Marvel Comics blabbery

Omega Men felt a little compressed at the end - like editorial told him he had to wrap it up before Rebirth - but until the last few issues its the best thing DC has done since Dial H.

we're all omega men now

It was cancelled at 7 then given another 5 issues due to fan outcry.

man DC really has no clue what's good

I couldn't get into Omega Men but I keep hearing good things. Should I try again and persist? I also couldn't get into Dial H, despite wanting to...

I think Tom King was also involved in Grayson, which I enjoyed.

The Omega Men series had an issue #0 I missed on first reading. It sets the stage for the first act, which is otherwise a little muddled although it's doing the work of setting up the basis for the rest of the series. The main plot turn is when their abductee, Kyle Raynor, finally sees why the group is fighting together, despite their different origins.

The actual rebellion/battle would have probably gone on much longer had the series continued, and expanded on the denouement, which nevertheless ends up with the gray moral resolution that the series deserves

i agree about omega men being "compressed"; it's still notably better than about 95% of what DC has put out in the past five years.
i get the sense he really barely has any interest in writing batman but it pays super well and sells books.

Such a boring character for writers. I'd do it in a second of course, but ugh.

from King's Ringer interview:

“Batman is its own beast,” King said. “It’s weird. I write these very thinky comics where there’s no hero. Sheriff doesn’t have a hero; no one at the end of it is gonna be like: ‘Yay! I triumphed and solved terrorism!’ Vision, at the end, it’s set up as a tragedy and I know how it ends, it’s tragic. What Batman is, is a story about a hero triumphant. The best thing Batman can do with me is to be a good comic that takes people a little bit outside of their day, where they can read and be like, ‘Holy shit!’ That gives you a jolt of pleasure. I’m not trying with Batman to be like, ‘OK, here I want to comment on the world.’ I want to make Die Hard.”

pretty sure it's being guided by editorial to use a bunch of characters and plot devices familiar with their movie and tv properties. as the gotham tv show season featuring hugo strange ends and the suicide squad movie comes out, we get batman dealing with... hugo strange and amanda waller

what do you mean by morrison-isms?

darkgrimgritty played through a stream of consciousness filter plus rapid fire mamet dialogue

All respect, but that's the sort of misleading if not inaccurate description of Morrison I'd read in like USA Today

yeah, that is not really Morrison, imo

I thought you'd at least throw in the two or three speech vocalisms he spells out (*tch* or whatever) and uses every series

It's 'tt'. Also 'UUUUIIIIIII' (scream emitting from otherworldly creatures).

thanks, I was going to google for examples at work but I knew you'd have my back :)

Of course. It's one of the like four extremely niche and generally pointless things I'm good for.

i'm a fan of nnnnnaaaaaaAAAAAAAiiiii myself.
intelligent men differ but the psycho pirate stuff and ms. gotham doing the "I'm scared" bit put me in the mind of morrison. I've read my share of it!

I believe that you have! That description doesn't do him justice, though (e.g. his employment of darkgrimgritty is almost always in the service of some loftier comment, rapid fire Mamet dialogue is way more Bendis than Morrison).

Trying too hard to be cool dialogue, I'll give you.

well, less mamet of the Bendis variety

"What did he tell you"
"the boss"
"no the other guy"
"what"
"of course the boss"
"well than just say the boss then"
"I gotta talk the way you want me to?"
"just say the boss"

"i tried to save gotham"
"I know"
"But it just... You can't. You just can't"
"I know"
"Good bye batman"
"Good bye gotham"
KBAMMMM
"hmmm"

as for the "loftier comment", i am not of the school that gives morrison carte blanche. i suppose king's point in this first run is that death changes a man, changes.... A CITY and that minus the meta is not much shallower than much of what I've read of GM as of late

does anyone give morrison carte blanche? c'mon man everyone has good and bad work

i find GMs stuff has a tendency to be overrated but i'm aware i'm in the minority in that for this board.

I'd just like to rep for aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot)

^^^ thanking u for screen name

Haha, you're welcome

Anyway I haven't seen folks mention the Waid/Samnee Black Widow, which just finished a super fun first six issues, and features lots of panels like this:

http://i.imgur.com/PQHmsOW.jpg

Also it's one of the few comics that reads really well on the app with Guided View - maybe better than in print, even

I think of "tt" as being something Morrison had Batman say - where else has he flogged it?

I remember 'hh' (impatient sigh, presumably) being used for Batman.

Yes, I'm really enjoying the current Black Widow series. While I was reading #6 I had the thought that Waid was pitching a ScarJo solo film.

*flips through Invisibles* "TT" first appears two or three issues in

it actually took me a little while of reading Morrison before I realized his predilection was for two letter guttural vocalizations. Wasn't sure if it was that or some weird abbreviation scheme I missed

Sound effects were always the giveaway for which 52 pages GM was writing

haven't read the black widow series but on the strength of those two panels chuck_tatum posted i'm going to rectify that asap

Looking forward to reading Black Widow and Vision and all of the Marvel series that I've been buying and putting into boxes over the past couple of years once I get caught up (just finished Original Sin...sigh...this is never going to happen, is it?).

Original Sin was pretty good btw, for those of you who are further behind than I am. I'm kinda over Marvel "killing off" major characters but I dug most of the secret history reveals, which were largely impactful without being too dismissive of what came before. Not crazy about Dum Dum, though, wtf.

Original Sin payoff is definitely a long game, since we still don't know what made Thor drop the hammer!

Ugh, wish I had it in front of me to confirm but I thought the implication was that Fury used something like an Asgardian cheat code to render Thor unworthy.

Still enjoying the Aaron Thor issues. I like the really transparent ploy at the end of the current issue. Thor and Jane Foster are both present?!? I thought Thor was Jane! What kind of trickery is... wait... oh yeah

Yeah it's gotten better the past couple issues after a boring patch

This is persnickety but, while I dig the artist, I find his panel shapes really annoying

i guess no one else has talked about how much fun Squirrel Girl is? It's fun.

I think we have somewhere, maybe on another thread. The issue with Galactus is one of my favourite issues of anything ever.

omg the last issue of vision is SO SAD

can't remember having that "count the days until the next issue" feeling for a while

Original Sin payoff is definitely a long game, since we still don't know what made Thor drop the hammer!

i guess no one else has talked about how much fun Squirrel Girl is? It's fun.

in my head its the only marvel comic discussed on this board bar hickman's universe-ending thing i've just totally blanked on the name of. this is obv inaccurate. anyway squirrel girl yeah it's great

i think it's good in a way that 'fun' is unnecessarily diminutive of actually

but that's my weird predilection for narrative art that exists by virtue of the preposition 'hey, most narrative art of this genre is dumb'

Genndy Tartakovsky is doing a Luke Cage book and it looks like this:

https://thenerdsofcolor.org/2016/07/11/who-is-marvels-blaxploitation-luke-cage-comic-even-for-exactly/

Jesus Christ.

that looks... suspect, but i'll warily give Genndy the benefit of the doubt until the book comes out because Samurai Jack was so good

also wow this was actually announced nine years ago??