ILM's Now For Something Completely Different... 70s Album Poll Results! Top 100 Countdown! (Part 2)

I'd like to think everyone would vote for those anyway within the spirit of the poll.

I think the best place to start is by deciding on which genres to allow in keeping with previous polls (AKA 1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll!) before eliminating individual acts within that.

Anything 'heavy' , 'punky' 'noisy' 'weird' 'Funk/soul', 'jazz', 'experimental' 'psychedelic' , 'prog'

Not trying to naysay but I think your 70s poll was p much perfect and any new decade polls will only serve to tarnish your legacy as a poster

lol 'legacy'

btw there would be a tracks poll so we wouldnt be so militant in that. Plus a tracks poll should be great for having lots of garage rock in it!

Looking forward to the poll. How are you going to handle Brill Building/girl group/Atlantic soul/Nuggets that most people know from comps and greatest hit collections that came out after the 60s?

fuck knows, lol. We can worry about that in 6 months when the poll happens I guess.

Anything soul or jazz will count. Garage rock will definitely count.

Most of the girl groups were more singles based right? That would make for an awesome tracks poll for sure.

May even try persuade stirmonster to not veto anything for the tracks poll and just let everything in.

I'm guessing there are hundreds of great 60s R&B albums, I don't know what they are, though, the received wisdom re: albums being only good after Marvin/Stevie "rebelled" against their labels is pretty stupid sounding, imo.

labels

meters, bar-kays, booket t & the m's for starters

hot buttered soul was the 60s, sly and the family stone - stand, otis redding

Nerry Gordy of Motown wasnt big on albums though, its true

I'm thinking more early 60a, it's whole undiscovered territory for me personally. I just don't buy the whole "albums sucked until the Beatles put some thought in them" crap.

And damn, I know there must be tons of amazing blues full lengths from the 1960s made by old ass dudes..

Hot Buttered Soul is so great. I hope Isaac Hayes got some sort of congressional/presidential medal before he died

Jazz albums were fantastic since the 50s so its bullshit about albums sucked until Rubber Soul as put about by some people

seems like a decent place to start

http://tinyurl.com/60s-Soul-albums-RYM

I suppose I'm really thinking about just "pop" music.. Jazz and classical have always ruled and will always rule inna long form style. Beatles albums before rubber soul still get massive plaudits whereas Motown/r&b of the same time get the whole "singles plus filler" rep.

pop critics are just as snobby as rock critics when you get down to it.

how many times have you been asked what is your fave bands/album/drummer/etc and you get the reply "oh but that's jazz" as if it shouldnt count

Should these be barred from nominations?
They never win polls but are always in top 20s

Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland
Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced?
The Doors - The Doors

they are wonderful albums

they are, but so are the others people want excluded as they are always in the top 20s

had a suggestion to ban the top 20 or 30 from here
http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/1960-69a.htm

feel it would be harsh to ban king crimson as thats their only 60s album plus they were in 70s poll.

I think maybe prevent the top 20 or 30 from being nominated except for those who were in the 70s poll + no ban on jazz/soul or stooges/mc5 ?

Ive pretty much decided on that btw

sorry for slow response. yes, totally up for this and am going to mull over and consult with cosmic slop on how best to do this without pissing off absolutely everyone who might participate.

don't ban anything imo, just celebrate when like sgt pepper ends up at 89 or something

if you dont ban anything you piss off johnny fever and people who moan about 60s lists all being the same.

If you ban the beatles etc you piss off those fans of those

we need to find a way to piss them all off equally!

For me, if the poll covers psychedelia then Revolver and Sgt. Pepper should definitely be allowed (and Satanic Majesties for the Stones). If it's an anti-canon poll then fair enough but you'd have to exclude a lot of other stuff (definitely the Velvets and Trout Mask Replica).

I agree that banning should be banned. I like to see how ILM's consensus overlaps with or diverges from the mainstream. Very excited for a 60s poll!

Also, just listened to the 70s poll winner, which I had no awareness of at all - it's fantastic! Back to metal now.

if you dont ban anything you piss off johnny fever and people who moan about 60s lists all being the same.

Hang on, the only reason I made tactical suggestions is because the concept of pre-banning things had already been brought up. That's not my usual m.o. I only did it for the Alt-70s album poll simply so we wouldn't have a rehash of the original poll.

I only did it for the Alt-70s album poll simply so we wouldn't have a rehash of the original poll.

And Fleetwood Mac still won, so ILM is gonna ILM all day.

haha

there's no previous ILM 60s poll to leave out the top 100, is there?

Beatles, Beach Boys, Dylan, Stones would need to be barred to avoid the alt-70s poll scenario.

Sadly there's no actual Rolling Stone or Mojo best albums of the 60s list to leave off nominations.

now metal poll is over I have time (and several months) to discuss this over with stirmonster. He can play bad cop.

Oh yeah nothing by The Who I guess

― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, September 10, 2016 2:50 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'd argue against this mainly because Tommy is the only '60s Who record that regularly shows up on BEST OF WHATEVER lists. I've seen Sell Out once or twice, but never My Generation or A Quick One.

Ban Tommy, not the Who.

When is Quadrophenia from? cuz thats gotta go too if its the 60s otherwise I agree with you

it may just end up with stirmonster and I arbitrary cutting albums, everyone can have a moan but bad cop will stand firm

but defo no beatles or beach boys or dylan. I dont mind satanic majesties being allowed tho i wouldnt vote for it

Quadrophenia is from 1973.

i dont want to ban too much tho so it will be those acts plus albums that always make the top 10 or 20 which sadly means vu & nico, forever changes, trout mask replica

my fave who is Sell Out was never keen on anything after 1970

No Beatles
No Beach Boys
No Dylan
No Hendrix

Only Rolling Stones album allowed - Their Satanic Majesties Request

Albums Banned:

Van Morrison - Astral Weeks
The Who - Tommy
Velvet Underground - VU & Nico
Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band
Love - Forever Changes
The Doors - The Doors

I'm not sure much else needs banned. I checked up several lists and those are the ones that appeared on them all.

Im fine with anything else placing.

And fwiw Forver Changes is my fave album of all time so there's no bias here. Only Tommy out of those thngs banned I dont like.

that should read Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band - Trout Mask Replica

While you are sorting out the details of the 60s poll, why don't you check out

LET'S GET IT ON! It's the ~~~ 1970s SOUL ALBUMS POLL ~~~ NOMINATIONS AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD

oooohhh awesome!! thanks for the heads up!

Cor, what a magnificent poll. Did one happen for the 80s/90s? Finds for tonight: Agitation Free and the Groundhogs' Split.

yes there was an 80s poll which ran before this one.

The ILM 1980s Anti-Rolling Stone Canon (FREE PUSSY RIOT) Rock Poll Results - ALBUMS! Top 20! ends today

we are going back the way for some reason.

No idea if there will ever be a 90s one but you never know in a year or 2 but first things first and while I suppose we could open noms soon if people want , we still wouldnt be starting voting til feb or march.

that's for the 60's poll I mean obviously

Hold off on the noms alright...jeez louise. I didnt know you were planning on starting right back up

(Obv if others want to start, then do it. Thats only my singular opinion.)

I wasn't intending on starting noms (unless loads ask me to but the voting still wouldn't start til feb/march regardless.
its been a few years waiting to run so another few months wont hurt