Frank Sinatra: S/D

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ooh!

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link

woah.. good stuff.

piscesx, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link

formatting putting me off making it through the whole thing but pretty much every paragraph has a great bit in it

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link

I highly recommend the biography "The Chairman" by James Kaplan. It's 900 pages, and begins at From Here To Eternity but boy is it entertaining. Basically, Frank was a mean drunk who drank a lot. And the older he got, the meaner he got.

He also kicked out a car radio when he heard Light My Fire on 3 consecutive stations.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 00:23 (seven years ago) link

That Lahr piece is fantastic. Is the Kaplan book the two-part one?

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 00:56 (seven years ago) link

I've always viewed the Rat Pack's rage/bitterness at the ascendancy of rock with a mixture of pity and "Now you guys know how Rudy Vallee felt, huh?"

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 16:26 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

Nancy Sinatra made it clear two weeks ago that she believed her father Frank Sinatra would not have supported Donald Trump, or performed at his inauguration.

Now a fan has asked her how she feels about the prospect of 'My Way' being sung at the event, after reports that the famous song would be performed for Trump's first dance with his wife Melania as US President.

"Just remember the first line of the song," she responded....

Sinatra himself came to hate the song despite popularising it in 1969, according to his daughter Tina, who said he "always thought that song was self-serving and self-indulgent".

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/nancy-sinatra-responds-donald-trump-my-way-sang-us-presidential-inauguration-having-frank-sinatra-my-a7534701.html

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:46 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuIcRiHlHoY

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 19 January 2017 18:05 (seven years ago) link

Absolutely insane story. Sinatra was a mean drunk to put it mildly (according to the huge James Kaplan biography from last year) and this story certainly backs that up.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 19 January 2017 18:06 (seven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

I like Something' Stupid a bit more than you while also forever being frustrated and perplexed by Nancy being so low in the mix. I think of tunes like this as "Italian Restaurant Music."

Josefa, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 16:53 (six years ago) link

And here's my top 25.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 January 2018 04:13 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

unusually shot on location

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSawinsjVKs

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link

and later in the same film... the bonhomie between Durante and Frank really makes this number fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLF8rkiV0Ts

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 November 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

I couldn't put down the first volume of Kaplan's bio over the holidays, highly recommended

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 January 2020 19:21 (four years ago) link

ends with Frank wandering the streets of Beverly Hills, alone, at night, clutching his newly-won Oscar for "From Here to Eternity"

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 January 2020 19:22 (four years ago) link

is the degree of mob connex more or less than u expected?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 January 2020 19:35 (four years ago) link

well I knew about the two most famous incidents (getting out of his contract with Dorsey and his conspicuous trip to Havana) and he sticks to what can be corroborated/documented on those points. The transcript of Frank's closed-door Senate testimony on the latter incident is quoted extensively. With the former he takes some pains to point out how the parallels in the Godfather are mostly fictional - someone may have threatened Dorsey with a gun, for ex, but nobody put a dead horse in his bed.

Otherwise he makes it clear that the mob was just part of the milieu he both grew up in as a kid and worked in as an adult, and that he wasn't particularly unusual in this regard. Guys like Bugsy Siegel and Willie Moore were just *around*, so some degree of involvement (and fascination with them) was inevitable.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 January 2020 20:23 (four years ago) link

his mob-financed stake in the Sands is also covered

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 January 2020 20:24 (four years ago) link

I'd never really listened to his pre-Nelson Riddle, Alex Stordahl-arranged stuff. Sheesh those strings really are soporific.

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 16:27 (four years ago) link

volume 2 (the Chairman) goes deep into the mafia stuff - kinda unavoidable given the Sinatra/Kennedy/Giancana nexus

Οὖτις, Monday, 13 January 2020 20:56 (four years ago) link

I wonder who will make the biopic now Marty has given it the elbow

https://news.avclub.com/martin-scorsese-says-he-s-giving-up-on-his-frank-sinatr-1798255980/amp

piscesx, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 04:40 (four years ago) link

Ken Roberts:

"The hat check girl, Fran, came in, and said 'Someone just shot Bobby Kennedy', and Sinatra made the comment, 'I hope they shot him in the fuckin' head.'

A couple minutes later, she came back and said 'Yes, he was shot in the head.' Sinatra turned white and became so frightened and panicked... he thought that, while he was singing, someone might shoot him"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 23:01 (four years ago) link

this book is fucking insane

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 23:01 (four years ago) link

important new developments:

There's a QAnon follower who angrily speculates that Pope Francis is secretly Frank Sinatra, who in reality died in 1998.

Sinatra going from a world-famous boozing philanderer to the celibate head of the Catholic Church would be quite a dramatic lifestyle change. pic.twitter.com/0udwW7o2H9

— Travis View (@travis_view) January 30, 2020

mark s, Thursday, 30 January 2020 20:15 (four years ago) link

the end of this reminded me very much of the last chapters of the James Brown bio "The One". Not in the particulars (Frank didn't go on any PCP-fueled cross-country car chases), more in the dynamic of being emotionally isolated (and stunted) triumphal figures with nowhere to go but down. After being on top of the world he basically just regretfully slides into creative stagnation and a sort of blank, resentful resignation: no real friends or family, nothing to do, embalmed in his own legend. Did he think it was all worth it, at the end? who knows

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 January 2020 20:36 (four years ago) link

also yes obviously Frank is the world's first 105-year old American pope

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 January 2020 20:37 (four years ago) link

Frank didn't go on any PCP-fueled cross-country car chases

Cannonball Run II, yo.

https://pics.imcdb.org/12851/snap480.5.jpg

"Gas, grass, or ass, baby..."

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:48 (four years ago) link

lol fair point

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:56 (four years ago) link

Brian Wilson talking about writing "Still I Dream of It" for Frank, how awesome "Only the Lonely" is etc

https://youtu.be/YZAwYF2tLbU?t=462

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:09 (four years ago) link

(thx to Tyler for the link!)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:10 (four years ago) link

this is so great!

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 13 February 2020 06:37 (four years ago) link

ten months pass...

Apparently Capitol Recording Studios (where Frank recorded many of his greatest records, including Only the Lonely) has closed for good - the entire staff was laid off. Would be a shame if they gut it (which I guess will probably happen) - the famous echo chamber alone is irreplaceable.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 08:19 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hDFSbsqn5U

birdistheword, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 08:19 (three years ago) link

Really? That is ... not good. Where did you hear that?

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 12:07 (three years ago) link

Here's what a freelance cutting engineer in L.A. posted last night:

"Stephen Marsh just told me that Capitol Tower Studios is closed and staff has been let go, Ron McMaster confirmed all mastering engineers, Perry and Dave in Restoration and even Paula Salvatore (!!!)"

McMaster is their longtime mastering engineer - he was supposed to retire like a decade ago, but he wound up staying due to the vinyl boom. (Very few people left have his experience in cutting vinyl.) He finally called it a day in 2018.

Salvatore may be familiar to anyone who's seen Dave Grohl's Sound City documentary - she used to run that studio before Capitol.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link

Ugh.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link

I checked back with their website to see if an official announcement had been made. It now says "SERVICES TEMPORARILY UNAVAILABLE." (https://www.capitolstudios.com/)

birdistheword, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 17:08 (three years ago) link

Actually, what am I talking about? There's a pandemic going on, so maybe it was already up for that.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link

Now it sounds like the studio won't be closing altogether. The entire staff has been let go, and the mastering department is probably gone for good, but if the pandemic improves and they can start booking regular sessions again, they're hoping to re-open. I hope that's the case. I thought they were doing fine relatively speaking so I'd be stunned if this was truly the end.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 17:54 (three years ago) link


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