I nearly lost my shit the other day when I thought I heard an S3 clip being used in a commercial and then I realized it was just some dumb song w a drum loop sampled from "I Love You"
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 September 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link
If anyone's in the US, there are a bunch of new copies on Amazon Marketplace that come to like $15 w/ shipping which is prob 8-10 cheaper than you'll pay getting it shipped from the UK.
― laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 9 September 2016 12:05 (seven years ago) link
i had no idea about this - gonna order a copy now!
― a very in-your-face, hard-edged machine bottom (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 September 2016 14:06 (seven years ago) link
Read Will's book in one sitting - yes it's that great.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 23 September 2016 02:12 (seven years ago) link
Got my copy the other day but I'm going to save it for a trip here in a couple of weeks. Figure it'll be the perfect timekiller.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 September 2016 03:04 (seven years ago) link
short extract here:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/sep/26/spacemen-3-will-carruthers-playing-the-bass-extract
― heaven parker (anagram), Monday, 26 September 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link
Humblebrag ahead...
So I finally tracked down the Rosetta Stone for this sort of thing… pic.twitter.com/gYCrR0ptva— Chris Barrus (@quartzcity) July 2, 2018
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 01:59 (five years ago) link
nice!
― sleeve, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 02:17 (five years ago) link
that's awesome
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
jealous
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
i've read the writing on the wall
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link
A couple days ago, all of Spacemen 3 (except for the Losing Touch With Your Mind comp) disappeared off of Apple Music. I wondered what was up and then I learned that Spacemen 3's old manager (and sole corporate officer of Adasam Ltd.) and Apple are being sued for pirating hundreds of recordings that he falsely claimed licenses to.
https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/apple-hit-with-lawsuit-by-songwriter-heirs-for-allegedly-running-a-massive-music-piracy-operation/?fbclid=IwAR3SLF3-vctvj0P0EbU-e1S3y8pxzXeZjnEQ7H8zLMM1DEZXwAKBxZo8v1w
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 11 May 2020 03:12 (three years ago) link
Holy shit at that -- but also how perversely appropriate that S3's stuff gets caught in yet ANOTHER weird legal zone.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 May 2020 03:51 (three years ago) link
Is this the same guy that runs Spaceage records who Jason and Pete both hate?
― Cow_Art, Monday, 11 May 2020 04:55 (three years ago) link
unutterably shite
― i am a horse girl (map), Monday, 11 May 2020 05:05 (three years ago) link
the arts centre live piece where the band were so munted that the bass player forgot to turn on his amp, and the PA keeps announcing the screening time for "Wings of Desire", is one of my all time favourite records.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 11 May 2020 05:35 (three years ago) link
Are they on any other streaming services?
They only have one song on Spotify and that's only because it's on MGMT's Late Night Tales comp
― groovypanda, Monday, 11 May 2020 09:24 (three years ago) link
Yeah. Will's book talks about the shit stuff he was doing back then. The guy who hired me into the music industry once told me "an idiotic and ignorant t-shirt salesman has no business managing an important band." I never forgot that...
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 11 May 2020 09:29 (three years ago) link
Anyway, my hope is that Adasam will be so far in the fucking hole with insolvency that SP3 can finally get their own music back. Crazy year gets crazier...
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 11 May 2020 09:31 (three years ago) link
cosigned
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 11 May 2020 09:40 (three years ago) link
Maybe a perfect band for an ILX covers album.
― Maresn3st, Monday, 11 May 2020 12:15 (three years ago) link
Are they on any other streaming services?They only have one song on Spotify and that's only because it's on MGMT's Late Night Tales comp― groovypanda, Monday, May 11, 2020 5:24 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― groovypanda, Monday, May 11, 2020 5:24 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Same on Amazon Music and Tidal.
― punning display, Monday, 11 May 2020 13:15 (three years ago) link
> the arts centre live piece
> an idiotic and ignorant t-shirt salesman
ironically, the person who first put out an extract from the contemporary sitar music thing went on to sell t-shirts on a my bloody valentine tour (one of the che / cheree people, can't remember which)
― koogs, Monday, 11 May 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link
Nick Allp0rt, perhaps.
― Maresn3st, Monday, 11 May 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link
yeah, i mail ordered stuff from him a few times and he said once he was taking a few month off to tour with mbv. the spacemen3 thing was initially a flexi (5"?) shared with 2 other bands, but is now part of the Dreamweapon lp.
― koogs, Monday, 11 May 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link
I wonder if that's the same item with a really early (and pretty terrible) Bark Psychosis tune.
― Maresn3st, Monday, 11 May 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link
yes, clawhammer. and the third band was the fury* things.
* not furry things
― koogs, Monday, 11 May 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link
BTW in addition to being SP3's old manager, the Adasam guy was also Bark Psychosis' manager. Graham Sutton has been at war with him for a long time and also recommend that people *not* buy the Record Store Day re-release of Independency.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 01:27 (three years ago) link
Gerald Palmer is the guy that runs Spaceage, that's who I assumed you guys were talking about. He's the one that reissues Spacemen 3 albums and the band discourages people from buying them.
Would love to see a fine remastered Sp3 box set, but I can't imagine it happening.
― Cow_Art, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 04:11 (three years ago) link
I guess they have multiple people sponging off of them.
Sonic Boom has a new album coming out this year! Three videos are on youtube. They're okay? I want to like them more than I do.
― Cow_Art, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 04:29 (three years ago) link
Bassman weighs in on Palmerhttps://petespacemanbassman.wordpress.com/2020/05/16/the-blues-according-to-adasam-and-apple/
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 17 May 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRyie8Z1-hA
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 16 July 2020 11:26 (three years ago) link
^^ awesome.
Norman Recs just mailed out they have new, limited (no idea how limited) coloured vinyls of a lot of SP3/Spectrum/Spiritualized releases https://www.normanrecords.com/promos/605 (all by Space Age Recordings)
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 16 July 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link
Now on Spotify!
― chonky floof (groovypanda), Sunday, 26 July 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link
The Space Age Spacemen 3 vinyl reissues are bad news. Bad pressings.
Fucked Up Inside reissue is great and highly recommended.
― Cow_Art, Sunday, 26 July 2020 13:11 (three years ago) link
XP HOLY SHIT I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS DAY FOR LIKE 9 YEARS, AAAAAAAAA I AM SO EXCITED
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 26 July 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link
It's not all their albums tho but still better than nothing and does have Forged Prescriptions which has the glorious full length version of Ecstacy Symphony
― chonky floof (groovypanda), Sunday, 26 July 2020 15:31 (three years ago) link
honestly I'm just going to be stuck listening to "Big City" on repeat so I'm fine with that
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 26 July 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link
Just seeing their stuff on Spotify now. I see the first two albums are missing but “Taking Drugs” and “Forged Prescriptions” are there. Is that just a rights thing or do the band/fans consider these to be the more definitive documents of that era?
Separate but related question - as someone who has never heard those early albums (especially Perfect Prescription), am I gonna get a diluted/distorted vision of the band if I start with these?
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 31 July 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link
Of those available, I would start with Playing With Fire
― Mule, Friday, 31 July 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link
Listen to all of it because it’s all good. Taking Drugs is a collection of demos that got them a deal with Glass Records. I think Glass still owns the rights to those first two albums which is why SOC and Perfect Prescription aren’t on Spotify. Taking Drugs is great, the versions are rawer than SOC in a very good way. I’d start there to get a sense of where S3 started (Stooges/Cramps/MC5).
Forged Prescriptions collects the original recordings of songs that wound up on PP but for the most part they are not demos. They initially recorded these songs with lots of overdubs and studio trickery but decided not to go that direction because they wouldn’t be able to replicate it live. The FP version of Walking With Jesus is incredibly beautiful.
― Cow_Art, Friday, 31 July 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link
Dreamweapon has now been added!
― chonky floof (groovypanda), Friday, 31 July 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link
― Cow_Art, Friday, July 31, 2020 bookmarkflaglink
Thanks, I think this answers my question. I will listen to it all of course - I was just trying to understand if there was some revisionism going on based on what they were making available. Like, Forged Prescriptions is not the director's cut.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 31 July 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link
Correct. It’s sort of an alternate version of the album that has been cobbled together. I like many of the FP versions as much as their PP counterparts, and they are different enough to be worth seeking out. But those versions never cohered into a finished album which is where PP succeeds. Sonic considers FP to be the ultimate version of that material fwiw.
BTW, supposedly the master tapes for PP were lost long ago. All digital versions are sourced poorly. Sonic has said that FP is as close as we will get to a proper remaster of PP. Fucking stoners.
― Cow_Art, Friday, 31 July 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link
I would say Playing w Fire is their "best" but that Recurring is my "favorite" and that also Dreamweapon: An Evening of Contemporary Sitar Music is fucking incredible even if there not actually any sitar on it lmao
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 1 August 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link
I love this band but getting a handle on how their discography all fits together has always been so goddamn confusing
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Saturday, 1 August 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link
I bought Sound of Confusion when it first released and have no idea how it all fits together either lol
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 1 August 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link
I've spent thirty years trying to figure it out and I still quite can't. But I'm glad I've got everything one way or another.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 1 August 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link
Nice piece by Will here about An Evening of Contemporary Sitar Music
― chonky floof (groovypanda), Saturday, 1 August 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link
SP3 is my favorite band, I've worked for Bomp, worked with Sonic, even have my name on a couple of releases - but I don't even know where to start with this. I suppose it's erroneous to consider any track to be the final/definitive version of itself and more of a snapshot of where it's at. There's hours of outtakes from all four albums - no extra songs, but plenty of differing directions something could have takes: real drums vs. drum machine, reverse reverb or not, lyrical changes, etc. etc.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 1 August 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link