0.3% so all it does is make edibles legal but unregulated. now this is a problem because I think a lot of these places fudge the actual amount of THC you get. something that's listed as 15mg is probably more like 7mg, which to me is a good dose. unfortunately once you find something you like it gets pulled and replaced and you have to figure out the dosage again. which is surprisingly difficult!! anyway fun adventures in legal weed the other day when I found one product I liked was available at some liquor store, but when I opened it up the gummies looked to be about 50% bigger, which I assume meant they tinkered with the formula. but no - I think what happened is "15mg" actually means "15mg", and so I was so fuckin zooted. twas a good time (eventually) but yeah I don't know why we can't just get the real thing!
― frogbs, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 19:24 (two months ago) link
The German cannabis law passed the Bundesrat today. It‘s legal to smoke pot in Germany starting April 1st… no, seriously.
― zwobotka, Friday, 22 March 2024 13:50 (three weeks ago) link
just wanna point out how stupid the situation is here in Wisconsin, where we are now entirely bordered by legal statesI assure you, you are not
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 22 March 2024 13:52 (three weeks ago) link
Man, yeah, the price difference between buying in Illinois versus Michigan is absolutely nuts. I was shocked the last time we were in Michigan and walked out with probably 5x what we'd get in Illinois for the same cost.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 March 2024 13:54 (three weeks ago) link