man that is not my cup of tea
feel like rod can phone in some boogie rock way way better than mccartney ever could
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 September 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link
this song sounds like a bar band covering an aerosmith b-side
― calstars, Friday, 9 September 2016 01:00 (seven years ago) link
Yeah it's pretty good
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 September 2016 12:38 (seven years ago) link
Almost forgot!
"Drift Away" (Mentor Williams)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB9PYLEVp_Y
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 September 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link
yes THAT "Drift Away"
oh no that breakdown in the last chorus
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 9 September 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link
(and then it gets worse after that)
in tidal, he is credited in this song, and only this song, as "rod steward"
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 9 September 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link
to wash the taste of all of this out of my mouth, i skipped ahead to tomorrow's song, which i guess is illegal to talk about today, but at least i know there are better days ahead.
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 9 September 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link
agreed
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 September 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link
Haven't listened yet, but just want to point out now that "Drift Away" was shortlisted by the Stones for their covers/live album that was shelved in favor of It's Only Rock'n'Roll.
― a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 9 September 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link
listen!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 September 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link
i don't get it is smth wrong with this song?
― niels, Friday, 9 September 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link
it sounds lazy and rote to my ears
― Οὖτις, Friday, 9 September 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link
I loathe the original
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 September 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link
okay, not familiar with the original but can tell from wiki page it's a cover favorite
works on the album, just a nice/silly rocknroll song to my ears
― niels, Friday, 9 September 2016 21:36 (seven years ago) link
i look forward to the revisiting and re-evaluation etc. of the post-'76-not-Tonight-I'm-Yours-material but all the same I'm thinking it might be wise to savour these first two p good albums since in my head (and I'm hoping this thread will prove me wrong) Rod's career p much follows Allmusic's assessment:
(SPOILER ALERT)
http://i.imgur.com/sRrYJsc.png
― niels, Friday, 9 September 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link
also, I never thought much about the Atlantic crossing thing but you all seem knowledgeable - so AC was Rod's breakthrough album in the US?
― niels, Friday, 9 September 2016 22:05 (seven years ago) link
Nah, Every Picture Tells A Story!
― a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 9 September 2016 22:13 (seven years ago) link
AC marked a # of important things: He left England for the States; he signed a very lucrative deal w/Warner Bros.; he ceased working with the core of the Faces in the studio in favor of LA session dudes (and the initial sessions were with a reformed Booker T & The MGs, and were among Al Jackson's final recordings before his murder); and--after Smiler and Ooh LA LA--were the first times critics had knives out.
― a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 9 September 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link
I see, thanks!
― niels, Friday, 9 September 2016 22:37 (seven years ago) link
i was obsessed with Atlantic Crossing as a kid but never ever heard it again since the late 70s. this is going to be a fascinating thread i can tell. he really dropped off the fastest *and* the most didn't he, of all the rockers that got mega in the 70s?
― piscesx, Friday, 9 September 2016 22:45 (seven years ago) link
idk "rockers that got mega in the 70s" is a p long list
― Οὖτις, Friday, 9 September 2016 22:47 (seven years ago) link
i think i meant him, Elton, Queen type mega.
― piscesx, Friday, 9 September 2016 22:49 (seven years ago) link
I don't think he did. Unlike Queen, he kept having American hits, and unlike Elton (who coughed up a handful between 1977 and 1982), his top ten run didn't stop, like, at all from 1975 through 1993. He was a constant MTV and radio presence. He never seemed like a fogey even when he was releasing "Lady Jane" and "Love Touch."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 September 2016 22:57 (seven years ago) link
yeah that's why this era is so interesting, tho i don't know much of the albums. As a kid in the early 80s, Rod didn't seem like some old hippie but rather some lecherous dude who was always on the radio.
i'm with Alfred: the orig. "Drift Away" is a pretty dire song, part of the early 70s "remember real rock 'n' roll, man?" nostalgia binge, without any of the wit. Rod's cover does as much with it as you can---he commits to the thing, a bit too much (but hell so did Dobie Gray). Genteel studio "reggae" was a default setting by '75, it seems
― col, Friday, 9 September 2016 23:32 (seven years ago) link
thank you, Eric Clapton!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 September 2016 23:43 (seven years ago) link
I mean, look at this top ten list through '93:
Do Ya Think I'm Sexy?PassionYoung TurksSome Guys Have All the LuckInfatuationLove TouchMy Heart Can't Tell You NoDowntown TrainThis Old Heart of MineThe Motown SongHave I Told You LatelyAll For Love
That's not counting top fifteen hits that got as much or more airplay (and still do!) like "Forever Young" and a Sirius radio perennial like "People Get Ready" whose massive MTV airplay convinces listeners that it was a huge pop hit.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 September 2016 23:46 (seven years ago) link
yeah Baby Jane, Tonight I'm Yours, the crappy "Twistin' the Night Away" for 'Inner Space' def. seemed to get nearly as much airplay as this set too. I have an awful memory of "Dynamite" too which I'll share when we get to it
― col, Saturday, 10 September 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link
"Forever Young" might be his biggest perennial hit; I hear it ALL the time.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2016 00:07 (seven years ago) link
forgot "Rhythm of My Heart" on that list.
I checked iTunes: "Forever Young" is his most popular song.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2016 00:10 (seven years ago) link
Rod Schlocky Stewart
― calstars, Saturday, 10 September 2016 00:22 (seven years ago) link
"Drift Away": The Dobie Williams original is ime one of those inescapable songs--it was huge on Oldies Radio when I had access to such a thing, and it was one of the few R&B-type oldies that was pretty big on Classic Rock Radio, probably because--message aside--it really isn't that far removed from a Seger or Mellencamp hit. To me it's always been sonic wallpaper. Rod doesn't really add much to this other than some light Reggae touches. Why is this on "The Fast Side"?
― a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 10 September 2016 01:05 (seven years ago) link
Of course, I'm forgetting that Uncle Kracker (with Dobie in tow, no less) added a couple years of cultural relevancy and higher performance fees to his career by Karaoke-ing this into the charts in the early 00s.
― a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 10 September 2016 01:08 (seven years ago) link
i like the original of "Drift Away" the vocal are so much better. have no idea why Rod redid this song.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 10 September 2016 01:14 (seven years ago) link
He needed to fill the album...and he's not above Karaoke (see: all those "Songbook" albums).
― a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 10 September 2016 01:20 (seven years ago) link
For comparison, here's the Stones' unreleased version: https://youtu.be/tey6tjsq9Vo
More lived-in, some nice Country touches.
― a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 10 September 2016 01:25 (seven years ago) link
that is so much better, isn't it?
― Bee OK, Saturday, 10 September 2016 01:33 (seven years ago) link
whaaaat I had never heard Rod's forever young and consider myself both a p big Rod & Bob fan
decent cover!
― niels, Saturday, 10 September 2016 10:00 (seven years ago) link
"Stone Cold Sober" (Stewart, Steve Cropper)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR3DWqJqiLI
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2016 12:28 (seven years ago) link
By far the best song we've heard to date. Maybe the Cropper co-write helped. This is a convincing rocker.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2016 12:29 (seven years ago) link
btw starting tomorrow I won't post the full YouTube links.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 September 2016 12:30 (seven years ago) link
"stone cold sober" is great. that's how you rock. verse owes something to the rolling stones' "happy." which, if you're gonna owe something, is a good place to owe that something to.
not sure i need the minute and 20 seconds of instrumental at the end (with occasional vocal interjections so buried in the mix they might as well not be there).
― fact checking cuz, Saturday, 10 September 2016 23:29 (seven years ago) link
loving those harmonies
― fact checking cuz, Saturday, 10 September 2016 23:32 (seven years ago) link
"Stone Cold Sober": This is nice, faux-Faces. Kind of begs the question, 'if you're gonna cut tracks like this, why have the session guys play like the Faces when you have access to the real thing?' Woody's first couple solo (I've Got My Own) albums (To) do what Rod's trying to do here on "The Fast Half" but with much more success on all fronts.
Of course, our answer comes once we get into 'The Slow Half' and it's slick, mainstream balladry, which are what really sold this album.
― a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 11 September 2016 03:11 (seven years ago) link
Y'all know this one.
"I Don't Want to Talk About It" (Danny Whitten)
https://youtu.be/Azcy9_F0DCE
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RG9ql-91U90/hqdefault.jpg
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 September 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link
I'm having trouble finding the original 1975 recording; y'all might need to hit Spotify.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 September 2016 14:20 (seven years ago) link
the "Slow Side" defines this album, at least in my vague memory of it. the Fast was, barring "Stone Cold Sober," middling, competent rock that was nowhere as good as the middling mid-70s Stones
Rod pretty much took over this song, no? I always forget it was a Crazy Horse tune. Arif Mardin for the string arr
― col, Sunday, 11 September 2016 14:27 (seven years ago) link
Everything But the Girl scored their biggest UK hit with a lovely cover that I prefer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UujO_YwaB_I
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 September 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link
"I Don't Want To Talk About It": Seems like this is one of the great song rescues. The Crazy Horse version is brilliant, an all-time tear jerker (when David Briggs talked about being more impressed with some Whitten's songs of the time than what Neil Young was doing, this one is almost certainly what he was on about). But it wasn't heard much in it's time. Ol' Rod, still in master song-finder mode, lands on it (has it ever been discussed how he actually got ahold of it?). I can still kind of see the Faces tackling it (pathos looms large in their ballads), but it wouldn't quite be so polished and certainly wouldn't have been the hit it was.
― a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 12 September 2016 03:17 (seven years ago) link