he's not a good writer either tbf
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:23 (two years ago) link
I can't have much of an opinion on something I haven't finished but I doubt most other writers talking about similar things would be treated so well. The interview happened because it was being said too many big figures in the genre were getting a free pass while others were getting a ton of shit for relatively minor things, but nobody really knew a lot about Delany's stance on this stuff. Do you think I'm implying he should be dragged through the dirt for his opinions?
delany isn't a race writer. did you mean "because he's black?"
No, because he wrote some very good articles on racism in the past that have been heavily circulated and praised in the past several years when the topic has been at the forefront of sff discussions.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:42 (two years ago) link
― until the next, delayed, glaciation (map), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 23:40 (two years ago) link
sorry i had my hackles up
― until the next, delayed, glaciation (map), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 23:41 (two years ago) link
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 23:44 (two years ago) link
Happy 75th birthday.
― scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Sunday, 2 April 2017 00:18 (two years ago) link
I'm always scared to open this thread.
― change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 2 April 2017 00:27 (two years ago) link
This thread is v repetitive
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 2 April 2017 01:20 (two years ago) link
In Glasgow for several events during the next Arika eisode:
― Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Sunday, 29 October 2017 14:50 (one year ago) link
Just finished Dhalgren, my first trip into Delany. I really liked large chunks of it, but other portions were definitely a slog. Even aside from the tedious descriptions of underage orgies, it did feel like some of the same plot points just kept cycling through without moving the story forward. But many of the characters were terrifically drawn and I enjoyed his world-building, what's a good next step?
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 13:14 (three months ago) link
I enjoyed Dhalgren alright but somehow that's where I got off the bus, many years ago--several people have told me I should have at least gone on to Stars In My Pocket Like Grains of Sand, and maybe I will, but right now thinking of re-reading his fun, imaginative debutThe Jewels of Aptor, published when he was 19, I think, also should dig up my copy of a chunky drugstore paperback, The Complete Nebula Award-Winning Fiction of Samuel R. Delany. which Amazon describes thusly:Combined edition of two novels and two short stories which won the Nebula Award. Babel - 17 (winner, 1966 Nebula, 1995 James Tiptree, Jr. Award, Classics; nominated, 1967 Hugo Award; 1975 Locus Poll Award, All-Time Best Novel (Place: 36)); A Fabulous, Formless Darkness (original title The Einstein Intersection) (winner, 1967 Nebula Award; nominated, 1968 Hugo Award); Time Considered as a Helix of Semi-Precious Stones (winner, 1969 Nebula Award, 1970 Hugo Award); Aye, and Gomorrah (winner, 1967 Nebula Award; nominated, 1968 Hugo Award) The cheapest (by far) copy they have of this is $24.03, but worth it, if condition is okay. They have a lot more by him.
― dow, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 21:24 (three months ago) link
that sounds like a good 'tracklist' for sure.
You might check out the Neveryon stuff, bronze age fantasy as vehicle for a dive into semiotics. I loved the two of them I read.
Triton is great also.
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 21:27 (three months ago) link
I enjoyed the Neveryon books on rereading a couple of years ago. Reread The Einstein Intersection last year and understood it better than the first time I read it. Nova, Triton, and Stars in My Pocket are all good.
― The Mod Who Banned Liberty Valance (WmC), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 22:47 (three months ago) link
imo triton and stars in my pocket are the masterworks
― the late great, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 23:52 (three months ago) link
Thanks! I think I'm leaning to Stars In My Pocket next, though it may come down to what the library has available.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:36 (three months ago) link