Aerosmith C/D?

The back stage is rocking and we're coppin' from the local police

Aw, the justice of peace

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Today my brother told me that session guitar maestro Dick Wagner played the rave-up/solo on Aerosmith's cover of Train Kept a Rollin'. Is this common knowledge that I somehow missed? Anyone else heard this rumour?

Feel like there was some discussion of that recently but its not on this thread, apparently?

A guy passed me on the street the other day who liked an alternate-universe Steven Tyler, in which he never made it in music and instead went to business school and became a tubby middle manager who was late for his 10 a.m. meeting.

I could've sworn there was a thread recently where someone (Neanderthal?) was slagging off Aerosmith for not even playing on their earlier records and the Train Kept a Rollin thing was mentioned along with session work by the Alice Cooper band guys via Bob Ezrin...? this doesn't ring a bell with anybody?

ah here it is: Aerosmith's Greatest Hits (1980)

Wimmels was the one who brought up Wagner

Aerosmith's Greatest Hits (1980)

somewhat surprised AlS doesn't much go for the band's 90s ballads… them's the best of the power variety that ever was… or "Don't Wanna miss a Thing" is the ne plus ultra of Diane Warren…

I like "Thing" more than I did in 1998, but it still sounds like Tyler's passing a hernia.

A friend at the time said she hoped to date a guy who said the things Tyler does to her.

ew

http://www.detroitrocknrollmagazine.com/2015/02/aerosmiths-train-kept-rollin-who-did.html

But few people know that they had a little help along the way when, during the recording, Record Producer Jack Douglas saw the now legendary session man Steve Hunter sitting outside the studio taking a cigarette break from a different session and he asked Steve to play a solo over the first half of the track.

It was very quick Steve recalls, he got his own guitar which he thinks would have been a 1959 Les Paul TV Special. They took some time to get a sound, then, ran through the track. But, as he did not have the vocal in his headphones they ran through it again this time with the vocal in, and Steve nailed it.

He got paid about $750 for doing it, then, as it turns out, 'Train' had a huge impact on the career of the young, inexperienced Aerosmith. They went on to bigger and better things, becoming one of the highest paid, most domineering bands in Rock Music.

Unbeknownst to Steve, Douglas also enlisted his session companion Dick Wagner to play the solo over the second half simulated live ‘Yardbirds’ section.

Neither Hunter or Wagner got a credit on the album, as ‘ghosting’ as it’s sometimes called was fairly common practice at that time.

Hunter has no idea why he was asked to record the solo; as he says, it was none of his business. The rest of the band we’re all there, they were very nice to him and he was never asked to teach anybody what he played.

In 2013 Joe Perry played a solo on Steve's solo album 'The Manhattan Blues Project' (The Brooklyn Shuffle) alongside his buddy Johnny Depp, so clearly there are no hard feelings and why should there be.

Statement from Steve Hunter

"Aerosmith was in Studio C of The Record Plant and I was doing work with Bob Ezrin in Studio A. I had a long wait between dubs and was waiting in the lobby. Jack Douglas popped his head out of Studio C and asked "Hey, do you feel like playing? I said sure, so I grabbed my guitar and went in" "I had two run thru’s, then Jack said "great' that's it! That turned out to be the opening solos on 'Train Kept A Rollin’ " steve hunter 2/1/2015

This also came up recently during a discussion of Lou Reed's Rock n Roll Animal.

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Thanks. I must now, with hanging head, after telling him he's wrong, tell my brother he was right. D'oh!

Alfred's list is fine. I really just can't get with most reformed Aerosmith, but one track out there that I think fits with the old druggy 70s music is "Hangman Jury" off of Permanent Vacation.

When I was a kid, I got a three of Aerosmith's LPs as 8-tracks and that was the format I really heard them first in. I can't remember what track it was but one on 'Draw the Line' clicked to a new track in the middle of a song nearly in time that was pretty hilarious.

I love how "no surpiZe" is a latter day origin story for the band..."and old Clive Davis said he surely gonna make us a star" and Tyler's raspy "smoking up the axle grease" and how the track descends into Draw the Line coked up mania by the end with a greedy rant of "ascap, bmi , if Japanese can make tea then where the fuck my royalties?"

Just noticed today that the version of “same old song and dance” on Wings is different - a little more loose - than the one on Greatest Hits

https://i.imgur.com/coX6KrS.jpg

New font on the logo?

I made it to the end of “live bootleg” and by the time they make it to “I ain’t got you” / “mother popcorn” / “train kept rolling” it’s clear that they’re just a bar band that struck it big

I'd rather be O.D.in' on the honk of her bobo

Better: I'd rather be honkin' on the crack of her bobo

“I ain’t got you” has some Tyler honkin’ and it’s as mediocre abs cliched as you’d expect

I’m deep in an Asmith YouTube hole. Watching the “making of pump” documentary. I can’t believe there’s accordion on “what it takes.”
Joe justifying commercialism by saying “if I were a purist I’d be playing in a coffee shop in Cambridge. I’m an entertainer. I play arena rock”

any thoughts on the 1971 practice tape? called “the road starts hear”? i love it. very strange rolling stone review here which harps on the sound quality? calling it “dusty” and “a fossil” etc which is just… what? it sounds… frankly amazing?? maybe the reviewer got a copy with some bad juju rubbed into it? its bobo already honked?

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/aerosmith-1971-road-starts-hear-review-1261908/

Fossil butt rock

very happy i saw aerosmith for $25 last year, now that this expensive farewell tour has been announced

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Now we know where Giger got his inspiration for Alien