Marvel Comics blabbery

as for the "loftier comment", i am not of the school that gives morrison carte blanche. i suppose king's point in this first run is that death changes a man, changes.... A CITY and that minus the meta is not much shallower than much of what I've read of GM as of late

does anyone give morrison carte blanche? c'mon man everyone has good and bad work

i find GMs stuff has a tendency to be overrated but i'm aware i'm in the minority in that for this board.

I'd just like to rep for aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot)

^^^ thanking u for screen name

Haha, you're welcome

Anyway I haven't seen folks mention the Waid/Samnee Black Widow, which just finished a super fun first six issues, and features lots of panels like this:

http://i.imgur.com/PQHmsOW.jpg

Also it's one of the few comics that reads really well on the app with Guided View - maybe better than in print, even

I think of "tt" as being something Morrison had Batman say - where else has he flogged it?

I remember 'hh' (impatient sigh, presumably) being used for Batman.

Yes, I'm really enjoying the current Black Widow series. While I was reading #6 I had the thought that Waid was pitching a ScarJo solo film.

*flips through Invisibles* "TT" first appears two or three issues in

it actually took me a little while of reading Morrison before I realized his predilection was for two letter guttural vocalizations. Wasn't sure if it was that or some weird abbreviation scheme I missed

Sound effects were always the giveaway for which 52 pages GM was writing

haven't read the black widow series but on the strength of those two panels chuck_tatum posted i'm going to rectify that asap

Looking forward to reading Black Widow and Vision and all of the Marvel series that I've been buying and putting into boxes over the past couple of years once I get caught up (just finished Original Sin...sigh...this is never going to happen, is it?).

Original Sin was pretty good btw, for those of you who are further behind than I am. I'm kinda over Marvel "killing off" major characters but I dug most of the secret history reveals, which were largely impactful without being too dismissive of what came before. Not crazy about Dum Dum, though, wtf.

Original Sin payoff is definitely a long game, since we still don't know what made Thor drop the hammer!

Ugh, wish I had it in front of me to confirm but I thought the implication was that Fury used something like an Asgardian cheat code to render Thor unworthy.

Still enjoying the Aaron Thor issues. I like the really transparent ploy at the end of the current issue. Thor and Jane Foster are both present?!? I thought Thor was Jane! What kind of trickery is... wait... oh yeah

Yeah it's gotten better the past couple issues after a boring patch

This is persnickety but, while I dig the artist, I find his panel shapes really annoying

i guess no one else has talked about how much fun Squirrel Girl is? It's fun.

I think we have somewhere, maybe on another thread. The issue with Galactus is one of my favourite issues of anything ever.

omg the last issue of vision is SO SAD

can't remember having that "count the days until the next issue" feeling for a while

Original Sin payoff is definitely a long game, since we still don't know what made Thor drop the hammer!

i guess no one else has talked about how much fun Squirrel Girl is? It's fun.

in my head its the only marvel comic discussed on this board bar hickman's universe-ending thing i've just totally blanked on the name of. this is obv inaccurate. anyway squirrel girl yeah it's great

i think it's good in a way that 'fun' is unnecessarily diminutive of actually

but that's my weird predilection for narrative art that exists by virtue of the preposition 'hey, most narrative art of this genre is dumb'

Genndy Tartakovsky is doing a Luke Cage book and it looks like this:

https://thenerdsofcolor.org/2016/07/11/who-is-marvels-blaxploitation-luke-cage-comic-even-for-exactly/

Jesus Christ.

that looks... suspect, but i'll warily give Genndy the benefit of the doubt until the book comes out because Samurai Jack was so good

also wow this was actually announced nine years ago??

That's a nicely written piece though, by comics bloggin standards

see, to me that cage sample reflects less tartakovsky and much more destefano: the rubbery limbs, contorted faces, bigfoot-style cartooning all 'round
i love destefano's work in general but Marvel putting him on something as culturally loaded as a blaxploitation take of power man running concurrent with the netflix relaunch of Cage as "unapologetically black" is tone deaf to the point of ugliness.
i don't think there's anything inherently wrong with a bigfoot Luke Cage story, but why not give it to Milton Knight or (DeStefano's Instant Piano cohort) Kyle Baker? Shit, I would buy those books in a heartbeat! Even Sanford Greene's work would be more appropriate and i don't even dig that guy's style.
anyway pulliam-moore otm

I'll personally wait on dropping the otm-bombs until we have more than one dialogue- and context-free page of art upon which to judge.

(sitting stunned by how much I would love a Kyle Baker Luke Cage)

The elephant in the room here is surely that the reason he's a big deal these days is almost entirely due to a white guy.

no offense OL but unless the placement of that page of art is "thing that luke cage reads in a grocery store tabloid and then shakes his head walking away" there is no particular context in which it's gonna play well.

the reason he's a big deal these days is almost entirely due to a white guy.

Yeah, I thought he was a big deal because he released some acclaimed graphic novels in the '90s, I have no idea who this "white guy" is?

I assume that he's saying Luke Cage is a big deal because of a white guy (or, really, a long succession of white guys) but I'm not sure why that's an elephant.

TBF, I'd predict that Luke Cage is on track to become a bigger deal than ever almost entirely due to the performance of a black guy.

the white guy Andrew Farrell is referring to is Bendis, right?

That's who I thought he meant.

I thought he was talking about Iron Fist.

xxp I'm willing to hear a counterfactual, but as far as I know Luke Cage's profile has received an enormous boost over the last decade because Brian Michael Bendis featured him as a prominent character in a lot of his Marvel work - supporting character and love interest in Alias & The Pulse, and himself and Jessica Jones have been in various Bendis-written Avengers books since - they provide the "new family - how can we have children in a world/life like this?" role to varying degrees of eye-rolling depending on who's writing them.

I could certainly have been clearer that I meant Cage and not Kyle Baker, true.

I too would love a Kyle Baker Luke Cage

If this is your kind of thing, the collected Steranko SHIELD is on sale for £3 on the Marvel app. It's about 500 pages.

I've been reading late '00s Spider-Man, likely because I have a deep-seated self-loathing I'm trying to work through and reading questionable comics is how it's playing out.

I started out right before "One More Day." It's really as bad as everyone said it was! The partial retcon definitely helped, although it's still very clumsy in execution. It divided the two events that the plot encapsulated into more-digestible bits, at least.

The multiple issues per month deal was sloppy in that it kept the number of plots and variability of quality that you'd get across multiple Spider-Man series, but all under the banner of Amazing Spider-Man. You still end up feeling like there's a main title and some interesting side stories, but they end up being neatly divided between "written by Dan Slott" and "some other stuff."

The integration between Spider-Man and the two (!) teams he's on is decent, but still a little sloppy. You no longer end up asking "if the Sinister Six (or however many villains there are this week) are so powerful and they're in New York, then how come the Avengers don't help out?". It also gives Slott the chance to do a couple FF stories during Hickman's run, and you end up with some fun stories that are less about the plots-within-plots and more about Spidey playing off of the Richards family.

I really liked Superior Spider-Man! I'm sure the new status quo is starting to show some wear, but having Doc Ock take over was the world's longest shortcut to pushing Peter into being a more developed human being. Him being a scientist only because he had to sell out to Tony Stark via the Civil War shenanigans just never felt right, and now he has an actual job instead of decades of bouncing between photography and teaching gigs. He's turned into a little too much of an Iron Man-lite version now, though.

I remember some decent Waid/Marcos Martn stories in that period.

Feel like he's much more interesting as a photographer than a scientist.

agreed, those were some of the better stories!

imo having him do science stuff is good, him being really successful is probably bad

there's also the weird anachronism of him showing up to the office with the classic "check out these pictures!" and "can we make the evening edition" style banter that continues on way too far into this century when absolutely no news room operates like that and I have no idea why he isn't uploading his pictures and while editions are important, newspapers upload shit all the time

Slott himself seems only half-sold on the Parker Industries thing at first. there's at least one "spider-mobile!" joke per issue for six months

I've recently started catching up slowly on some of the Marvel books from the last few years. Are they publishing anything else these days as focused and idiosyncratic as Tom King's Vision?

Karnak had a shot, but artist issues and disastrously blown deadlines kind of derailed that.

Karnak is nearly far enough behind that Marvel Unlimited will have all the released issues by the time the next is out

it's only up to issue three right? first two were real good.