what was the coolest band/artist you were into when you were 17?

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Coolest? Like most indie? Or most obscure? Or best?

Dominique, Monday, 12 September 2016 13:26 (seven years ago) link

xxxp: Oh, I forgot I was getting into Zorn around this time too, thanks to Mr. Bungle. I had Spy Vs. Spy and one of the first two Filmworks records. I didn't like them much though.

how's life, Monday, 12 September 2016 13:28 (seven years ago) link

(significantly less funk-metal than expected)

how's life, Monday, 12 September 2016 13:30 (seven years ago) link

When I was 17, I listened exclusively to Led Zeppelin. So, probably Led Zeppelin, then.

(It was around the age of 19-20 when I went through my brief fugue of paying attention to contemporary music - Mr. Bungle, Man or Astroman?, Brainiac, Tortoise.)

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Monday, 12 September 2016 13:35 (seven years ago) link

Spy Vs. Spy also had a Phish connection, since they had mentioned Ornette Coleman in a few interviews. But it was difficult to square that with Zorn's takes on the songs. They were more in line with my punk sensibilities, which I wasn't really cultivating at the time. At any rate, it felt like something I was supposed to like.

how's life, Monday, 12 September 2016 13:38 (seven years ago) link

Mr Bungle (which I read about in the coolest magazine, People), or Beastie Boys or De La Soul, as far as new music that wasn't necessarily mainstream when I was 17. But also XTC, Funkadelic, Primus, post-Pet Sounds Beach Boys. And yeah stuff like Led Zeppelin, Queen, Beatles. But then it's also the year that Nirvana broke, so not sure how to answer this question.

Dominique, Monday, 12 September 2016 13:43 (seven years ago) link

1990-1991: Color Me Badd?

Cool around my way was Violator, Pretty Hate Machine, Violent Femmes, Jane's Addiction, and They Might Be Giants "Flood". It was the year before Florida raves spread. Soho "Hippychick" was a fave.

Until 1994, the closest I got to raves was when Lisa Stansfield and Black Box led to Simon Harris led to 808 State and LFO. Radio mixes and video obscurities on BET.

I found lasting taste @ 17 listening to the samples within Hip-Hop (Granddaddy I.U. leads to "I'm Your Puppet", Candyman's Knockin' Boots led to Betty Wright, etc..). Then saw Alvin Ailey's For 'Bird' - With Love on PBS, and discovered Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie "A Night in Tunisia" and "The Song is You". Recorded it for the Gang-Starr sample (Manifest), but in the end, that broadcast changed my life.

PappaWheelie V, Monday, 12 September 2016 13:50 (seven years ago) link

I turned 17 in December 1988, so...1989 I was into Big Black, Borbetomagus, Einstürzende Neubauten (saw them the first of 4 times that summer), electric Miles (had On the Corner on vinyl), Pussy Galore (saw them live in L.A. summer of '89), Tad, the Rollins Band, the Residents (saw the Cube-E tour), but also really into Ministry, Jane's Addiction, and Sonic Youth. Also Public Enemy (saw them in '88 and again in '90, the second time with Anthrax), Big Daddy Kane (who opened for PE in '88), Eric B. & Rakim, and Ice-T.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 12 September 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link

1990? the waterboys
haha

Cosmic Slop, Monday, 12 September 2016 16:03 (seven years ago) link

Spacemen 3, Funkadelic, the Beach Boys

which are, perhaps predictably, still generally the troika I cite as my favorite all-time acts

Οὖτις, Monday, 12 September 2016 16:08 (seven years ago) link

Haino and Fushitsusha probably. Though I was out of my depth a bit, it was just too cool for school for me.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 12 September 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link

Stuff you've never heard of.

emil.y, Monday, 12 September 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link

I preferred their demos emil.y

Cosmic Slop, Monday, 12 September 2016 16:37 (seven years ago) link

Utah Phillips.

banjoboy, Monday, 12 September 2016 17:10 (seven years ago) link

MBV probably

rip van wanko, Monday, 12 September 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link

I really liked Tom Waits, I guess that was the most faux-bohemian I ever felt. 17 was an incredibly important music year for me but it definitely wasn't the coolest: I loved shit like the Wrens, the Clientele, Built to Spill - a lot of indie rock. Maybe it was the edgiest though - I never liked Boredoms, Grouper or the Books more than I did that year.

Even if I knew less stuff, I think I was pretty cool for a 15 year old: Modest Mouse, Pavement, LCD Soundsystem, Yeezy, Deerhunter, Beach Boys. I'm not nearly as into indie stuff like I was then but I was discovering new incredible things every day. My mind was getting blown on a weekly basis.

carly reagan jepsen (2011nostalgia), Monday, 12 September 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link

Stuff you've never heard of.

― emil.y, Monday, September 12, 2016 9:35 AM (fifty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this isn't too far off

"coolest" being subjective, my friends and i were preoccupied with being in projects/bands and actually making interesting music and collaborating with cool/interesting musicians. a lot of the nonmusicians we met spent a lot of time talking about 'cool music' and made it a point to justify how cool they were by making them sound 'up and coming' enough, but not quite 'selling out' or mainstream, which for my probably pretentious friends and self was a waste of time

F♯ A♯ (∞), Monday, 12 September 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link

dj quik

Spottie, Monday, 12 September 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link

1998... Most of the contemporary stuff I was listening to was pretty bad so probably Public Enemy or the Pixies.

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 12 September 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link

Crass and Felt all day long.

scott seward, Monday, 12 September 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link

Don't know which of these are considered cooll by ILM standards but I listened to these artists a lot:

Aphex Twin, Sonic Youth, Amon Tobin, Gyorgy Ligeti, Pavement, Jesus & Mary Chain, Cat Power, Stereolab, Cranes, Pixies, Yo La Tengo, Massive Attack, Modest Mouse, Slowdive.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 12 September 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link

Didn't you like any crap bands?

Bottlerockey (Tom D.), Monday, 12 September 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link

Fran & Anna, Sydney Devine.

― Bottlerockey (Tom D.), Monday, 12 September 2016

You were one cool guy!

Cosmic Slop, Monday, 12 September 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link

In '98 I was 17, so probably Radiohead, The Flaming Lips, Ween, and Negativland. The Dispepsi album was very big in my household.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 12 September 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link

I was pretty much listening to a lot of '70s progressive rock and hard rock stuff. The prog stuff was probably at its least "coolest" at that time.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Monday, 12 September 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link

17 = 1991

Probably Siouxsie and the Banshees. MTV used to play "Kiss Them for Me" quite bit and I thought it was the coolest thing ever. I had never heard of her before.

daavid, Monday, 12 September 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link

i was already on ilm when i was 17, so this is unfortunately extensively documented

a post on thread '11 favourite songs of the moment, fuck' from the era:

pixies - wave of mutilation
david bowie - "heroes"
the fifth dimension - let the sun shine
bob dylan - corrina, corrina
john coltrane - my favourite things
velvet underground - sister ray
beatles - there's a place
department of eagles - no one does it like you
king khan & bbq show - i'll never belong
les georges leningrad - sponsorships
radiohead - you and whose army

scanning thru some other posts i was onto the-dream, clipse, ponytail, grizzly bear, boris, unicorns, jaylib, tyvek, bunchof captured tracks stuff, animal collective, beach boys, rick ross, sunset rubdown, discovery/vampire weekend, destroyer, wu tang (although i got into that much earlier), major lazer, dj quik. standard corny teen p4k reader with a noticeable canadian home bias, shades of budding popism. can't say much has changed, could be worse

flopson, Monday, 12 September 2016 19:31 (seven years ago) link

For me 17 was June 91 -> June 92, so my entire senior year of high school. I was probably into "cooler" music earlier, as 8th and 9th grade was all punk rock, 9th and 10th was golden era hip-hop, but then 10th and 11th was kind of a mixed bag classic rock era (doors, hendrix, zepplin, the dead, parliament).

Seventeen was my full-on alternative rock / 120 Minutes era - Nevermind, Badmotorfinger, Blood Sugar Sex Magick, Ten, Trompe Le Monde, Gish, Loveless (which I didn't really get at the time), Mr. Bungle, and Sailing the Seas of Cheese all came out in like a six month period and this was all I was into at that time, plus Jane's Addiction from the summer before. This led to lots of terrible decisions to buy also-ran grunge era records and to truly believe somewhere out there somebody was combining funk and metal into something greater than the sum of their parts.

joygoat, Monday, 12 September 2016 19:37 (seven years ago) link

from the vantage point of a 40-something person deciding what would be a cool thing for a 17 year old American in 1991-92 to be into: Ornette Coleman (thanks to the movie Naked Lunch)
at the time, what I thought the coolest was: Suede

sarahell, Monday, 12 September 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link

Didn't you like any crap bands?

― Bottlerockey (Tom D.)

Well, every now and then I listened to Velvet Underground & Nico.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 12 September 2016 19:54 (seven years ago) link

But being serious, I was 17 in 2003 so downloading mp3s and exploring and reading about music was pretty easy and that saved me from listening to a ton of crap. I was constantly going through 'phases' of exploring new and old artists. I think the music I heard when I was 16 was actually cooler... that year I remember buying and listening a lot to albums by King Crimson, Can, Arvo Part, Kraftwerk, The Microphones, Boards of Canada, Broken Social Scene and Wilco. I also loved Sigur Ros, Godspeed You Black Emperor and Stars of the Lid though and now I can't find myself putting any of their music.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 12 September 2016 20:02 (seven years ago) link

Depeche Mode

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 12 September 2016 20:05 (seven years ago) link

joygoat's post embodies the cool kid at my school

PappaWheelie V, Monday, 12 September 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link

The coolest album I owned when o was 17 was Joy Division's closer, and I thought it was awful. I listened to Ben Folds Five's Reinhold Messner waaaaaay more often

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Monday, 12 September 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link

1978: the Ramones, Elvis Costello, Talking Heads

Brad C., Monday, 12 September 2016 20:17 (seven years ago) link

The albums I remember buying in 2002 were:

King Crimson - Court of the crimson king
King Crimson - Sleepless: the concise king crimson (compilation)
Can - Tago Mago
Can - Cannibalism 1 (compilation)
Kraftwerk - Man Machine
The Microphones - The glow pt. 2
Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
BSS - You forgot it in people
Mum - finally we are noone
Boards of Canada - Geogaddi
Boards of Canada - In a Beautiful place Out in the Country EP
Sigur Ros - Ágætis byrjun
Stars of the Lid - Tired Sounds of
Pixies - Surfer Rosa
Nirvana - In Utero
Tricky - Maxinquaye
Golden Palominos - Dead Inside
Sarah Mclachlan - Surfacing
DNTEL - Life Is Full Of Possibilities
Four Tet - Pause
Plaid - Double Figure
Low - Things We Lost In The Fire
A Silver Mt. Zion And Memorial Tra-La-La Band - Born Into Trouble As The Sparks Fly Upward <- I remember this one was pretty hard to find back then.
Godspeed You Black Emperor - Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antenna To Heaven

Besides that there were many mp3s and I guess that's where the most shameful selections are since I downloaded pretty much everything I stumbled upon. I think there was a phase were I downloaded lots of punk from bands like New Found Glory, NOFX, bad religion and such which I never really got into. Eventually I found Ramones which sounded pretty stupid back then and it took me almost a decade to appreciate it what they were doing.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 12 September 2016 20:17 (seven years ago) link

The Fall
They're like Pavement except you can't understand them and you're allowed to like them

punksishippies, Monday, 12 September 2016 20:18 (seven years ago) link

I'm not sure it was a 'cool' taste though. I only knew one person who also loved those kind of bands. People really hated when we played our music at parties, I guess that's the opposite of being cool.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 12 September 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link

tool
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riding a display name through (brimstead), Monday, 12 September 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link

*our music: music from our mix cds.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 12 September 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link

cybotron

riding a display name through (brimstead), Monday, 12 September 2016 20:22 (seven years ago) link

wait, with all due respect to crass and felt, psychocandy came out when i was 17 and that kinda beats almost anything when it comes to cool.

scott seward, Monday, 12 September 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link

i felt hella cool being into Clinic and owning the first album on import

riding a display name through (brimstead), Monday, 12 September 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link

Fran & Anna, Sydney Devine.

― Bottlerockey (Tom D.), Monday, 12 September 2016

Fran and Anna went to the same chapel as me when i was a teenager #namedropping

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Monday, 12 September 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link

they still wore the outfits

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Monday, 12 September 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link

bad moon rising/evol comes close too though...

scott seward, Monday, 12 September 2016 20:25 (seven years ago) link

I don't think I've ever liked anything cool, in fact this was about the age where I started to actively avoid talking about music with almost everybody around me. I was mostly into dorky modern prog/metal stuff like Isis, Mastodon, The Mars Volta, Tool etc. I still am really. I think I heard Cardiacs at 17 which was probably fucked my musical sensibilities forever.

ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 12 September 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link

This was 82/83. I was into so much relatively music back then. Including artists who I had been familiar with for a little but whose catalogs I was still discovering: Joy Division, a bit of Throbbing Gristle, some Sun Ra Arkestra, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Human League, X, XTC, Twilight 22 (brand new, of course), Velvet Underground, Shannon (but I didn't actually know her by name, so not sure that counts). Less sure of what older bands loomed especially large for me at the time aside from VU. 82/83 was a transition to being less snooty about pop and dance music, so random electro tracks and things like that made an impression.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 12 September 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link

okay, so, psychocandy, evol, new day rising all day long. and crass and felt. and i don't even want to think about how many times i played my "how soon is now" 12-inch. TOO many times. wait, low-life too...

scott seward, Monday, 12 September 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link

(Did not know the term "electro" at the time.)

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 12 September 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link

2000. I was starting to get away from black metal and into stuff like Stereolab, Kraftwerk, Steve Reich, electro music, some older industrial stuff like Chrome and Cabaret Volatire. I didn't think of it as "cool", though, because everyone was into the Bloodhound Gang and Alien Ant Farm.

larry appleton, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 04:04 (seven years ago) link

When I was 17, it was a very good year: Tonight's the Night and Zuma, Highway 61 and Let It Bleed, Heavy Cream and The Worst of the Jefferson Airplane. (And Al Stewart, and Alan Parsons' Edgar Allan Poe record, and, um, you don't want know.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 04:12 (seven years ago) link

1987 - Husker Du "Warehouse Songs and Stories" + "Zen Arcade", Black Flag "Damaged" + "My War", Maiden "Somewhere in Time", Metallica "Master of Puppets", The Cult "Electric", G'n R "Appetite for Destruction" and tons of classic rock. I also probably got into The Ramones and Sex Pistols and other punk around the same time. I can't remember when I saw my first punk show as it might have been early '88, but it was Dag Nasty at the No Bar and Grill when "Wig Out at Denkos" was their new record.

earlnash, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 04:32 (seven years ago) link

A couple years later Doug Carrion of Dag Nasty worked at a Tracks records in Bloomington and that dude turned me onto a bunch of stuff like Gang of Four and P-Funk.

earlnash, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 04:34 (seven years ago) link

One thing I should point out for period correctness, I had all this stuff on tape. I had a bitchin' set of tapes. I was way too big a dope to actually buy it on vinyl or actually own a CD player yet. I didn't get a CD player for a year or so later.

earlnash, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 04:38 (seven years ago) link

I also wish I had better taste back then. Most of the bands I listened to back then I still enjoy to some degree so I guess some of them were decent or my taste didnt evolve that much.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 04:55 (seven years ago) link

I guess this thread is only for people that had fully developed tastes and knowledge at 17.

― Evan

on consideration i guess liking led zeppelin _does_ qualify as "fully developed tastes and knowledge". everything since then has been gravy.

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 05:29 (seven years ago) link

Depends what "cool" means but I was mostly listening to then-current "indie" music so stuff like shoegaze/baggy/fraggle/other ridiculous NME genre names. My favourite band was the Pixies who had just broken up. Most of that stuff isn't really considered cool apart from maybe some of the shoegaze stuff. Spacemen 3 were mentioned upthread that's not a bad shout I suppose.

I had Kick Out The Jams on tape, but I dunno how cool the MC5 are these days.

Is rave nostalgia still a thing? Maybe some of the rave stuff we used to listen to - they were my mate's mixtapes so I never actually knew who did any of the music, so probably doesn't count. tbh I was kind of getting out of dance music at that age. That was more of an early teenage obsession for me.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 13:46 (seven years ago) link

This was like 2002/2003, so I was mostly listening to stuff from the burgeoning mashup scene (or Bootleg/Bastard Pop as it was known then) like Go Home Productions and other stuff that was being posted on the likes of Boom Selection and GYBO. And I was listening to the early recording of some guy named Neil.

So in other words, nothing cool.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link

seems like "what was the coolest band/artist you were into when you were 13?" would be more interesting, or more fun anyway

― erudite beach boys fan (sheesh), Monday, September 12, 2016 8:55 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is true because the idea that something is "cooler" than something else probably only makes sense to a 13 year old

(not trying to be facetious)

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link

Coolest album I bought when I was 13 was Massive Attack but I didn't really listen to anything but Teardrop, I just saw that singing phoetus video on MTV and loved it. 3 years later or so I finally listened to the rest and was mindblown.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:34 (seven years ago) link

I guess Nirvana, Cafe Tacuba and Smashing Pumpkins were the 'cool' bands I listened to when I was 13. Either that or the Vengaboys and Aqua.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:35 (seven years ago) link

mine was probably a new kids on the block record/tape or something i don't even remember

thought i was pretty bad ass

hangin' tough

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link

at 13...hmmm, maybe Run DMC? And I liked "Perfect Way" by Scritti Politti. Not even sure I owned any records at that point.

Dominique, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link

i was 17 in '94 = blues explosion, velvet underground, can, black sabbath, stereolab, sonic youth, nirvana, beastie boys, sebadoh

Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link

when i was 8 my favourite two bands were xtc and the cure, favourite album pornography ^_^

imago, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link

I was 13 in 1992, which is when I went from Gr 8 to Gr 9, i.e. elementary to high school. I don't think any of the rock music I listened to was that cool in elementary school but I distinctly remember going up a little in the estimation of the other guys in Gr 9 science class because I owned Badmotorfinger. Classic Yes and Moving Pictures were probably the least cool.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:47 (seven years ago) link

damn i when i was 17 i was obsessed with bitches brew and close to the edge and im still obsessed with them... fucking depressing :(

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link

13 for me was the Replacements, the Clash, Husker Du, R.E.M., Velvets, MC5, Moby Grape, the Jam, U2, '60s garage (the '80s Rhino Nuggets compilations -- "The Hits," "Punk," "Pop," etc. -- had just come out), and my first foray into Who bootlegs (Philly '73).

Discovered all of the above within a 3-4 month period. Good times.

17 was Public Enemy, De La Soul, Green, and Sonic Youth, but mostly dominated by a Kinks obsession that lasted a solid 18 months.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:54 (seven years ago) link

When I was 17, I liked Spoon, Arcade Fire, and the Hold Steady--all bands that were cool then but are apparently lame now.

I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link

The Hold Steady are definitely not lame

Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 21:01 (seven years ago) link

I agree, just noting the movement of cool away from indie rock over the last decade (not that there's anything wrong with this)

I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link

13? i listened to mostly chart music from the radio, which these days i guess would make me a super-cool poptimist but in reality i just wasn't aware of the existence of anything other than chart music (and it's not like the late '80s were a golden age for chart music). i had a tape of def leppard's "hysteria", i loved that record a lot. and i was really bugging my mom to let me buy "appetite for destruction", which she did finally relent on.

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link

i had both of those records

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 21:52 (seven years ago) link

Hmm, coolest? Public Image Limited, and Kraftwerk.

Least cool? Ummm... oh the phone is ringing..

Mark G, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 22:12 (seven years ago) link


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