― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 February 2004 00:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 19 February 2004 00:39 (twenty years ago) link
I do photography too, and I put it online. I agree, credit should be respected, but why would I complain if my pics appeared elsewhere - its good exposure. "But no one knows theyre mine!" you might say.
Well, thats why I'd be smart and put a clear copyright watermark with my name etc ON EVERY PHOTO ON MY SITE. There, your getting credit problem is solved, and if you dont mind about bandwidth, what other issue is there?
Sure being asked is nice but were it me, I'd be pleased to see my pics with my name on them all over the web personally.
― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 19 February 2004 00:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 February 2004 00:45 (twenty years ago) link
http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/garethfap/phoneconfusion.jpg
― Allyzay, Thursday, 19 February 2004 00:49 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 19 February 2004 00:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 19 February 2004 00:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 19 February 2004 00:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 19 February 2004 00:55 (twenty years ago) link
Ally and Tom could sue me for stealing their infinitely amusing fake e-mail thing
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 19 February 2004 00:56 (twenty years ago) link
Misstatements of law by lay-persons v. Failure to teach legal principles to citizens generally FITE
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 19 February 2004 00:57 (twenty years ago) link
I don't care if 90% of the image tags point to images owned by you guys. It's very apparent to me that many of the images posted in this thread are being stolen. I have no interest in filing lawsuits against you penniless little worms, but every time you go and shoot off your mouth about what a sock fucker I am and all that sanctimonoius crap you're spewing, I'm tempted to send out an email to each of the victims of your theft - including the big guys that might just be looking for a good test case to establish some case law. Isn't your ISP the biggest one in Autstralia?? Hmmmm.... Wanna see if all the people you are stealing from think what you are doing is cool? I don't think so. Also, since I've so clearly spelled out the unlawful activity (yeah, debate it in front of a civil judge if you want, I consider it unlawful and there is case history to back me up), when the complaints hit your provider etc etc, it'll be clear that you guys were notified, warned, and had ample opportunity to remedy the widespread copyright violations that are all over this thread -- and yet you took no action...
But never fear, I'm sure your provider is willing to fight the good fight for you guys, go to bat against the legal department at ESPN/Disney/CNN etc to establish that what you guys are doing is just fine and dandy... Sure, that's exactly what your provider is gonna do... If I were you guys, I'd be looking forward to it. I'm sure it'll be exciting...
You guys are fools. I've been having fun pounding home my point that what you guys are doing is wrong, even if it's commonplace. The quality of the arguments from your side have been good -- for a bunch of fourth grade special education students. I have grown weary of you all and this topic.
And yes, since this whole thing started out with you stealing from me, I have tried to be an asshole to you all. Of course this whole thing has been ridiulous and pompous. Thanks for playing along... Fuck you very much.
Note, this is not a threat, this is not extortion. If you guys continue to link to images on my site, I wll search for and find every instance of image theft, deep linking and any other copyright violations and notify the victims (I'm sure they'll be pleased to know you've been punking them) as well as all of your providers, they have acceptable use policies. I'm sure they'll enjoy seeing the postings where you say, "fuck it, I know it's wrong but I'm doing it anyway, what are you gonnna do about it sock fucker??". That is not a threat, that is a promise. Leave me and my site alone, and I'll leave you alone. Fuck with me with me and you better hope you don't so much as spit on the sidewalk next to the building where your server is located... Because I'll be there to call attention to it.
I'm outta here...
Have a nice life kids...
stevem
― Mr_Steve (Mr_Steve), Thursday, 19 February 2004 00:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Allyzay, Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:04 (twenty years ago) link
stevem isn't an asshole. he only has hair.
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:04 (twenty years ago) link
When was the first ILM post? Sometime in 2000?
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:05 (twenty years ago) link
x-post. : /
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:06 (twenty years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:07 (twenty years ago) link
And if Labyrinth is "Australias largest ISP" I'll eat my hat. My several friends who work there will find that terribly hilarious actually.
― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:09 (twenty years ago) link
― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:13 (twenty years ago) link
― bnw doing it again (bnw), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:14 (twenty years ago) link
― dA oRiGeNaL sTeVEm!, Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:15 (twenty years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:15 (twenty years ago) link
I mean, good lord, Trayce OTM, as someone trying to get attention for your photography, do it in a positive fashion. I'd be pleased too, and am pleased when this happens to me. If the issue is bandwidth, which happened when I was at the newspaper, a polite email was generally all it took to stop anything from going on. I sure as hell wouldn't have gone on a website ranting maniacally about how I'm going to take down all and sundry supposed illiterates garnering myself and the publication I worked for a bunch of ill-will and ridicule.
It's just horrible fucking marketing and as a fan of popular shite, I can't condone that.
― Allyzay, Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:15 (twenty years ago) link
― dA oRiGeNaL sTeVEm!, Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Allyzay, Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:17 (twenty years ago) link
can we just delete alt.stevem's pics and links to and just lock the thread now?
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:17 (twenty years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:18 (twenty years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:19 (twenty years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:19 (twenty years ago) link
*acting cool like I don't already know*
The Copyrighted images are not being hosted on this server. No Copyright violations are occurring. You have no recourse here.
― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:25 (twenty years ago) link
There there, you just need some wawa and your nookie and your blankie.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:28 (twenty years ago) link
― dA oRiGeNaL sTeVEm!, Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Allyzay, Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:36 (twenty years ago) link
― dean! (deangulberry), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 29 February 2004 18:08 (twenty years ago) link
Hot Times: The carping about summer in New York City has already begun so it's about time to begin the contrarian’s response—I love summer in the city.
Opera in the park, with bits of cheese and chilled Sancerre in plastic cups. Lingering lunches in shaded sidewalk bistros. Rooftop parties overserving beer out of garbage cans filled with ice and sand. Sunrise whiskeys with bartenders in the Rockaways. Girls in short skirts with beads of sweat on the small of their backs. Falling asleep on the lawn alongside the Hudson River. Aperitifs at A60. Midday movies to escape the humidity. Seared tuna salad and buffalo mozzarella and three pinot grigio lunches. The song of the summer. Pretending the subway doesn’t exist. Dancing at the Bulgarian bar until your clothes stick to your everything. Bloomsday breakfast Guinness. Poolside rooftop mojitos. Kids playing whiffle ball in the park. Rounds of lights and darks at McSorely’s. Backyard barbeques. Churchyard sangrias. Pints of lager outside the Ear. Steamy shagging. Belmont Stakes. Publishing girls drinking at noon on Fridays. Emerging from a perspiration and beer soaked dive bar into the crisp pre-dawn air. Summerstage beertent. Making out in taxis, aroused from the sudden application of air-conditioning. Shakespeare in the Park. Champagne breaknight breakfasts in Inwood Park. Salted Tecantes in a Chinatown Mexican restaurant. Smoking cigarettes in the Goodworld alley garden. Flirting with the daughters of firemen in Breezy point. Long days spent in dark bars. Chilled gazpacho. Watermelons soaked with vodka. Interns with improbably fashionable clothes and the spending habits of people who are spending other people’s money. Old flames. New infernos. Tar beach sunbathing. Avoiding parades with all day bruches that turn into all night bacchanals. Chasing the ghost of Dylan Thomas at the Whitehorse tavern. Fireworks from an Avenue B rooftop. Wilting while watching the Yankees. Midnight oysters at Milk & Honey.
Gear up, lads and lasses. We’re going in.
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link
BOO!
just about everything else is fine by me, tho.
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 June 2004 23:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― TBA (TBA), Friday, 18 June 2004 00:11 (nineteen years ago) link
http://southsidecallbox.com/images/newyork/tp.jpg
― motown modown (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link
So, "Iowa: A place to grow (marijuana)"
BTW, D4rni3lle sold out and left Iowa, anyway.
― mike h. (mike h.), Thursday, 10 March 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link
Hello again. Sorry to email again so soon, but it seems the new phone number has already made it's way onto the internet.When I opened Milk and Honey in January of 2000 it was not reservation only, and had no lock on the door. It was open to anyone who knew the address, and attracted a community of people with one thing in common: knowing how to drink and remain polite, to each other and the residents of Eldridge Street.
The barrage of constant write ups forced us to start running reservations, in order to prevent crowds outside from bothering our landlord (who lives directly upstairs.) Changing the number each time it was published worked for several years to keep the chain of word of mouth relatively strong.
Now, however, with the advent of blogging, there is no chance for that to work. Since the number change of a few weeks ago, my staff actually report an increase in first time customers, who have evidently never heard that it was a quiet bar, merely that it was a trendy one. The landlord has given us his first noise complaints in almost 9 years of business, all regarding the conversation of smokers outside or people exiting loudly.
Over the years our "first call, first serve" policy, while being fair on the face of it, I now realize was quite unfair to our regulars. The people were awake at 9 AM to send in the earliest text message and people who quietly exit the bar at 2 AM seem seldom to be the same people. In an effort to get back the small, like-minded community that we had in the beginning (and regain the quiet that we need to get our year-by-year lease renewed,) I am taking steps to convert Milk and Honey into a private social club.
This process will take over a year, involving the granting of a Social Club Charter by New York State.
In the meantime, we will adopt a half measure that allows us to remain within the law. If membership in such a program interests you, read on. If not, for the next year or so, reservations will still be available on [REDACTED].
M&H Regular Program
Four of our six tables will be allocated to our regulars, who may make an advance reservation, call twenty minutes prior, or just stop by without calling. Regulars will be given a key to the front door. If there are no seats available, you may lock up the next table, and go to White Star or another nearby bar and we will call you when the table is ready. There will be no standing room, and no more advance wait list.
Cocktails will be priced for regulars and their guests at $9, Regulars may bring up to 3 guests., and the key is non transferrable. There are three types of key available. A Standard one, which is $300 a year plus tax. ($325) To renew the membership at the same rate, the regular must have attended at least 10 weekdays the previous year, defined as Sunday through Wednesday. Everyone wants to come during prime time, but without consistent weekday business we will fail.
An Unrestricted key can be used as seldom as you like, and is 3000 a year, with tax $3250. If you have more money than time, this is for you. The Unrestricted key in no way has any advantage in service over a Regular Key. Tables are allocated first come or call, first serve. It is merely that we need each of the 250 keyholders to contribute their share into the business, one way or the other.
Lastly, an Industry key is available for people in the restaurant business. This key has no minimum visits, costs the same as a Standard key and is only valid after 1 AM. If an Industry key holder wishes to come before 1 AM on they must make a reservation, through the normal channel, for one of the other two tables, and will receive no preference in the reservation book.
The program will go into effect the first of November. Payment is by check to "M&H Concierge Services, inc". I will be at White Star, 21 Essex Street between Hester and Canal from 7-9pm starting Thursday, signing people up until we have reached 250 Standard key holders. I would like to meet each key holder face to face., and look forward to reconnecting with some old friends.
Sasha Petraske14 October 2008
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― metametadata (n/a), Friday, 17 October 2008 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link
the initial post on this thread is so fucking otm
― Mr. Que, Friday, 17 October 2008 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link
i moved to new york so i could go to milk and honey
― max, Friday, 17 October 2008 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link
its not true that there are hundreds of great cities in the us
― joe the plumber (ice crӕm), Friday, 17 October 2008 14:49 (fifteen years ago) link