interesting educational informal podcasts for long car drives?

The History of Rome podcast started out great but the episodes around the end of the Third Punic War have a high pitched whine via Pocket Casts and I had to bail. I need to try with a different app to see if it's the files that Pocket Cast is downloading.

Seconding In Our Time , also A History of the World on 100 Objects.

I wanted to like the Stuff casts but I usually feel like they are just reading a wiki. They are just barely engaging enough to be good for falling asleep to though.