Remake/Remodel: DC Rebirth so you don't have to

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"We drove them out of business in the '90s, we can drive them out of business again! Would you like a 1:50 variant cover?"

Shakey δσς (sic), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 23:15 (seven years ago) link

For two guys running one of the top 3 comics companies in the US, they seem pretty glib and uninformed. I mean, that's not surprising given their output, but still kind of gobsmacking for industry "leaders".

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 01:18 (seven years ago) link

Action #961

w: Dan Jurgens a: Stephen Segovia & Art Thibert

Luthor Superman and Not Superman Superman discuss whether you can prop up a skyscraper before Luthor Superman melts it with jet fuel his power glove. This isn't the best plan and Superwoman dives in to save them. Yes, Superwoman, who Mr Oz helpfully points out is Lois Lane. (I'll spoil Superwoman for now and confirm it's the Johnsiverse Lois. THIS MAY BE IMPORTANT.) Upstate (which state is Metropolis in? Does anyone care?) it's punchytown until WW carelessly leaves her sword sticking in Doomsday which he throws at Superkiddy. He goes understandably mental and may be more superpowered than his dad, and WW, and maybe both together. 80s Superman makes everyone but him go to the Watchtower so he can punch on his own again. He ends up disappointed though because the seeds that have been dropped through the issue that Mr Oz has some "gate" seem to come to fruition and his supersoldiers seem to be capturing Doomsday and moving him towards it.

Is this another Rebirth fakeout following the possible Titans one? Is Mr Oz only there for Doomsday and doesn't care about any of the Supermen? And is it possible he's not Ozymandias either and a new character?

NOBODY FUCKING CARES.

All Star Batman Rebirth (or maybe #1)

w: Scott Snyder a: JR Jr & Danny Miki

Firefly and Killer Moth are hunting Batman and trash a diner to try and find him because as everyone knows Batman can't start the day without sausage and grits. Batman treats them pretty brutally as he sets Firefly alight and stabs Killer Moth fully through the arm. Then Bats gets pulled out of the window by a robot.

There's then an extended set of flashbacks getting more distant to explain the plot. Simply, Two Face wants to be rid of one of the faces. I'm not sure he cares which, as both halves seem to think they'll be the one left, but only Bats can deliver the module. It then turns out this is just a cover story for his other plan, which is to have Batman killed. I COULD NEVER HAVE GUESSED. Back in the present day the Black Spider turns out to be the robot arms so Bats takes a chainsaw to him. Ultimately it looks like everyone is part of Two Face's scheme but Alfred is the one that betrays him. What has Snyder got against him? He cut his hand off in the Johnsiverse.

This is really quite good, as might be expected, but is as overwritten and overly complex as we've come to expect from Snyder's Batman.

Backup a: Declan Shalvey

This is a framing device for telling how Bats is sick of Robins and is training his new sidekick. Being Snyder, this has to have a Bat Mythology element somewhere so there are hints that Batman trained The Joker. We'll see how it pans out, but I expect it to take months to find out.

Deathstroke Rebirth

w: Priest a: Carlo Pagulayan & Jason Paz

HOORAY! A CHARACTER NOBODY CARES ABOUT GETS A REBIRTH!

But maybe Priest can save it.

tl; dr he can't.

Whether it's the black guy who speaks completely normally except one time when he says "We in de office baby", or the flashback to shooting bears for children, this is a chore. I'd love to think it'll go somewhere but this is a book about a villain DC have been trying to make into a hero for decades despite his superpower being stabbing people in the face. The quality of writing is a cut above the majority of the line but Deathstroke is just an unloveable character.

Detective Comics #938

w: James Tynion IV a: Alvaro Martinez

Oh yeah, this is the one that's really about Kate Kane. Dad flashbacks, Kate proving she's the best of the Batmans, punching, more punching, Robin and Not Oracle (whose name appears to be TH3 G3N3R4L, no kidding) talking about how great they are... this feels like issue 8 of a 12 parter and does absolutely nothing for me. It barely advances the plot and ends where it starts. In fact, it might have even moved the plot back to the end of the previous issue. Not exactly inspiring.

Hal Jordan & The GL Corps #2

w: Robert Venditti a: Rafa Sandoval & Jordi Tarragona

John Stewart, Kilowog and Guy Gardner really don't seem very happy about being saved by Hal so decide to hang about in secret and pretend to be missing after all. Sinestro and his daughter have a lengthy daddy issues chat until he finds out Hal is still alive (because maybe Hal died in the continuity that aged Sinestro, maybe?) and gets jealous he's punching someone else so pilots his planet to Hal (obviously having forgotten he has a ring that could just magic him there). And some other shit happens but it's just water treading.

New Super-man #2

w: Gene Luen Yang a: Viktor Bogdanovic & Richard Friend

In which we find out Chinese superheroes all have hyphens in their name. I can't wait for Spider--Man.

So, Super-man starts his test off against Wonder-woman and Bat-man by disabling her with casual sexism and body-shaming (NB NOT A SUPERHERO) him. He gets his arse handed to him, obviously, but not before we find out about what abilities Wonder-woman and Bat-man have. And that Bat-man is the funny one, almost so you wish it was his book instead.

We finally get an explanation as to how this is different to the Great Ten, who it appears are being written out of the DCU. Poor the GMoz. (Also, is it just me or is there an awful lot of explaining going on?)

There's a zing-tastic (AGAIN, NOT ANOTHER HERO) team-up (DITTO) where the New Justice-league take the BatPrius to investigate the house of a data expert who may have been attacked by a villain. There's a bit of a fight and the villain is defeated remarkably easily as Super-man's erratic powers kick back in.

There's far more potential here than there was in the first issue and I really quite enjoyed it, even if the ideas are pretty much all rehashes of other books; the erratic powers of Superman were a mainstay of the Johnsiverse Action, for example. A glimmer of light in the unrelenting torrent of shit that is Rebirth.

Red Hood & The Outlaws #1

w: Scott Lobdell a: Dexter Soy

The cover(s) imply this is going to be some wacky team-up buddy comedy with Bizarro. Instead it's Deathstroke Mk2, or close enough. This appears to be the story of how Jason Todd takes over the crime empire of the Black Mask because DADDY ISSUES. AGAIN. At the end he blows up a train and a Bad Amazon steps out. Colour me NOT FUCKING ARSED. Dull dull dull dull dull.

Superwoman #1

w: Phil Jiminez a: Phil Jiminez & Matt Santorelli

So, this takes place some time after the events currently in Action and (it appears) the Doomsday threat is over. We get a small catchup on what's been happening around Superwoman (who, if you remember we saw in one panel of this week's Action) including an interview with 80s Steel, the post Death of Superman one. WTF ARE WE BRINGING THAT ENTIRE CONTINUITY BACK? There's a flashback to Johnsiverse Lois working on a farm with Johnsiverse Lana Lang and lifting a tractor above her head like it weighed nothing. WHAAAAAAAAT?

Lana, who is now a reporter (? She was a fearless archaeologist a couple of weeks ago) interviews Luthor Superman about how he's the protector of Metropolis now (which as we all know is bound be contradicted in imminent issues of Action) before SuperLois flies in and spoils it all.

"You've got us? Who's got you?" HAHA DO YOU SEE IT IS LIKE WHAT SUPERMAN SAID TO LOIS IN THAT FILM AND NOW SOMEONE SAYS IT TO HER AND SHE IS FLYING HAHAHA

Turns out SuperLois is not that good at the heroing lark so we flash back to Lana teaching her to fly and stuff because somehow she's an expert at that too now OF COURSE.

And finally an explanation. When Solar Superman blew up at the end of the Johnsiverse he gave Johnsiverse Lois and Johnsiverse Lana his exact powers, made explicit when Lana turns into Solar Superwoman. As Mr Oz puts it, "So. There are two of them." WE CAN SEE THAT YOU DUMMY.

For the next ten pages there is a whole lot of "OH NOES HOW WILL WE COPE WITH TWO SUPERWOMANS" dialogue with as you might expect this dilemma being very swiftly resolved.

SPOILERS

Someone that appears to be Bizarro Superwoman turns up and kills SuperLois.

In a reboot universe that seems to have had two massive fakeouts already (missing years not due to Doctor Manhattan, Mr Oz not interested in Superman MUCH LIKE THE COMICS BUYING PUBLIC, AMIRITE?) this might be the biggest one yet. Ever since this was first trailed the narrative is that thus is SuperLois and instead she gets Janet Leighed. Still, at least the multiple superfamilies have been resolved even if it's by eradicating the Johnsiverse one.

This isn't actually a bad read but feels completely superfluous.

The Flash #4

w: Joshua Williamson a: Neil Googe

At Flash Training Camp it gets explained to us that the speed force wants to be together again and that if can be stolen from the people with it by it setting up winner takes all races. From this everybody makes the direct leap that this means godspeed! you black sprinterer has stolen speed from everyone else and that's why he's fast.

Jump to Black Hole and how his plan is to build a machine to harvest the speed force. Unfortunately this machine kind of eats him alive so an entire team of speedsters (who BECAUSE PLOT the speed force doesn't seem to be racing off) who beat Black Hole by having a race off with him. Consistency, much?

Just... no. I love Flash but this is rotten.

Wonder Woman #4

w: Greg Rucka a: Nicola Scott

EVEN ISSUE PLOT ALERT

Steve Trevor has turned up on Themiscrya and the Amazons go through his pockets and work out what guns are. Steve wakes up and Diana has a crush on him. Because he is a man and they are all women they will have Amazon Olympics to see who gets to take him home with the winner banished forever. And who wouldn't want that over a gold medal?

Diana wins and flies off with Steve in the invisible plane.

Utter shite.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Friday, 19 August 2016 12:27 (seven years ago) link

Years after the fact, I found that the post-Crisis titles were a great introduction to DC (particularly the Superman stuff, which I read about a decade of from the Byrne reboot on). For the most part, they were streamlined, coherent, and fun. Reading about this Rebirth shit just gives me a damn headache.

Justin Truedat (Old Lunch), Friday, 19 August 2016 12:45 (seven years ago) link

How's it going with the lightness and feels that Johns promised was coming back to the DCU? So far they've killed a Louis Lane and a Krypto, right?

Frederik B, Friday, 19 August 2016 12:52 (seven years ago) link

New Super-man has it, maybe? There's maybe more humour in the Bat titles (NB I HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT THIS WEEK'S BATMAN YET).

There's definitely an attempt to make them more like Marvel books, with zingy chat and real life politics.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Friday, 19 August 2016 13:50 (seven years ago) link

lol I read Batman this week and I have to give Tom King all kinds of credit for having Batman say "USE THE BATPHONE" to Alfred

mh, Friday, 19 August 2016 14:08 (seven years ago) link

Aquaman #5

w: Dan Abnett a: Philippe Briones

Dealing with the fallout of Mera busting Arthur out of SuperGuantanamo there's a lot of debating goes on. Should Arthur and/or Mera kill soldiers? Should soldiers kill them? Should POTUS have them executed? Should they get AquaDivorced because they can't agree on murdering?

There are single pages of Atlantis, Black Manta and Crikeywoman to remind us those plots exist, then it's back to the punching (to the point where the Aquacouple take the piss out of punching always being the answer.

Finally Superman turns up on POTUS' orders to persuade Arthur to stop fighting because they're mates.

1) Since when was Superman POTUS' lapdog?
2) This is 80s Superman and he knows he's not the Johnsiverse Superman. He's probably never even MET Johnsiverse Aquaman before (or Rebirth Aquaman, because they might not be the same one given Rebirth Mera seems not to be Johnsiverse Mera). So where does this personal relationship appear from?

I have no desire to read any more of these.

Batgirl & The Birds of Prey #1

w: Julie and Shawna Benson a: Claire Roe

Oh look, Gotham has a functioning underground rail service again. Presumably that's a different one from the never commissioned one that enables the BatTrain in Detective? But what do I know, I just read the books...

Babs Not Batgirl Series Babs and the Huntress follow a guy in a car that's driving while dead of bat bites and then Huntress disappears while telling anybody who's listening (luckily no-one) Babs and Dinah's secret identities. Dinah has been stopping a train with the help of Oracle, who you'll remember from the last issue (and from Babs mentioning it in this one) might be a baddie. After that it's just page after page of incoherent crap. Adding layer upon layer of detail doesn't make you a better writer, it means you can't tell a story properly. And having a DO YOU SEE on every page doesn't make you clever, it's just BORING. It's all a bit Agatha Christie, where the murderer or the weapon or the Maguffin is introduced a couple of pages before the detective works it out.

I now have no idea what the plot is supposed to be or who the protagonists are. In 2 issues. One of which was purely Rebirth setup. A car crash.

Batman #5

w: Tom King a: David Finch w/ inks by Finch and three others

Gotham (the person, not the city) has gone mad so Bat-Alfred takes him down. Well he almost does. I guess that takes care of the comedy part of the issue.

Of course Batman is the one that punches him. And kicks him. And blows him up with a car. And crashes a plane into him.

But none of this works so Bats calls in the Justice League to do it instead. And they can't either. So Gotham Girl explains the whole of their plot then kills him.

Exit, pursued by a Bat.

Tom King really is doing this for the bucks. Totally perfunctory. Despite this it's still probably in the top 10 Rebirth books, maybe even top 5. Christ, that's depressing.

Green Arrow #5

w: Benjamin Percy a: Juan Ferreyra

The evil bankers are torturing Dinah while Ollie and Diggle try and rescue her on a boat. A boat you say? Yes, didn't I mention that the bankers' hideout is a giant wheel thing in the sea? (Which must be quite close to shore, because they get there in an inflatable, yet is SECRET).

They break in and pretend to be bankers so they can attend the SATANIC BOARD MEETING. Ollie's ALL PROPERTY IS THEFT shtick is shown for the farce it is when Diggle suggest blowing their base up will defeat the bankers forever but Ollie refuses because they stole it from him therefore it's his and I AIN'T GONNA BLOW UP MY OWN SHIT NIGGA.

So they try and win by negotiation which goes well until Ollie finds the strongroom at which point he goes all Scrooge McDuck MINE ALL MINE and their plans go to shit.

Emiko solves it all because she's been in charge since the beginning playing both sides, and Dinah smoothes with Ollie to make his dreams of avarice go away. They kill lots of bankers then Ollie blows their base up after all.

But he gets cut off on a bridge and falls in the sea! And wakes up back on 'the' island 'again'! Holy I Have No Idea What The Continuity Of Rebirth Arrow Is ArrowMan!

And just like that, all the momentum is sucked out of the book. 5 issues just thrown away. Pointless.

Green Lanterns #5

w: Sam Humphries a: Robson Rocha & Eduardo Pansica & Jay Leisten & Julio Ferreira

The Hell Tower (which, remember from the last issue, was 75% of the diameter of the Earth) has now reached the centre of the Earth (which, remember from BASIC FUCKING COMMON SENSE is 50% of the diameter of the Earth). The Rage Seed, Atrocitous' whole plan, turns out to be a furball coughed up by Dex-Starr. Yes, really.

The Green and Red Lanterns are fighting before Guantanamo Lantern reveals he has a new Lantern power - Emerald Sight - which might coincidentally be like what's going on at Marvel just now about seeing the future and sees the Justice League taken over by Atrocitous (which presumably means he and Agoraphobic Lantern are going to fail in the next couple of issues). They appear to at the end of the issue. I'm not sure I can be bothered finding out if they do.

Harley Quinn #2

w: Jimmy Palmiotti & Amanda Conner a: Bret Blevins, Chad Hardin & John Timms

It turns out the centre of the zombie chaos is Nathan's hot dog place and there is some kind of force field half a mile from there which stops the zombies from getting to Brighton Beach or wherever the cops are and neatly constrains the plot so Harley has to deal with it. It's the usual goofball nonsense with several mise-en-scenes showing Harley dealing with the zombies before Glenn Danzig turns up with his shotgun to help. Eventually they all get trapped in a bumper car cage and look to be done for before Poison Ivy (the cool fun one from HQ, not the miserable one from her own Johnsiverse title) turns up with a brushcutter to mow down a path through. Roll on next month.

Justice League #3

w: Bryan Hitch a: Tony S Daniel & Sandu Florea

The people who have siphoned power in #1 which got reversed in #2 have now fused together to make giant people called The Kindred. What's an appropriate JL response? Talk to them and find out what they want? Nah, just punch them in their giant face. The Kindred get bored of it pretty quickly so suck Wonder Woman in through their mouth then get up for a walk.

Lanterns go to space and smash some potentially unrelated spaceships they find through a wormhole because they're they. Superman has a whole teary OOOH I MIGHT DIE goodbye to Lois before Cyborg boomtubes him to where the giant in-planet bombs are from last issue, which appears to be like space only with more pressure and hotter. Didn't Superman fly into the sun? Shouldn't that make this a doddle?

Aquaman at least talks to the Kindred but what they tell him is worse than useless. It then turns its back on him to join his mates playing ring-a-roses. Superman finds the bomb but realises he can't do anything about it. Well DUH. "I don't know what to do." I do, stop reading.

Nightwing

w: Tim Seeley a: Javier Fernández

Cold open sees Batgirl Babs lambast Nightwang for letting Raptor kill an innocent man. Does this mean she'd be ok with him being killed if he was guilty? Doesn't that go against the Bat-Code or something? Still, let's join the dots...

In the past, Batgirl Babs turns up while Raptor and Nightwang are about to break into the home of a famous maze builder. Of course, because she's Batgirl Babs she's already a better fighter than Raptor (who we established last time is better than Nightwang) so she beats him easily. Nightwang then fills her in about exactly what's going on but she's only bothered about having been stood up last time. Eventually they break in and make their way through a variety of traps before Raptor solves a tarot one first and sucker-punches Batgirl Babs to get to the beginning of the issue first. The Owls are really happy because they were never interested in the house really, just in making Nightwang look a twat in front of Babs. Once they've hung up the video phone to celebrate in private, it's revealed that this was a giant double bluff by Nightwang and Raptor and the guy isn't really dead and Raptor is now a good guy who wants to bring down the Owls.

Babs is pissed off not to have been let in on the plan, and tells Dick not to arrange another date with her because he swings both ways too much. She knows her head that one.

Suicide Squad #1

w: Rob Williams a: Jim Lee & Scott Williams

Someone hasn't told Rob Williams the premise of this book. We see Waller pick the team for her mission - Harley, Deadshot, Boomerang, Croc and June Moone. Spot the flaw? NONE OF THEM ARE GOING TO GET KILLED OFF NOW ARE THEY, ERGO NO SUSPENSE.

They have to steal something from Russia. The only way into Russia these days is to freefall from space and in doing so Croc nearly drowns in his own vomit. That's about as exciting as it gets tbh.

Backup drawn by Jason Fabok

Deadshot is only a bad guy because someone once threatened to kill his daughter if he didn't shoot Bruce Wayne. The ONLY reason. Is this what we've become in the Rebirthiverse?

Supergirl Rebirth

w: Steve Orlando a: Emanuela Lupacchino & Ray McCarthy

Rebirth Supergirl is back with the Scientist Danvers like the TV show and is off on an experimental flight into the Sun when a Kryptonian Werewolf falls out of the Phantom Zone and she comes back to beat it before it causes too much damage. He stops being a werewolf and they repair the damage. The DEO decide to put her into a secret identity, which is as a student in a special science school.

That's all. Yet somehow it's still the second best book this week, nearly the top spot. It's amazing how enjoyable an actual well done comic is.

Superman #5

w: Peter J Tomasi & Patrick Gleason a: Doug Mahnke & Jaime Mendoza

On the moon Supes is busy hiding Lois and Superkiddy in the secret Batcave there. OH NOES Plastic Man Vacuum Superman has followed them there! OH NOES OH NOES HE VACUUMS IN SUPERMAN LIKE HE DID KRYPTO!

He's after Superkiddy next so Lois goes looking for something to fight him with and finds the Batman Iron Man Suit. The two of them punch him until he vomits out Superman who is going to punch him next issue. Perfectly serviceable Comics, although he could have brought Krypto with him.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Friday, 19 August 2016 20:08 (seven years ago) link

And I have to say, I'm close to the point to giving up. Before all the books have launched (but not before some have been apparently cancelled). He'll, they're not even done with the Johnsiverse yet, Doctor Fate launched a new storyline just this week.

But there are SO many pedestrian books doing nothing it's enough to make you fall out of love with hero comics. And SUCH an incoherent mess.

I don't know any more.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Friday, 19 August 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link

Dude, if you need to stop, stop - I don't think anyone is thinking this is good for you.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 19 August 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

why do you keep saying "Guantanamo Lantern", what does that mean

Nhex, Friday, 19 August 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link

It's the Green Lantern whose defining characteristic is that he was in Guantanamo Bay and getting the ring bust him out. He was also responsible for the Geoff Johns Doom cryingeagle.jpg (see Johnsiverse thread for picture).

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Friday, 19 August 2016 23:05 (seven years ago) link

Is that the convergence clusterfuck thread?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 19 August 2016 23:10 (seven years ago) link

Also thanks Andrew.

It's not reading them, it's paying enough attention to write and/or care. And these are SO dreadful - this is worse than the New 52 I think. At least that had a premise; this claimed to then turned out not to except in a couple of books (Titans, maybe Action, maybe odd numbered WW) and the rest have the same characters written as different ones (Batgirl being the most obvious example).

The real problem is that people apply continuity, which they only do because Crisis onward DC insist there is a 'correct' continuity.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Friday, 19 August 2016 23:13 (seven years ago) link

xp No, the New 52 thread.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Friday, 19 August 2016 23:14 (seven years ago) link

This one

https://flic.kr/p/d9PwZ5

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Friday, 19 August 2016 23:17 (seven years ago) link

But there are SO many pedestrian books doing nothing it's enough to make you fall out of love with hero comics. And SUCH an incoherent mess.

It's been bemusing for years how this hasn't happened to you already!

Shakey δσς (sic), Friday, 19 August 2016 23:56 (seven years ago) link

Aldo, if you need to quit, quit, but this is certainly more enjoyable than reading the books for me.

Btw, in the dodgy DC Heroes RPG fro the 1980s had a map that put Metropolis in Pennsylvania and Gotham in NJ.

James Morrison, Saturday, 20 August 2016 01:01 (seven years ago) link

i put in two, maybe three months before i couldn't take it. Opt out!

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Saturday, 20 August 2016 17:34 (seven years ago) link

The real problem is that people apply continuity, which they only do because Crisis onward DC insist there is a 'correct' continuity.

dc even gave themselves an out with the concept of hypertime before rejecting it for... uh... reasons i guess

i can pee through time (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 August 2016 12:21 (seven years ago) link

So far Batgirl is the only thing I've enjoyed.

King's Batman stuff is so disappointing against his Marvel work, I can only assume editorial interference (also the art is terrible).

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 22 August 2016 12:49 (seven years ago) link

(Which recalls Morrison's Action Comics run, in a "sure thing mysteriously drops the ball" way.)

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 22 August 2016 12:51 (seven years ago) link

I think Action Comic is okay considering that it was clear that all his great ideas went into All-Star.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 22 August 2016 12:56 (seven years ago) link

*Comics

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 22 August 2016 12:56 (seven years ago) link

it's cool, guys, this just has all the ideas I had that weren't very good

mh, Monday, 22 August 2016 14:08 (seven years ago) link

so perfectly suited for the New 52

Shakey δσς (sic), Monday, 22 August 2016 14:26 (seven years ago) link

I guess I mean, even DC's good writers (as few as there are) aren't best served by editorial right now

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 22 August 2016 14:33 (seven years ago) link

That first Batman arc really did not make much sense at all.

earlnash, Thursday, 25 August 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link

ALL NEW GIVE LESS FUCKS FORMAT! DON'T GIVE UP TRUE BELIEVERS!

Action: much punching. It turns out that Mr Oz's plan is not after all to trap Doomsday but to test the limits of Superman's powers because people he has no connection with being killed is exactly enough to send him into a murderous rage. Yes, despite him just saying at the end of last issue his plan was the opposite.

Superman punches him to his new brand new secret new Fortress where he has a new secret new Phantom Zone Sucker In which Doomsday goes through. Yes, despite Plastic Man Dog Vacuum Superman being a two way gate to the Phantom Zone in the other book. Good luck writing your way out of that bollocks.

Mr Oz then reveals he interrupted Doomsday being sucked into the Phantom Zone and that his last plan which was undone was ACTUALLY the plan which is less a sucker-punch than shit writing.

Next month we might find out about Not Superman Superman. Whoopee doo.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Monday, 29 August 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

i approve of this new regiment

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Monday, 29 August 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link

Batgirl (the other non-Simone one): Babs gets into Mma and kisses a boy. Ultimately she gets confused by someone who has a tattoo that changes from her left arm to right arm. I'm betting that it turns out to be An art mistake rather than a plot point.

Blue Beetle Rebirth: oh just fuck off. Stop trying to make the Johnsiverse BB work, much less OOH TED KORD PEOPLE LIKE HIM. Plus the woman at the end died in Johnsiverse BB so it explicitly us for people who didn't read it. I REPEAT JUST FUCK OFF.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Monday, 29 August 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link

Deathstroke: to say this is an utter abortion does a disservice to the notion of choice. Instead let's guess which of these lines isn't from the comic:

"Don't blame me for your uterus"
"My bosom wants to come along with you two"
"At least thirty times you were wearing women's knickers"
"Where the bloody Hell were you?" "Golfing mainly."
"Yellow and black aren't a flattering colour combo."

DECIDE NOW!

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Monday, 29 August 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link

the last, what do i win

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Monday, 29 August 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link

The right not to read another issue of it!

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Monday, 29 August 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link

Detective: 22 pages to work out Tim Drake thinks he's Robin. 22 wasted pages.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Monday, 29 August 2016 21:01 (seven years ago) link

Hal Jordan: something something Sinestro something something Sinestro something something. I bet even Lantern anal historians dgaf about this any more.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Monday, 29 August 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link

Flash: called Barry's Day Off. Him and his new girlfriend have breakfast in Bali then go back to work, so don't have any time off at all. She teaches Wally (the black one, not the Rebirthed one) how to be the best Flash ever. godspeed you black sprinter! then shows up at STAR Labs and kills everyone while Barry drinks coffee with Iris. Oops.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link

The Hellblazer: ok, but reminds me of Deadline even more than the last issue. VERY Philip Bond. The most important revelation is that the 'classic' Swamp Thing series is now back in Rebirth continuity which should cause MASSIVE issues but I suspect it'll get dropped before it does. ACTUALLY WORTH READING.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 20:18 (seven years ago) link

Titans: Abra Kadabra makes a puppet version of the Titans who may just be a brainwashed set of the Titans when they were taken out of time by (it's now clear) him (and not Doctor Manhattan). They beat each other up, but don't, and Garth "dies". Until next month no doubt.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link

Wonder Woman (the odd numbers): Steve and Diana finally bring their plots together but it might be too late for Steve (but I bet not). Elsewhere, Etta has been conned by a baddie. Pretty but still inconsequential.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 20:31 (seven years ago) link

The stuff that used to be under the Vertigo banner is honestly the only post-Flashpoint stuff I have any interest in investigating someday.

Our Meals Are Hot And Fresh! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 22:58 (seven years ago) link

Wait waht classic Swamp Thing up to the end of Millar's run?

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 08:13 (seven years ago) link

Presumably. ST and Constantine share a joke about when ST took over Constantine's body to have sex with Abby (ST76, Roarin' Rick Veitch era and is definitely that event because they mention the tattoo) so SOME of it is in continuity at least.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 09:26 (seven years ago) link

Business side update: week over week sales are falling, new titles are launching at much lower sales than the first wave. I hope DC made a shit ton of money on the first month of releases because this isn't helping their bottom line in the long run.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link

Apparently there's a huge uncertainty over the bi-weekly titles, it's not clear whether they'll drop to monthly permanently, drop tempo, split into two titles or stay as they are.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 20:38 (seven years ago) link

There's probably nothing new left to say about it, but I finally watched Bats Vs Supes: Justice is Served, and boy, that was not fun. I mean, it seems relatively of a piece with nu-52 DC, so I guess, good for those people? But yeesh. I haven't seen Man of Steel, and the first 45 mins or so I thought, "This isn't as bad as I thought it would be," and "Mark Zuckerberg is fun in an ironic bad 1980s TV adaptation kind of way" but then, as soon as I started feeling good things, it turned into this awful turd fountain and I just fast-forwarded through the last 90 mins.

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 4 September 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link

I mean, I would rather read 200 Chuck Dixon comics than watch that again.

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 4 September 2016 22:22 (seven years ago) link

Aquaman #6: It turns out Aquaman has issues about always being considered to be the crap one and all along he (and Mera, so all Atlanteans?) is strong enough to take out Superman. Of course he is. In the other plot (remember that?) it gets two pages again and Black Manta kills the guy in charge to take control. I can't help thinking it'll get cancelled before the two converge.

Batman #6: Gotham Girl has been driven mental and is stopping Gotham's shittiest criminals badly so obviously he stops her by taking his cowl off and telling her his secret identity. He resolves to get anti-mentalist drugs and the only way to get them is by joining the Suicide Squad. OBVIOUSLY.

Cyborg Rebirth: Someone's read The Anatomy Lesson.

Green Arrow #6: Imagine if you weren't the hero in your own book any more and your daughter was, eh? JUST IMAGINE.

Harley Quinn #3: To escape from the zombies the gang go through some spooky tunnels and there's also some aliens and a humorous arm operation involving sexual assault. Compared to most of the other books they get away with the 'throw everything at the plot and see what sticks' approach but it feels weirdly safe at times, or at least in a rut.

Justice League #4: The secret plan of the giant men is to make the planet theirs by destroying it. I for one long for that to happen rather than have this stretch out even longer.

Nightwing #4: Oh good. Another layer of intrigue. Quite fun to read, no fun to explain. Let's just say the Owls are not what they seem. And Hail Hydra.

Supergirl #1: This should be an Archie book. Can we get Kara to switch universes? It would be even better then.

Superman #6: Krypto is back and he and Superman cause a nuclear explosion on the Moon. You know what the best thing about this book is? The lettering. Make of that what you will.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Sunday, 11 September 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link

Just read a thing about this weeks Detective Comics that makes Rebirth sound so misconceived, so fundamentally misguided, that it's almost impressive. Ffs...

Frederik B, Thursday, 15 September 2016 01:17 (seven years ago) link

tell us the thing so we don't have to read the comic

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Thursday, 15 September 2016 01:45 (seven years ago) link


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