Free Speech and Creepy Liberalism

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"Train" seems like a loaded term here.

two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link

may be triggering for students who were raised in labs

j., Tuesday, 6 September 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

would an 18-year-old really say "you are a credit to your race"

esempiu (crüt), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 02:29 (seven years ago) link

lol yeah that one

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 02:37 (seven years ago) link

someone explain why this isn't the dumbest thing ever

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/sep/6/cal-state-university-la-offers-segregated-housing-/

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:13 (seven years ago) link

i mean, "theme houses" (or "theme hallways" or whatever) are one thing. we had a "womanist" house at my alma mater that comprised all af-am women. but overtly racially segregated housing--that's not at the very least yoked to some kind of collective cultural activity-- seems very, very dumb. but maybe the media hasn't represented this fairly??

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link

it's apparently by demand, classed as an academic community, and has the usual microaggression/safe space rationale. perhaps you recall

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/11/06/black-grad-student-on-hunger-strike-in-mo-after-swastika-drawn-with-human-feces/

from around the time of the mizzou protests

j., Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link

Greek groups have done that (selective group housing) for decades, basically centuries now. Strikes me as a welcome table turn.

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Thursday, 8 September 2016 00:52 (seven years ago) link

(re. similar situ at u-conn)

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 8 September 2016 01:06 (seven years ago) link

also, as far as i know, in the post-civil-rights era, greek orgs are not officially (or practically, in most cases) whites-only

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 8 September 2016 01:07 (seven years ago) link

at UW there are a few af-am frats (and possibly sororities); most of the other frats seem only mildly integrated

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 8 September 2016 01:08 (seven years ago) link

Yeah no Greeks aren't integrated for shit, anywhere in the country.

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Thursday, 8 September 2016 13:53 (seven years ago) link

Casually referring to fraternity and sorority members as "Greeks" is confusing as hell.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 8 September 2016 16:05 (seven years ago) link

just saw a movie where some mild mirth is gotten out of a jew being "president of the greeks"

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 9 September 2016 02:33 (seven years ago) link

Aimless, this is a thread about American college campus issues. Maybe it wasn't at first, but at present, that's the context.

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Friday, 9 September 2016 03:02 (seven years ago) link

http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/09/help-food-insecure-employees/

this is obviously written from the perspective of some kind of nonprofit org mindset but still

j., Monday, 12 September 2016 03:26 (seven years ago) link

is

- don't pay a starvation wage

in the list

flopson, Monday, 12 September 2016 03:28 (seven years ago) link

that's a negative

j., Monday, 12 September 2016 03:34 (seven years ago) link

but there are lots of techniques for being more sensitive to their concerns!

j., Monday, 12 September 2016 03:34 (seven years ago) link

https://medium.com/@ethnicstudies198/an-open-letter-to-the-uc-berkeley-administration-regarding-academic-freedom-1bf60c9a040e#.b4zy83fk8

The decision to suspend Ethnic Studies 198: Palestine: A Settler Colonial Analysis is a violation of our academic freedom. This is an alarming development to have transpire on the same campus that not only hosted the Free Speech Movement, but which also routinely claims and utilizes the same Movement’s legacy to market itself as a world-class institution, a bastion of tolerance and diversity, and the site of intellectual inquiry — inquiry that is sometimes discomforting, but always enriching. Your decision constitutes nothing less than an act of discrimination against students who wanted to debate and discuss this contentious issue in a spirit of genuine sincerity, mutual respect, and open-minded curiosity.

j., Friday, 16 September 2016 02:39 (seven years ago) link

i thought it sounded like shit from the course description but what i really wanted to know is since when do colleges offer classes for credits taught by undergrads? that's bullshit.

Mordy, Friday, 16 September 2016 02:43 (seven years ago) link

Oh, this is the first time I'm hearing about this DeCal business. That is bizarre, you're right.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Friday, 16 September 2016 02:58 (seven years ago) link

i was involved in the program and had friends who were. they're only for a few credits and don't count towards core or departmental requirements, so they're really extra fluff around the edges and have a loooong history at cal going back to the 60s. also giving undergrads an opportunity to organize and teach is a good thing imho.

rip my mensches (s.clover), Monday, 26 September 2016 04:46 (seven years ago) link

http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/09/do-i-have-to-call-my-co-workers-boyfriend-her-master.html

i dunno the ground seems pretty shaky here

j., Wednesday, 28 September 2016 23:28 (seven years ago) link

Shakey Co mollifier

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 23:31 (seven years ago) link

Lol

Treeship, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 23:59 (seven years ago) link

“will your master be at the end-of-summer barbecue?”

goole, Thursday, 29 September 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link

man this one has it all: trump, vandalism, protests, adminstrative support of free speech in abstract, safe spaces, mention of a "bias incident team"

http://www.mndaily.com/article/2016/10/protesters-gather-to-oppose-mural

goole, Monday, 3 October 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link

do they have one of those little golf carts like the people who refill the dry erase markers and reboot projectors

j., Monday, 3 October 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link

sadly article does not mention 'collge republicans'

j., Monday, 3 October 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link

Paul Blart: Bias Incident Cop

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 3 October 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link

has this li'l detail made it into media? from a campus email ~to which i am privy~

Next to the panel for a Latino-based multicultural fraternity was the painting “Build the Wall” by another student group, the Minnesota College Republicans.

phrased with strange passivity as well

goole, Monday, 3 October 2016 20:18 (seven years ago) link

he condemned the vandalization of the painting and said the campus supports all types of free speech

florence foster wallace (difficult listening hour), Monday, 3 October 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link

a painting

fuckin john singer sargeant over here

j., Monday, 3 October 2016 20:22 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

more 'free speech incidents' around here

david horowitz group puts up posters specifically naming students & faculty active in BDS as hamas supporters

http://alphanewsmn.com/poster-campaign-university-minnesota-claims-student-group-front-hamas/

(note -- this website is right wing but it does reproduce the posters which other sites aren't doing)

muslim student association sign defaced with "isis"

http://www.twincities.com/2016/11/03/umn-isis-washington-avenue-bridge-vandalism-muslim-student-association-panel/

both in the last 48 hours

goole, Thursday, 3 November 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link

the U's administration has condemned both

goole, Thursday, 3 November 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link

apparently horowitz pulled this stunt on a bunch of campuses this week. what a creep.

goole, Thursday, 3 November 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link

hamas' puppeteering skills must be next-level

j., Thursday, 3 November 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link

Sure this is the right thread for this, j?

Frederik B, Friday, 4 November 2016 02:13 (seven years ago) link

i'm sure you'll tell me either way

j., Friday, 4 November 2016 02:19 (seven years ago) link

You think sexual harassment is a free speech issue?

Frederik B, Friday, 4 November 2016 02:52 (seven years ago) link

you think this was sexual harassment?

j., Friday, 4 November 2016 03:15 (seven years ago) link

How on earth is this not?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 4 November 2016 09:03 (seven years ago) link

i think victims of harassment have to know it's going on?

j., Friday, 4 November 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link

if my own college exp is anything to go by (lo these many years past) frats and men's sports teams putting together 'bang books' like these is pretty common! can't really fathom the impulse to, like, systematize, write down and then publish your locker room talk. but then again i stayed out of locker rooms entirely until i was in my 30s.

this almost exact thing happened when i was in (small private liberal arts) school. a photocopy of something like this, pics and ratings and comments, leaked. it was a big school controversy but iirc nobody really got punished? maybe some kind of forced apology, then a campus workshop day on women's issues. cancelling the team's season is awesome, shows some guts from the administration.

there is the odd practice of punishing kids within a sport for non-sports related infractions they did -- which leads to some really messed up thinking if the acts become criminal. like, thanks for victimizing me, your 4 game suspension or w/e doesn't really address my life at all.

goole, Friday, 4 November 2016 16:27 (seven years ago) link

xp so it's only a problem when people don't know about it?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 4 November 2016 16:51 (seven years ago) link


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