Awesome Audiophile Snake Oil

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depends what i'm doing tho

the only thing that is still tricky for me is monitoring vocals when i'm the one singing

tried a few and couldn't even use the studio's standard headphones they use for monitoring vocals -- forget which ones we were using, but it was a nightmare that basically ruined the entire ep

F♯ A♯ (∞), Monday, 29 August 2016 19:59 (seven years ago) link

I am in possession of samples of both the foil & the cream

update to follow

The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 29 August 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link

Also, his speaker-placement renders the concept of stereo separation mute.

I see what you did there

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 29 August 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

But, nevertheless, subconsciously, we are still attempting to resolve these energy patterns and anything we cannot resolve causes us to remain under tension. Or, we are actually interpreting these (new, strange) energy patterns to mean, ‘danger’, ‘predator’, ‘intruder’ and we therefore remain under tension because we can never resolve them.

the next stage in extreme audiophila is going to be self-help, that is, you can't really expect all your expensive audio components to function well unless you have harmony within yourself. so first you need to start paying for this expensive new-age therapy, and once all of your inner anxieties and neuroses are resolved, we can get to work on your stereo system.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 29 August 2016 20:59 (seven years ago) link

i mean, your brain (and ears) are really the most essential part of any audio set-up, so why would you spend $30,000 on a turntable but any less than that on inner harmony? doesn't make sense, does it?

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 29 August 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link

gotta lube up your brain with the audiophile cream

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 August 2016 21:08 (seven years ago) link

...or, some good reefer.

bodacious ignoramus, Monday, 29 August 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link

you should probably just ram an electrical pole right through your brain, that should do it

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 29 August 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link

i can totally see audiophiles getting fancy ear cleanses just so they can hear sound in its more 'purer form'

this discussion has to have already been brought up on one of the hifi message boards

F♯ A♯ (∞), Monday, 29 August 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link

i mean the biggest impediment to enjoying listening to music is inner distraction... that should really be every audiophile's priority.

perhaps they are being distracted by obsessing over their audio systems, and that is keeping them from hearing the music to its fullest. what then?

http://rob.conery.io/img/2015/09/recursion_title.jpg

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 29 August 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link

imo a lot of this is self-help through retail therapy or externalizing mental anxiety in external phenomena that you then spend time controlling through tweaking

mh 😏, Monday, 29 August 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link

that was my implicit point...

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 29 August 2016 21:35 (seven years ago) link

but if you just fix your brain you don't end up with cool speakers

mh 😏, Monday, 29 August 2016 21:36 (seven years ago) link

Non believers get slathered in cream and covered with stickers

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 August 2016 21:36 (seven years ago) link

sign me up

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Monday, 29 August 2016 21:44 (seven years ago) link

I am in possession of samples of both the foil & the cream

update to follow

― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, August 29, 2016 1:27 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hyped for this

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Monday, 29 August 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link

no doubt

goole, Monday, 29 August 2016 22:05 (seven years ago) link

Sony, really? I had such poor experiences with their gear from the 90s and oughts that i swore off their nameplate completely. Glad you have luck with them, tho.

― bodacious ignoramus, Monday, August 29, 2016 8:45 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Had a terrible midi system from them in the early 90s, and have stayed away from most of their stuff ever since, but they were the only make of walkman-related stuff I'd ever have considered, and I swore by their earphones for years as well.

But yeah. That midi-system, with the shitty turntable and the tape deck that ran too slow. Fuck Sony.

beer say hi to me (stevie), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 07:39 (seven years ago) link

Was in the market for a new set of headphones for in the house so ordered a pair of those Sony 7506's.

michaellambert, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 10:22 (seven years ago) link

The internal grille is in the shape of the Fibonacci pattern, supposedly to ensure minimal sound colouration

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/sony-celebrates-70th-anniversary-by-releasing-high-end-signature-series#y2xHBH0p0qfFIUvD.99

just sayin, Sunday, 4 September 2016 10:04 (seven years ago) link

supposedly

Austin, Sunday, 4 September 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link

who really knows

ǂbait (seandalai), Sunday, 4 September 2016 22:05 (seven years ago) link

We don't know that's exactly why it would be irresponsible NOT to make internal grilles in the shape of the Fibonacci pattern

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 4 September 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link

i prefer true fractals to the fibonacci sequence. fibonacci is a little muddy in the midrange

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Sunday, 4 September 2016 23:23 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/28/13088070/mrspeakers-ether-flow-review-planar-magnetic-headphones

If the recording is perfect, like my copy of Renaud Garcia-Fons’ Mediterranees, you can just sit back and relax, but most modern music isn’t purely acoustic and has a bunch of imperfections and little pieces of aural grit — and the Ether Flows expose every last one of them.

schwantz, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link

A friend of mine is DJing at this place in a couple of weeks...

http://spiritland.com/

Kuzma turntable, Atelier du Triode monoblocs, Living Voice horn speakers. I hope she doesn't mash the stylus.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

I hope she just plugs her iPod shuffle in with an aux cord

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link

stand behind the mixing desk playing through her iphone speaker imo

lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:13 (seven years ago) link

Ha ha. "I'm off for a piss, just keep skipping the ads on Spotify, yeah?"

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:39 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

I started a related thread:
The musical taste of tech reviewers S/D

schwantz, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 01:15 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

https://audiobacon.net/2017/03/16/sotm-dcbl-cat7-review/

This review of a $600 "audiophile Ethernet cable" is fucking incredible. "If you aren’t a complete neophyte to high-end audio, you’ll know that quantitative measurements could only go so far."

the portentous pepper (govern yourself accordingly), Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link

Being so impressed with these cables, I brought them over to my friend’s place with a $60,000 speaker system. He was using generic CAT7 this entire time (He wasn’t embarrassed until after this demo).

the portentous pepper (govern yourself accordingly), Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link

who knew the internet could sound so warm?

Moodles, Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link

Everyone’s setup is different and I would suggest you try cables in various locations and see what you like. Generally, the acoustic traits of the cable closest to the source takes precedence.

lol this is low key amazing, the idea that one part of the signal chain would have a greater influence over the overall output than another, golf clap for that one

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link

Beck – Lost Cause (96/24)
The CAT6 is still very music but not as atmospheric.
CAT6 is much flatter and the bass lacks weight and slam.
The CAT7 made a huge difference in the melody and construction of this song. The intro comes to life with all its intricate sounds.
Very holographic. The CAT6…all of it is smeared together. You really don’t know what you’re missing.

you honestly don't what you're missing until you've heard Beck smeared together into a big hologram

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link

THAT'S NOT HOW DIGITAL WORKS GODDAMNIT

the evening redness at the injection site (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link

I probably missed a Beck "resulting paste" joke there

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link

it's really not how it works

softie (silby), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link

it's not even in the same ballpark with reality

mh, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link

I'm not sure if I want to listen to "Lost Cause" with the bass "slamming," tbqh.

(please no jokes here about not wanting to listen to "Lost Cause" at all, tyvm)

Guy Pidgeotto (Tom Violence), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link

CAT7 made a huge difference in the melody and construction of this song

this is literally true

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link

at least they're appropriately soundtracking the performance of their own disease with that test source

Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link

this has to be a parody

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 1 June 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link

Parity is the least of their problems.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 2 June 2017 01:27 (six years ago) link

- But what about CAT5. what if we made CAT5 carry the same bits at the same time?
- But these are CAT7. </Tufnel>

attention vampire (MatthewK), Friday, 2 June 2017 04:45 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

Am looking to buy an old 1970s amp off eBay, but have read on forums and the like a lot of chatter about pairing certain turntables with certain amps. Is this snake-oil-esque nonsense, or do I really have to tread carefully here?

Senator Luther Strange (stevie), Friday, 11 August 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link

sounds kind of dumb, unless they're talking about newer turntables that have the phono preamp in the turntable rather than relying on that in the amp, as most older ones had

mh, Friday, 11 August 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I think it's kind of people who are "hi-fi experts" indulging their hi-fi expertism. My hearing's pole-axed by two decades of gigs so I just want one that sounds good and has VU meters why because they are KOOL

Senator Luther Strange (stevie), Friday, 11 August 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link

I mean... different things can sound different together but I you gotta remember forum posters are all the type who have loud, violent opinions about what are, to most people, minor differences. I wouldn't sweat it too much.

The Man Who Saw The Midwife (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 12 August 2017 03:25 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Have been scanning various forums to try and remedy some issues with my turntable, which have been discussed on various ILX hi-fi threads passim, but I have broken through into the world of protractors, inner groove distortion and force scale gauges. I have no idea what is snake oil or what is real now, up is down, right is wrong and I am baffled as shit and wishing there were evening classes in Turntable Repair like there used to be for simple car mechanics.

I am a paying customer, who is very cordial and pleasant to talk to (stevie), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 13:24 (six years ago) link


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