Judee Sill

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Yeah, xgau didn't and doesn't get into most folkie singer-songwriters, or *anything* to do with religion, as a matter of course---but back in the 70s, her music and even her visions or what she made of them got to him, as much as possible:

Judee Sill [Asylum, 1971]
It's her devout hope that we'll "savor each word like a raspberry," and I do mean devout--Sill yearns for the day when Christ the Bridegroom will "take all the gentle away." Thank god her music is spiritually unpresumptuous--pythagorean melodies and spare, delicate chamber-folk arrangements that set off her homespun drawl (the lyric sheet favors spellings like "cuz" and "gunna"). Wish I could also say her lyrics were tart as raspberries, but they remind me more of peaches--fuzzy. B

Heart Food [Asylum, 1973]
Beneath a lusher surface, her voice enriched with overdubs and less idiosyncratically accented, Sill has become a real militant. Christ is a "Soldier of the Heart," a "Vigilante": although "the chosen are few" we're supposed to "see how His mercy shines," presumably because he saves any of us sinners at all. Last shall be first or not, this is pretty repulsive as ideology, yet until the kyrie eleisons at the climax I find it paradoxically seductive. Say she's a mad saint instead of a sainted madwoman and make room for another rock crazy. B+

dow, Friday, 19 August 2016 17:10 (seven years ago) link

Rufus Wainwright does write well at least some of the time, and can see how he attracted Van Dyke Parks as arranger, but his literal long-windedness tends to distract me: he can hold a note forever, so he does---not always; I love some of his tracks---but often.
In a less polished but surefooted way, the 20-year-old Julien Baker---from a Southern fundamentalist family, out lesbian, still Christian---sounds like one of Sill's pilgrims, seems like; the live stream from Newport got and held my attention even while I was puttering around in a lot of mental clutter. Here's a post of the whole set, and yeah some Judee appeal:
http://www.npr.org/event/music/488354526/julien-baker-live-in-concert-newport-folk-2016

dow, Friday, 19 August 2016 17:23 (seven years ago) link

Andy Partridge is a huge Judee fan, and once I got into her stuff, it made total sense.

Dominique, Friday, 19 August 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link

Heart Food is indeed an incredible record, and yeah, it's totally not hard to see why Partridge is a fan!

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Friday, 19 August 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link

I don't take her Christianity at face value fwiw, although I haven't like thoroughly analyzed it to see if I can back that up.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 19 August 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

four years pass...

she had such a crazy life. she would be a good subject for a biopic.

na (NA), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 19:43 (three years ago) link

Good stuff. Thanks, Ned.

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 21:10 (three years ago) link

i loved this--

Another afternoon, they were laying on the deck in Sill’s backyard, right below an enormous beehive. Souther was nervous about getting stung, and Sill said, “Oh, for God’s sake,” handing him two Percodans. She welcomed the bees to land on her. “She’d talk to them and call them ‘little poo-poo face,’” Souther remembers. “The whole time she lived in that house, she’s the only one who never got bit.”

map ca. 1890 (map), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link

and the story about selling a car in mexico for heroin. she really did see it all.

map ca. 1890 (map), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 21:23 (three years ago) link

her stepdad sounds like he was a true monster. and alcohol abuse not exactly helping anyone out.

map ca. 1890 (map), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 21:24 (three years ago) link

that was really good. the doc will be great, i'm sure. cool anecdote from andy partridge about "the kiss" being his favorite song (and also one he can't listen to).

also, it sent me off on a nice walk down David Blue lane, like a nice parting gift

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 22:25 (three years ago) link

Hadn't seen that, thanks! I do still remember some lines from her encounter w Grover Lewis, who helped establish and maintain RS Real New Journalism cred very early on (it's also in at least one of his collections):

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/judee-sill-soldier-of-the-heart-233809/

dow, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 23:27 (three years ago) link

It's always interesting to see the nuances of someone's life when you've only heard the outlines. Like hearing she died "a lonely junkie's death" in liner notes and shorter articles, and then seeing her eating a sandwich at a family wedding or reading about a walk with a friend she took shortly before her death. Different sides of a life that don't fit with the cliches.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 00:43 (three years ago) link

Wow, what a great article. But also incredibly sad. I always hear her music as very affirmative and hopeful, but next time I listen it may have more of a bittersweet tinge.

o. nate, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 19:11 (three years ago) link

i'll definitely watch the documentary.

definitely a major "this person should have been huge" artist, perhaps the best example of this i can think of. although seems unlikely it might have saved her.

the kiss is an all-timer for me

himpathy with the devil (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link

six months pass...

This is all I want to listen to atm

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Sunday, 3 October 2021 03:39 (two years ago) link

I'm lookin' so hard for a place to land,
I almost forgot how to fly

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Sunday, 3 October 2021 03:42 (two years ago) link

It's all so great but here are my very favourites based on having the two albums on rotation these last two days? Anything essential I'm missing?

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Sunday, 3 October 2021 11:01 (two years ago) link

Dreams Come True is very good. Not better than the two proper albums, but I still highly recommend it if you need more Judee.

Cow_Art, Sunday, 3 October 2021 14:37 (two years ago) link

co-sign dreams come true. "i'm over" is maybe my favorite song she did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx1BGIz92xQ

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Sunday, 3 October 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link

I found Dreams Come True a bit of a letdown, years passed and I forgotten I'd ever heard it but I should give it another spin.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 3 October 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link

The disc of demos/home recordings on Dreams Come True is wonderful

J. Sam, Sunday, 3 October 2021 18:29 (two years ago) link

"Emerald River Dance" tears my heart in half every time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzs_QXTisyA

Soundslike, Sunday, 3 October 2021 23:50 (two years ago) link

Apart from Dreams Come True, there's demos, alternates, and live tracks found on the CD reissues. It can all be found on Abracadabra, The Asylum Years. There's one outtake, "The Desperado," from Heart Food. Vinyl nerds can find these tracks on the Songs of Rapture and Redemption 2lp set. I'm glad I have these different versions but I never find myself reaching for them.

Live In London: The BBC Recordings is pretty good.

Chariot Of Astral Light by Tommy Peltier features Judee on some songs and while it's not bad, it does feel like the bottom of the barrel. There's a nice interview with Tommy where he talks about his relationship with Judee. I should give it another chance.

Cow_Art, Monday, 4 October 2021 04:25 (two years ago) link

eight months pass...

That judee sill documentary I helped out on (as music supervisor) is nearly done https://t.co/onbJqaaoD4

— Pat Thomas (@PatThomas1964) July 2, 2022

dow, Sunday, 3 July 2022 03:40 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

Guardian article on the new Judee Sill documentary, including a teaser trailer

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Thursday, 24 November 2022 13:37 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

Is it easy to see this doc?

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 04:30 (eleven months ago) link

Just saw a young charming singer who grew up a block away from where I live who did a Judee Sill cover- while wearing a picture of Dolly Parton hanging around her neck, who she also covered- and it was great! Actually did two Judee Sill covers along with two Roches covers. Can’t now recall what the first Judee Sill tune she did was, the second was “Enchanted Sky Machines.”

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 04:37 (eleven months ago) link

That’s my kinda show

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 30 April 2023 13:26 (eleven months ago) link

I wish it had been recorded.

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 14:20 (eleven months ago) link

One of The Roches covers was “The Hammond Song.”

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 14:21 (eleven months ago) link

I had been hoping a Martha Wainwright song would be played but added “or a song by someone related to her” and The Roches sort of count, do u see?

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 14:22 (eleven months ago) link

I didn’t even tell you about the sing-a-long encores of “Do Right Woman, Do Right Man” and the Tapestry version of “You’ve Got A Friend.”

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 17:09 (eleven months ago) link

What's her name?

dow, Sunday, 30 April 2023 17:21 (eleven months ago) link

Ali Dineen. Think she has maybe one album and a few other things out now. They seem pretty good but the live experience was really something extra.

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 17:43 (eleven months ago) link

3) The artist behind this song is the phenomenally talented Ali Dineen.
I was her 7th grade English teacher.
So imagínate how proud I am.

— Lin-Manuel Miranda (@Lin_Manuel) February 8, 2017

curmudgeon, Sunday, 30 April 2023 18:58 (eleven months ago) link

Yes, apparently she went to Hunter, I guess.

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 19:06 (eleven months ago) link

I’m kind of equally if not more impressed that she has the likes of Richie Barshay playing gigs with her.

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 19:13 (eleven months ago) link

Also, there's some kind of folksy scene at a place called Jalopy House in Brooklyn that I never heard of that she seems to be associated with, some other people from that place made the journey last night from their borough to ours.

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 19:24 (eleven months ago) link

This may give you an idea about the vibe:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CVWjK25jcdu/

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 May 2023 17:51 (eleven months ago) link

Also, there's some kind of folksy scene at a place called Jalopy House in Brooklyn that I never heard of that she seems to be associated with, some other people from that place made the journey last night from their borough to ours.

― Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, April 30, 2023 2:24 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Jalopy Theater? A lot of their programming seems a little like folk music cosplay to me, like people who exactly replicate the Sun country sound or do 60s western swing or spot on piedmont blues or stuff like that. Curious to check her out though.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 1 May 2023 18:59 (eleven months ago) link

It seems like that, and maybe is like that, but what I have briefly experienced seemed to be at higher level.

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 May 2023 19:26 (eleven months ago) link

eleven months pass...

Looks like the doc is finally streaming. The trailer makes it look like the kind of talking-head doc with contemporary luminaries talking about how much the subject influenced them, but I'll probably still watch it because it's Judee Sill.

o. nate, Friday, 12 April 2024 21:17 (six days ago) link

Its really great - there is loads of brilliant archive chat with Judee, some brilliant footage , plenty of scurrilous gossip. they do the annoying animation thing but it is based on her own illustrations so they get away with it. It packs a real emotional wallop. Think its the only time i have ever cried in a cinema.

cw, Saturday, 13 April 2024 14:14 (five days ago) link

Just finished watching. Animations, "handless" handwriting, relevant talking heads—all the music doc tropes of the last howevermany years—but I found it a pretty rich experience because the details of Judee's story were all kind of a blur in my mind, having read or picked up some things here and there over the years. It was nice to have it all in one place, crafted with love.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 14 April 2024 03:51 (four days ago) link


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