ILX Gonna Shine in My Backdoor Someday (new post-Fahey folk for ppl posting in Takoma/Tompkins Square threads Pt II)

the gary salzman track is by far the standout after first runthrough

Another one! This would probably seem like overkill for most other people, but the fact is people were talking this way about Jack even when he was alive. Nice to see so many heartfelt remembrances here

heh, yeah, it does seem like overkill ... and then i go and read it and love every word.

IA8 is really amazing

like i know people have....mixed reactions to that dude i guess...but man Tompkin's Square has found and released so much amazing guitar music both old and new...like I'd say at least 80% of ppl I feel like are "major" players in the scene now have been featured on IAs and this one is a wealth of old stuff that's great...His taste and ear for this stuff is impeccable.

Agreed. This latest volume is my favorite so far. My current favorite is the Lee Murdock tune, which I haven't seen many people singling out. I'm a sucker for a great melody, I guess!

that one sounded good on a crisp ride to work this morning!

yeahhh, that one has a nice George Cromarty feel to it. so pretty.
i'm going to have to bug klausman about hearing complete LPs of some of these players ...
looks like you can get CDs from Murdock himself: http://leemurdock.com/featured-work/where-the-pinery-narrows/
http://leemurdock.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/lee-murdock-where-the-pinery-narrows.jpg

and on the other side of things ... this tashi dorji / tyler damon duo is sounding awesome: https://soundcloud.com/familyvineyard/tashi-dorji-tyler-damon-both-will-escape

lee murdock seems nice :)

just a guy writing guitar instrumentals about old boats and lakes

This Spotify playlist = my favourite music today

i haven't actually seen that- link?

https://open.spotify.com/user/forksclovetofu/playlist/0HXEGPLEFmCb2ZrJk1e9ON

And on that note; the playlist is updated for the month of September.

found this while building; it's great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AU6y8N_Unk

I need to get some of his stuff. His track on the new IA comp has quickly become my favorite on there.

I find that I increasingly enjoy the more melodic side of guitar soli, the guys who could really write. That's why I love Crandell, and the early de Grassi LPs: the compositions. Kinda tired of ragas and blues, and alternating thumb, and Travis picking. Wanna hear more stoned impressionism-type stuff! What else is in this vein that I may not be aware of?

I should probably try again with Cromarty. People who like this sort of thing love him, but I've always found him a bit too stately or something. I dunno. I'm probably too picky.

haven't had much luck recording lately, i went through this whole phase with strictly acoustic playing where i was listening to glenn jones and kind of getting depressed like his compositions and playing are so perfect but perfectly at ease with themselves and everything he does just feels like he's so comfortable in his own skin as a player like why bother if you're not as good as he is?

i dunno

anyway this came together really quickly, i wrote this thing then when i put this digital delay plugin preset on it it seemed to just come alive, then i added some analog synth to it, anyway i'm pretty excited about this one at the moment

https://soundcloud.com/matthew-lee-helgeson/oceanic

sounds awesome

yeah i like this! almost moving into a dustin wong-y territory ...

nice recording of a recent william tyler band set here: http://sweetblahg.tumblr.com/post/150968314573/william-tyler-band-constellation-2016

Imo "Why bother" mentality is toxic. If you've got something to say/play, you gotta say/play it. Censorship sucks :)

thank yall - la lechera i know yr right, it's a bad frame of mind to go into hard not to sometimes

I find that I increasingly enjoy the more melodic side of guitar soli, the guys who could really write. That's why I love Crandell, and the early de Grassi LPs: the compositions. Kinda tired of ragas and blues, and alternating thumb, and Travis picking. Wanna hear more stoned impressionism-type stuff! What else is in this vein that I may not be aware of?
― Wimmels, Sunday, September 25, 2016 2:27 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he did a fair amount of blues stuff but i think peter lang is underrated in this regard, and also he apparently came to solo guitar before ever being discovered by fahey

The only Lang I know is that one album everyone has with Fahey and Kottke. His brother's track on that Numero comp a few years back was excellent too. What's good?

His Yakima debut The Thing At the Bedroom Window is up there with any Fahey or Kottke for me

yeah he has some jams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By4YOVrhj90

also ogmor should curate an imaginational anthem comp

yeah, i was thinking a good IA comp would be focused on the international side of things (though maybe that's getting too far afield from the imaginational mission statement). but either way, exploring the volk guitarist world would be a cool comp for sure.

oops thing at nursery room window! xpost

ogmor IA would be sweet

yeah lang has some more intricately composed, melodic things that i love -- this one is amazing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CteLJ5XmmZI
has a total of 19 views of YouTube! let's get it to 25, people.

lang like kottke unfortunately later on felt like he needed to try singing, which isn't necessarily bad but never more than mediocre trad folk

thanks for the vote of confidence guys, I hope there's appetite out there for a broader range of hot instrumental guitar playing. the way IA has built up an audience is impressive, I'm amazed that making compilations like that is financially viable, but I am always open to offers...

also going wayyy back upthread to those who wondered if dbh was a single human or had never seen footage, here's some melodic & impressionistic proof <spoilers>:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jm-HQEoRr8

he is at least something of a fahey fan; the yellow princess makes it on to the records on his site alongside the more common anglo favs like nick drake, chic, mf doom etc. his bandcamp is more up-to-date

it makes some kind of sense that the yellow princess would be his fahey album

see millions now living will never die, i remember also doug from tortoise interviewing wm tyler who was a big fan, but in general i've always felt the renewed interest in this type of music is at least partially an outgrowth of post rock

the bridge on his guitar is really big
confirming that he plays a classical as i assumed

he's very cagey. he posted some video of a track on his latest 'bog dance' but it got removed, presumably by the man himself

should have been parenthesis on (bog dance)

I love the acoustic stuff on Mood; the other stuff not as much. he's obviously a great player, though

How is Time Flies?

Loved that track UpperMississippi - nice one.

And it's probably terribly pretentious but this quote from Eliot (Four Quartets) is a thing I always return to:

And so each venture
Is a new beginning, a raid on the inarticulate
With shabby equipment always deteriorating
In the general mess of imprecision of feeling,
Undisciplined squads of emotion. And what there is to conquer
By strength and submission, has already been discovered
Once or twice, or several times, by men whom one cannot hope
To emulate—but there is no competition—
There is only the fight to recover what has been lost
And found and lost again and again: and now, under conditions
That seem unpropitious. But perhaps neither gain nor loss.
For us, there is only the trying. The rest is not our business.

You guys put me on a dbh binge today. What a terrific player, and great songs, too. Again, I sorta wish he wasn't so darn ambitious / eclectic, because I much prefer his solo acoustic pieces to his post-rock or electric blues pieces. I respect the reach, and I appreciate that he acknowledges shit like Slint and Tortoise as formative influences, but find that these detours occasionally spoil the mood (no pun intended).

I think, after two listens, that I slightly prefer Time Flies to Mood; the first song, alone, is just magnificent, and the stylistic detours I mention are especially good detours. I mean, listen to this one:

http://dbhmusic.bandcamp.com/track/climb-and-descend

xpost thanks chinaski & thanks for sharing that's a nice quote & well said

i think i tend to agree w/you on DBH, the little more experimental pieces are fine, but i would say that there are very many people who do things in that vein just as well but his guitar playing, guitar tone and general compositional voice is very singular and special

that said maybe all these guys feel like they have to shake things up to avoid the pitfalls of becoming too trad or just elevator music

yeah i kinda like the eclectic approach

I think the variety of Mood makes the stronger tracks/melodies stand out more, honestly. Distinct moments become more eventful and the album has a more identifiable flow to it overall. He isn't exactly mid period Bibio either, I feel like despite the variety there isn't any "mood" ruining or overly jarring shifts in sound or genre.

Bibio is an interesting mention. I wonder how he fits into this? A lot of discussion about him centers on his production (which would be the common thread from his lo-fi start to his more electronic albums) but I think there are some great acoustic numbers on a lot of his albums:

(tried to find youtube of 'bewley in white' to put here but could only find a cover version so you'll just have to imagine it/sing it in your head)

xp I definitely don't want it to appear I'm slagging him off or anything. I'm actually a pretty tough crowd when it comes to the glut of solo guitar players these days, and I've been listening to nothing but dbh for the past three hours; I think he's terrific. He's a really unique and distinctive player, and that's a quality that comes across most in his solo guitar tunes (no mean feat; I certainly wouldn't want to submit to a guitar soli blindfold test). I just don't think the banjo, piano, or electric songs are quite as distinctive. That's fine. There's plenty of solo guitar pieces on these two records to keep me interested.

somehow i've never seen this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEhpk7i_1w4

AND, from the uploader:

happycyclings 3 years ago
I contacted the guy who originally uploaded these and he told me there were plans to release the whole thing. So the whole show still exists somwehere in the universe.

it comes to the glut of solo guitar players these days

i think it's hard to say if there's more or just getting more attention, also like i dunno is there a glut of rock bands? rappers? jazz saxophonists?

Well, there's a glut of everything, I guess, or seems to be, but it certainly seems like guitar soli is a "thing" at the moment, and the fact that a lot of these guys and gals are in their early twenties leads me to believe this is a newer phenomenon rather than something that was happening all along when suddenly NPR discovered it or whatever

The cynic in me feels like any halfway talented indie rocker can tune an acoustic to DADGAD and spend a few months on the sofa studying Fare Forward Voyagers and come out with a reasonable facsimile, which is why I think you hear a lot of people aping Fahey and not a ton aping Kottke. As long as I'm being cynical, I feel the same way about contemporary doom metal: much easier to turn it up to 11 and let the guitars drone in C through expensive Orange amplification than try to figure out what the hell Death or Atheist were doing. I'm not suggesting that doom metal (or American Primitive) provides the easiest entry point for the charlatan, but...well, maybe that's what I am saying, but I certainly don't want to generalize, or shortchange any of the great players in these subgenres. It just gets difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff sometimes.

I get what you're saying in the sense that, like say the Color Field Painting movement of abstract expressionism, the "anyone can do it" criticism becomes more of a thing where its up to the listener to determine what subtle details suggest the artist has an original approach/vision/intention. And those details are definitely more subtle than they might be when you're looking at genres that aren't as niche or restricted in their ingredients/recipes.

my girl and I have been loving mood today; thanks for that