i liked that new yorker thing. i thought it did a good job at explaining their appeal/what they are.
― scott seward, Saturday, 24 September 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link
lol i thought it was p good snark, it's the nyer's stock in trade. maybe if i liked the band more i'd be more critical of the piece.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 24 September 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link
i didn't even think it was that snarky.
― scott seward, Saturday, 24 September 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link
i just feel like music writing of that sort is useless if you want to know what the act sounds like and not what their fans purportedly think. bad writing. but the new yorker's music writing has been at sea lately so.
― maura, Saturday, 24 September 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link
it was trying to explain their popularity though. not review the album. and i thought it succeeded in describing why teens like them. i thought it was written well. and i hate everything.
― scott seward, Saturday, 24 September 2016 19:52 (seven years ago) link
like, if someone said: what's up with those guys? i would have them read that.
i just dislike that kind of bemusedly removed pop sociology but i guess we can agree to disagree
― maura, Saturday, 24 September 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link
It's not just teens though, my 30-something friends who stopped caring about new music like a decade ago all have 'stressed out' or 'ride' in their ipods/spotify/iphones.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 September 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link
it's not just bemusement though.
I felt like I was listening to the soundtrack for a horror movie sponsored by Hot Topic, in which the great and terrible horror was just learning to be you.
sure it's snark but it also feels really perceptive to me, it cuts through to something important about the how the band project their identity onstage and how that connects with people
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 24 September 2016 20:38 (seven years ago) link
most people writing removed pop sociology wouldn't have bothered going to a concert. a field report! i dig that. i was just re-reading greg tate's review of a bruce springsteen show in new jersey and i could read that kinda stuff all day long.
― scott seward, Saturday, 24 September 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link
sfj spent most of his last few years at the new yorker explaining what songs sounded like and it was super boring imo
― just sayin, Saturday, 24 September 2016 21:35 (seven years ago) link
but i also don't need to read a 20,000 word nu-journalism account of a twenty one pilots show. not that anyone is really doing that. maybe john jeremiah sullivan could do it.
i was trying to read that grover lewis anthology recently and my eyes started glazing over. zzzzzzz......soooooo long. and so dated too in a way. the attitude. the allman brothers should have kicked his butt.
― scott seward, Saturday, 24 September 2016 21:52 (seven years ago) link
(same thing happened when i tried to read that old nik cohn rock book recently. ugh, get me out of here...)
― scott seward, Saturday, 24 September 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link
that graf is boring! also i go to shows all the time :p
― maura, Saturday, 24 September 2016 23:05 (seven years ago) link
aw c'mon
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 24 September 2016 23:07 (seven years ago) link
sorry but yeah i'm not! it's a totally facile observation
― maura, Saturday, 24 September 2016 23:10 (seven years ago) link
well maybe but imo it's deliciously put.
there are other things to be said that could be more about the music, or just about any music - like there are actually tons of "remember when you were a kid, and having a parent, when you were a kid???" songs in the charts. there have been for years now. which you wouldn't know from that article. "don't you worry child" by swedish house mafia. lukas graham. there are so many more than i can't think of right now because i've spent time actively trying to block them out. (lukas graham slipped through the net)
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 24 September 2016 23:19 (seven years ago) link
i just googled "pop songs about being a kid" and this article was on the first page of results. i think we can all agree this is a valuable resource.
http://www.chilldad.com/10-dirty-pop-songs/
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 24 September 2016 23:22 (seven years ago) link
yeah and the "'member that" positioning is especially strange given how aggressively pop has skewed younger over the last two decades
― maura, Saturday, 24 September 2016 23:36 (seven years ago) link
i like this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOUBW8bkjQ4
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:29 (five years ago) link
the other new song is way more "someone's lazy idea of a twenty one pilots song"
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link
this song is cool and good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmL9TqTFIAc
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:06 (five years ago) link
and the album itself is surprisingly good and engaging throughout. their rapping will always be kinda repellant to me but it's well-balanced with the mutant rock/pop/r&b/trip-hop record that the rest of this is
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link
big Sunday NY Times profile last weekend, tldnr
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link
new album blasting downstairs at student pit
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link
i find it encouraging that a band this huge made such a weird and collagistic record but i also think this album may be too arty to sustain what blurryface did
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link
my bro convinced me to listen to this and i kinda liked it, wasnt expecting to liek any of it. some parts kind of sounded like manchester orchestra to me. wish they would drop the rapping obv.
― Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link
Jumpsuit is carrying the linkin park torch nicely. prob my favorite song on here
― Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link
"bandito" is mine, it absolutely rules
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link
Bandito and Morph are great.
― Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link
"they suck but the basic materials they work with could be good." from brad about their earlier material was completely otm, but i didn't expect them to ever actually deliver on that potential, this album is pretty good!
kinda surprised that this album has been pretty ignored critically, like this band is massively popular and clearly has enough going on that surely critics would have something interesting to say about them.
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 21:52 (five years ago) link
"Nico and the Niners" is still pretty dreadful though and I don't think "Pet Cheetah" really works for me either
― ufo, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sO-Y1Zbft4
they're good now
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 10 April 2021 13:45 (three years ago) link
Solid mainstream band I think
― i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Saturday, 10 April 2021 23:37 (three years ago) link
relistening to trench today, even better than i remembered, probably better than i characterized it upthread
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:04 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_9Kf0D5BTs
aiight maybe i've done the full heel turn, i love this song
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link
"bandito" is so good, i nearly forgot
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 April 2021 21:33 (three years ago) link
also i will halfheartedly defend most of blurryface at this point. i... like "ride" now?
here let me ruin vampire weekend for you *slowly turns up volume dial on twenty one pilots "ride"*
most 21 pilots superfans would tell you that blurryface is a mainstream concession and vessel is the real shit but i find vessel real juvenile still. some of the hooks are wonderful ("ode to sleep") but many of the almost-good songs are still like rube goldberg machines of bad decisions. what's worse than the rapping? nearly every time this band breaks out the ukulele
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 April 2021 21:40 (three years ago) link
of course, trench is >>>>>>>>>>
even the uke tracks work
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 April 2021 21:44 (three years ago) link
"shy away" is underwhelming, just feels like part of that small wave of major label pop rock bands who tried to sound like the strokes (neon trees etc.)
it's not bad but kinda forgettable and uninteresting which is the last thing this band should be. even when they've been horrible they were at least interestingly horrible making the worst musical decisions possible etc.
― ufo, Saturday, 17 April 2021 06:20 (three years ago) link
on the plus side: no rapping!
idk it’s a really well-written song imo. everything a hook
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 17 April 2021 13:57 (three years ago) link
been stuck in my head for a week
I will rep for blurryface. Great songs, great visual aesthetic too. Saw them twice live in this time (w/ my teen kids) and the energy start to finish was impressive (band and crowd). Surging quasi pit filled most of the room. Many backflips were flipped. Show climaxes with Tyler on a 30 foot steel pillar above the crowd singing Car Radio.
― Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Saturday, 17 April 2021 16:32 (three years ago) link
i really like blurryface at this point. even lowlight “lane boy” has a sick dnb freak out
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 17 April 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sBRnnnZyFw
really good imo
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 30 April 2021 15:59 (three years ago) link
it's good until the second half where it goes into half-time and then the outro rap is dreadful
― ufo, Friday, 30 April 2021 16:14 (three years ago) link
god what a weird record
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 21 May 2021 13:12 (two years ago) link