Prince Albert Pujols, he reigneth

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eh, he earned that contract, Angels were foolish if they thought they were getting more than 3 decent years out of him

frogbs, Saturday, 27 August 2016 02:51 (seven years ago) link

This could be Cabrera's 12th such season if he picks up the pace a bit in RBI. Never thought any contemporary of Pujols' would surpass his basic slash stats, but Cabrera might.

Pujols: .309/.393/.573
Cabrera: .321/.398/.561

(And just so nobody complains)

Trout: .306/.402/.558

Cabrera still has to tack on three extra years of decline, though, so maybe not. And of course, that's two great fielders and one guy with no defensive value.

clemenza, Saturday, 27 August 2016 02:55 (seven years ago) link

Pujols hasn't remained otherworldly, but he isn't aging too bad for such a big built guy. I can't see why any of these clubs sign anyone for a 10 year guaranteed contract, but if you are going to do such a deal a guy like Pujols or say Votto are probably the better type of players to invest that much cash and time. Hamilton's long deal was the one that was really stupid, as the guy was an injury risk beyond the off the field issues.

The big thing to me is that the Angels minor league system completely fell apart and they had a couple of tough injuries with their young pitchers. Their pitching has been their weakness the past few years even last year when they won a bunch of games.

earlnash, Saturday, 27 August 2016 04:13 (seven years ago) link

This could be Cabrera's 12th such season if he picks up the pace a bit in RBI. Never thought any contemporary of Pujols' would surpass his basic slash stats, but Cabrera might.

Pujols: .309/.393/.573
Cabrera: .321/.398/.561

(And just so nobody complains)

Trout: .306/.402/.558

Cabrera still has to tack on three extra years of decline, though, so maybe not. And of course, that's two great fielders and one guy with no defensive value.

― clemenza, Friday, August 26, 2016 10:55 PM (yesterday)

wow, i just checked and the two have just about identical career wRC+. i figured even with pujols's disastrous last few years he would still have him beat

that said despite cabrera being arguably one of the best...5-7 RH hitters ever, pujols has already attained inner-circle status and cabrera will have to have a bonds-like finish to his career to sniff that

miggy has yet (i think) to single-handedly destroy a pitcher's career the way pujols did with brad lidge

or bartolo did with james shields

mookieproof, Saturday, 27 August 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

eight months pass...

Albert this season kinda proving how empty the RBI can be, statistically speaking:

.238/.276/.363
5 HR
5 2B
12 runs
30 RBI (2nd in AL)
-0.3 WAR

it takes a lot to go from the best player in MLB to the worst but he's trending well...

nomar, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 22:31 (six years ago) link

only 4 more years left on his contract. after this year.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 22:32 (six years ago) link

was he an actual "questionable birthday" guy or was that just good ol'-fashioned racism?

why ruin a good tradition? (Will M.), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link

his ISO is .125, woof

looks like he's going to end up generating around +10 WAR over his 10 year contract

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 22:36 (six years ago) link

ah, 2011:

Well, if you squint hard enough, you might catch a glimpse of early decline in his numbers. His OPS+ has decreased every year since 2008. But I wouldn't want to make too much of that, because he's still playing at a superstar level, and really, who needs statistics when you've got a lot of rumors and hearsay evidence?

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link

proving how empty the RBI can be, statistically speaking

Phrased that way, absolutely agree: "can be," not "is." If you look at the rest of the combined-leagues RBI leaderboard, it's one guy, Travis Shaw, having a good year, and nine other guys having very good to great years, including Zimmerman, Harper, and Goldschmidt (a couple in Colorado, mind you). And there's no mystery to Pujols' bogus total.

clemenza, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 22:44 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Grand slam:

http://m.mlb.com/video/v1462152183

More productive than Thome when he hit his 600th, less productive than Sosa.

clemenza, Sunday, 4 June 2017 04:36 (six years ago) link

thome never sucked as bad as pjuols does now!

k3vin k., Sunday, 4 June 2017 04:56 (six years ago) link

damn he's on pace to score 49 runs

nomar, Sunday, 4 June 2017 05:43 (six years ago) link

$500K per run

Karl Malone, Sunday, 4 June 2017 05:46 (six years ago) link

Thome's last two seasons were split between four teams; I didn't look carefully enough--you're right, he was mostly pretty good except for his Orioles line.

clemenza, Sunday, 4 June 2017 12:52 (six years ago) link

Ben Carsley, BP:

"Thanks to his milestone 600th homer on Saturday, Albert Pujols has now spent more time trotting around the bases than Mike Trout has spent on this earth."

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

.230/.275/.382, 74 wRC+, 5.9 BB%, -1.2 fWAR

only a little over 4 seasons to go on his contract

Karl Malone, Monday, 7 August 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link

his career fWAR is back down to exactly 90.0, so he's probably going to end down in the 80s unless he improves

Karl Malone, Monday, 7 August 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link

gonna get real ugly

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 August 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link

yr alltime GIDP leader

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/albert-pujols-grounded-into-history/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

hey, he's in good company!

1 pujols
2 ripken
3 pudge
4 aaron
5 yaz

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 22:34 (six years ago) link

a lot fewer PA than most of them; he can get to 600 DP perhaps

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 August 2017 00:51 (six years ago) link

353 GIDP means 706 outs, so 26 games worth of outs by himself.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 17 August 2017 01:39 (six years ago) link

609th HR ties Sosa

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 August 2017 00:29 (six years ago) link

TJ: Stanton chasing 60 is nice, but can we appreciate Albert getting close to the 100 RBI, < .400 SLG club?

Jeff Sullivan: He’s only seven RBI away!

Jeff Sullivan: Currently slugging .394

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 September 2017 21:38 (six years ago) link

Jeff Sullivan:

Okay, 1990 Joe Carter wins out. His 115 RBI that year are the most ever by a player who slugged under .400.
There are just 11 seasons on record in which a player has reached triple digits.
Joe Carter has two of them!

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 September 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link

i wonder how much better the angels would be with anyone else providing protection for trout

Karl Malone, Friday, 8 September 2017 21:57 (six years ago) link

i don't really know the front office dynamics but if scioscia keeps his job after batting pujols in the middle of the order all season i'd be surprised

k3vin k., Friday, 8 September 2017 22:34 (six years ago) link

if scioscia goes it'll be arte moreno's decision, and i doubt that he's concerned with where pujols bats in the order. not winning a playoff game since 2009, however . . .

mookieproof, Friday, 8 September 2017 23:34 (six years ago) link

Pujols has scored 48 runs all season.

looking at Carter, his seasons appear to be a bit better; still terrible, but they came in *relative* deadball periods.

nomar, Friday, 8 September 2017 23:59 (six years ago) link

(xpost) Not disagreeing with you, KM, but I'll just say in passing that of the 10,000 things Bill James has said over the years, one that he's never budged an inch on (he often modifies or even completely upends his opinions) is that the idea of one batter providing protection for another is just a myth.

clemenza, Saturday, 9 September 2017 01:57 (six years ago) link

his bbref war is back below 100 thanks to this season

what a depressing career arc

ciderpress, Saturday, 9 September 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link

sucks for the angels, too, if they end up missing the playoffs by a game or two. if they had a replacement-level player, they might have made it. but you never know, they might turn it around.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 9 September 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link

xpost clemenza

you (and bill james) are probably right! i guess the "protection" idea is kind of an old school piece of wisdom that i've always just assumed was correct because it seems intuitive.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 9 September 2017 19:44 (six years ago) link

If Pujols is the worst player in baseball this year, I'm guessing that Cabrera can't be too far behind.

clemenza, Saturday, 9 September 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link

cabrera's fall-off this year was so dramatic that i have to think he's got enough left to be a well-above average hitter

k3vin k., Saturday, 9 September 2017 21:03 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

my BBR search engine isn't cooperating but it appears as though Pujols scored the second-fewest runs in MLB history for a player who had 100+ RBIs. He scored 53 runs.

i know one has little to do with the other but it says something about his inability to get on base or run despite having enough ABs to back his way into 100 ribbies. .

nomar, Thursday, 5 October 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link

i think fangraphs has him as the worst everyday player in MLB (via EWPod)

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 5 October 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

there haven't been any rumors or news or anything, but just thinking: is there a chance pujols might retire early? he seems like one of those guys who would feel kind of bad about absolutely crawling to the finish line while being one of the highest paid players on the team. is there precedent for that, for leaving a contract early? i feel like there is, but i can't remember the specific players.

Karl Malone, Friday, 8 December 2017 02:44 (six years ago) link

steamer is projecting him to be a 99 wRC+ DH next year

Karl Malone, Friday, 8 December 2017 02:45 (six years ago) link

which would be a big improvement

Karl Malone, Friday, 8 December 2017 02:45 (six years ago) link

there was an EW podcast recently where they concluded he will make a graceful exit in mid-2019.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 December 2017 02:56 (six years ago) link

even if he continues to be awful, though, i can see him sticking around in an attempt to reach 700 HRs or some other round number counting stat.

Karl Malone, Friday, 8 December 2017 02:58 (six years ago) link

hey, he had an 100 RBI year

k3vin k., Friday, 8 December 2017 03:11 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

happy 38th

only four years and $114m to go

mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

if he finishes this season with the same number of ABs and BA as last season, his career BA will go from .304 to .301

that HOF plaque won't look as good with a .290/.361/.520 slash.

omar little, Thursday, 3 May 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link


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