why the hell isn't there a thread for RILKE dammit

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you sort of feel bad for this kappus dude as you read through those letters, the guy obviously idolized rilke so much and struggled to live the solitary, monkish existence rilke prescribed and seemingly was always writing to him saying "man i really don't know if i'm cut out for this" and rilke just keeps coming back with "my dear mr kappus, everything that is worthwhile is SUPPOSED to be difficult" and kappus just goes "welp ok" and presses on with this miserable existence and sending rilke his shitty poetry

have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Thursday, 22 September 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

The sky puts on the darkening blue coat
held for it by a row of ancient trees;
you watch: and the lands grow distant in your sight,
one journeying to heaven, one that falls;

and leave you, not at home in either one,
not quite so still and dark as the darkened houses,
not calling to eternity with the passion
of what becomes a star each night, and rises;

and leave you (inexpressibly to unravel)
your life, with its immensity and fear,
so that, now bounded, now immeasurable,
it is alternately stone in you and star.

k3vin k., Sunday, 16 October 2016 16:19 (seven years ago) link

hi!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 16 October 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link

dude is just slaying me lately

btw if a hoos is still looking for a good translator, i think stephen mitchell towers above the others i've read.

k3vin k., Sunday, 16 October 2016 19:16 (seven years ago) link

THE DWARF’S SONG
My soul itself may be straight and good;
ah, but my heart, my bent-over blood,
all the distortions that hurt me inside—
it buckles under these things.
It has no garden, it has no sun,
it hangs on my twisted skeleton
and, terrified, flaps its wings.

Nor are my hands of much use. Look here:
see how shrunken and shapeless they are:
clumsily hopping, clammy and fat,
like toads after the rain.
And everything else about me is torn,
sad and weather-beaten and worn;
why did God ever hesitate
to flush it all down the drain?

Is it because he’s angry at me
for my face with its moping lips?
It was so often ready to be
light and clear in its depths;
but nothing came so close to it
as big dogs did.
And dogs don’t have what I need.

k3vin k., Saturday, 22 October 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

happy birthday to this bad-ass SOB

k3vin k., Sunday, 4 December 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link

otm <3

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 4 December 2016 22:30 (seven years ago) link

eight months pass...

As one puts a handkerchief before pent-in-breath-
no: as one presses it against a wound
out of which the whole of life, in a single gush,
wants to stream, I held you to me: I saw you
turn red from me. How could anyone express
what took place between us? We made up for everything
there was never time for. I matured strangely
in every impulse of unperformed youth,
and you, love, had wildest childhood over my heart.

THIS. GUY.

k3vin k., Tuesday, 15 August 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link

(btw, the mitchell translation is better, predictably)

k3vin k., Monday, 21 August 2017 03:07 (six years ago) link

that one is beautiful, thx k3v

flopson, Monday, 21 August 2017 03:16 (six years ago) link

nine months pass...

"All companionship can consist only in the strengthening of two neighboring solitudes, whereas everything that one is wont to call giving oneself is by nature harmful to companionship: for when a person abandons himself, he is no longer anything, and when two people both give themselves up in order to come close to eachother, there is no longer any ground beneath them and their being together is a continual falling."
^^ possibly my favorite thing anyone has ever said about relationships

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, August 22, 2009 11:08 PM (eight years ago)

christ

k3vin k., Saturday, 9 June 2018 05:03 (five years ago) link

Love Song

How can I keep my soul in me, so that
it doesn't touch your soul? How can I raise
it high enough, past you, to other things?
I would like to shelter it, among remote
lost objects, in some dark and silent place
that doesn't resonate when your depths resound.
Yet everything that touches us, me and you,
takes us together like a violin's bow,
which draws one voice out of two separate strings.
Upon what instrument are we two spanned?
And what musician holds us in his hand?
Oh sweetest song.

k3vin k., Saturday, 9 June 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

nine months pass...

finally going to give the duino elegies a proper go, wish me luck

k3vin k., Wednesday, 13 March 2019 18:15 (five years ago) link

Good luck! I suggest listening to the originals as well, even if you don't have German, just so you can get a feel for Rilke's ear. For instance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giKMhvg36QA

I'd prefer a slightly less theatrical reading, but hearing these poems is always a pleasure.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 18:23 (five years ago) link

thanks! I’ll check that out

k3vin k., Wednesday, 13 March 2019 18:38 (five years ago) link

But Nature, spent and exhausted, takes lovers back
into herself, as if there were not enough strength
to create them a second time. Have you imagined
Gaspara Stampa intensely enough so that any girl
deserted by her beloved might be inspired
by that fierce example of soaring, objectless love
and might say to herself, “Perhaps I can be like her”?
Shouldn’t this most ancient of sufferings finally grow
more fruitful for us? Isn’t it time that we lovingly
freed ourselves from the beloved and, quivering, endured:
as the arrow endures the bowstring’s tension, so that
gathered in the snap of release it can be more than
itself. For there is no place where we can remain

k3vin k., Wednesday, 13 March 2019 18:45 (five years ago) link

Every time I go back to Rilke I find more and more and more. I really think it could be possible to fully self-analyse in deep contemplation of his work.

alrakis morissette (tangenttangent), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 20:02 (five years ago) link

As a slight aside, not only does Maurice Blanchot's The Space of Literature single-handedly justify literary criticism, it features several outright life-altering readings of Rilke's work (granted, most of them deal with death). Blanchot's is a very partial view, of course, but it's the one that stuck with me.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 20:09 (five years ago) link

O trees of life, when does your winter come?
We are not in harmony, our blood does not forewarn is
like migratory birds’. Late, overtaken,
we force ourselves abruptly onto the wind
and fall to earth at some iced-over lake.
Flowering and fading come to us both at once.
And somewhere lions still roam and never know,
in their majestic power, of any weakness

k3vin k., Wednesday, 20 March 2019 19:34 (five years ago) link

O trees of life, when does your winter come?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=When+is+winter

shoulda zagged (esby), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 20:38 (five years ago) link

been working through the notebooks of malte for a few months. started on the most recent penguin translation but it was a library copy that had fell to bits in my bag, in transit, so i picked up another, but it's an old hogarth press edition - so i started again. translation matters! a particular passage stuck out, to date -- "the existence of the terrible in every particle of the air". that writing on uncanny childhood, domesticity, silence is unlike anything.

https://i.imgur.com/bqU8l3X.png

meaulnes, Thursday, 21 March 2019 14:23 (five years ago) link

also! i plan to visit duino castle at some point this/next year. one of a few literary excursions i have planned - the woolf's house in sussex, dylan thomas' boatshed, trieste...

meaulnes, Thursday, 21 March 2019 14:24 (five years ago) link

the third elegy has a lot in common with that passage. might be my favorite so far — his utter love of humanity, how he considers his childhood and recognizes beauty, terror, longing, love, death were always present...imprinted, like a gene...is so overwhelming

k3vin k., Thursday, 21 March 2019 18:14 (five years ago) link

btw on the topic of translations, I’ve got the stephen mitchell brick, and I really love it

k3vin k., Thursday, 21 March 2019 18:15 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

i've only read sonnets to orpheus, and just finished letters to a young poet about 10 minutes ago. i wish i would have read the letters to a young poet 20 years ago.

all of the words on solitude, the theme that probably comes up the most often in these letters, hit hard. i'm in the most extended solitary time of my life right now, and it hadn't really struck me to try to make it a virtue or to learn a damned thing from it. but rilke is very persuasive.

you sort of feel bad for this kappus dude as you read through those letters, the guy obviously idolized rilke so much and struggled to live the solitary, monkish existence rilke prescribed and seemingly was always writing to him saying "man i really don't know if i'm cut out for this" and rilke just keeps coming back with "my dear mr kappus, everything that is worthwhile is SUPPOSED to be difficult" and kappus just goes "welp ok" and presses on with this miserable existence and sending rilke his shitty poetry

-k3vin k.

extremely relatable. the young poet, kappus, provides a kind of epilogue to his own story in the intro, when he write "...my regular correspondence with Rainer Maria Rilke which lasted until 1908 and then gradually petered out because my life drove me off into those very regions from which the poet's warm, tender and touching concern had sought to keep me." sometimes you get the all-time best advice, and length, delivered just for you after great contemplation from one of the most thoughtful people who ever existed, and it still doesn't work and your life peters out. the nature of rilke's advice on solitude is such that it still provides a path forward for a creative life that has seemingly lost its value and has gone quiet. i like the way he talks about "things" (animals and plants, etc) existing and growing as they are, without all the human nonsense that we (i) endlessly pile on it. things just grow and go about their business, not knowing why or being able to ask why, and are divine in a sense because of it

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 23:12 (one year ago) link

"Almost everything serious is difficult; and everything is serious."

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 23:13 (one year ago) link


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