If you actively dislike Creedence Clearwater Revival, then I can never respect anything you have to say about anything.

Music critics and their uncanny ability to universalize personal taste pt 1

The surviving Jeffrey Lebowski to thread.

https://www.facebook.com/quierocreedence/

― Kenneth Without Anger (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, August 8, 2016 3:23 AM (2 days ago)

<3

I need to read the biographies.
Mark Prindle was talking about what I think was a Fogerty memoir a few weeks back that sounded like it should be pretty revelatory.
& there's a thick tome written by somebody else I think, I'm picturing it as being about the same size as the expanded Timeless flight not sure why.

& the lps are pretty necessary. I'd say particularly Bayou Country but that might be subjective.
& I do enjoy the 1st lp which I don't think everybody does.
& the live sets I have are pretty great, would love some more earlier ones though.I think I mainly have from '69

Was just listening to these guys yesterday, and tweeted that I've read horror novels a lot less scary than the lyrics to "Lodi."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIfQNB5WXmY

I do enjoy the 1st lp which I don't think everybody does

Skipping the first one means you don't get their "I Put a Spell On You" and "Ninety-Nine and a Half Just Won't Do" (two of Fogerty's best vocals), the long version of "Susie Q," and "Walk on the Water," one of the great lost psych-garage songs that I am amazed more bands (or any besides Richard Hell, afaict) don't cover.

I know I had the first LP years ago, but I had no recollection of "Walk on the Water" until I just listened now. Great song!

Yeah Walk on the Water is my favourite track off the 1st album. It's a good record, not quite in the same league as Green River or Cosmo's Factory but it's probably my 3rd favourite CCR LP.

all the lps are great

well Mardi Gras isn't so great

the oral history of CCR is p good

Thanks for the rec. I ordered it through interlibrary loan.

it's p short and compiled from a lot of different sources - everybody's bitterness comes through loud and clear though lol

I like most of the songs on Mardi Gras, I just wish John would have sung them all.

which is the oral history?

& is Bad Moon Rising by Hank Bordowitz any good?

http://www.alibris.com/Up-Around-the-Bend-The-Oral-History-of-Creedence-Clearwater-Revival-Craig-Werner/book/6948496

The Rock'n'Roll Hall Of Fame is built with lumber harvested exclusively from John Fogerty's sideburns.
― m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Sunday, June 4, 2006 6:39 PM (10 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha

Just heard "Fortunate Son" in the wild for the first time in a long time, and wept a little. What a fucking nailbomb of a song.

"And when you ask them, "How much should we give?"
Ooh, they only answer More! more! more!"

The CCR Live at Woodstock 2LP is fucking great. The rhythm section is incredible: about 8-9 minutes into Keep on Chooglin', after the 3 minute harmonica solo is followed by a destructive guitar solo, with Doug Clifford just in motorik lockstep for 5 minutes, my wife said, "I feel like I am getting run over by a train."

1:groove is relentless & formidable
2:could be 2 x as long & still great
3:no matter how loud you turn this up, it could still go 1 louder if poss:

― lycanthrope electrif (Pashmina), Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:36 PM (eight years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Don't know if this is the same performance, but pretty incredible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azt-0StLZOk

That album looks great. Has a cover of one of my all-time favorite Wilson Pickett jams, “Ninety-Nine and a Half ( Just Won’t Do).” Looking forward to listening.

Hey, instrumental break on “Born On The Bayou” sounds like “Lady Godiva’s Operation.”

They are definitely bumping up against some of VU and the Dead's wilder moments.

It really is great.

For years didn't Fogerty think the band's Woodstock performance was sub par? Or was he just holding a grudge because the Dead's performance forced CCR to go on at like 2am?

Caryn Rose who wrote the review on Pitchfork was going some notebook dumps on Twitter and commented that this general view by many of the acts that their performances were subpar didn't seem to jibe with the recordings

You know who had a great performance at Woodstock that I didn't even know performed Woodstock? Mountain!

Pete Townshend thought Woodstock was The Who's second-worst performance.

Fogerty, or at least whoever it is that signs off on CCR stuff, has loosened up on the Woodstock performance for a while now, as bits and pieces have been coming out legitimately on different CD comps and DVD/Blu-rays since at least the 40th anniversary.

Yes, I think Fogerty thought it wasn't good enough to release.

Actually, it looks like the first tracks surfaced on this 25th anniversary box: https://www.allmusic.com/album/woodstock-three-days-of-peace-music-25th-anniversary-mw0000118155

And Daltrey called it "the worst gig we ever played." Chunks of the Who's set were officially released over the years, but Townshend still nixed a release of the full set back in 1994.

They were tripping against their will for hours while waiting to play (because everything backstage was spiked with acid), but Townshend loved Sly's set, which preceded theirs, later saying, "There's been no better band in history than Sly & The Family Stone."

Also, it looked like the Who wouldn't get paid. Artists who refused to play without their money were threatened by the organizers (presumably, Michael Lang) that an announcement would be made from the stage along the lines of, "the Who is here, but they won't play for you until they get paid!" The Who said, "Go on. Say it. Piss off half a million people, and see what happens." So the Who got their dough.

xxxp

There was a video circulating a few years ago. I know I had it, so sometime late 00ies early teens.
Seemed to be pretty noisy, raucous and stuff.
Not sure who filmed it. Was it part of the footage that was shot then made into the film, just left out or was it someone else?
THink i probably still have it just not sure which disconnected hard drive it would be on.

I'm seeing there is also talk of releasing audio from the Royal Albert Hall a few months later too. THink there is already a recording that has claimed to be from there but not sure if its mislabeled.
Would love some more earlier live stuff from 67 or 68. There area few tracks on the s/t cd from a few years ago .
I think what's on the Bayou country is a bit later though.

There was a video circulating a few years ago. I know I had it, so sometime late 00ies early teens.
Seemed to be pretty noisy, raucous and stuff.
Not sure who filmed it. Was it part of the footage that was shot then made into the film, just left out or was it someone else?

Those probably were outtakes from the film. A few songs have popped up as bonus features, and I think some other clips have been bootlegged.

I wrote about the Woodstock performance.

Well done, Phil.

“We’re having a multitude of problems. I’m sure you don’t want to hear about ‘em”

Great review.

Yeah, the sound seems off at the beginning of “Born on the Bayou”, which is a shame as it is one of my favorite intros in all of music.

that was great!

this kills so much

CCR rules.

Still digging this.

This is some good shit but really it sounds like '68 Captain Beefheart to me, not every live band in the '60s sounded like the VU or the Dead! :)

CCR is just as distinctive as any of those bands, this sounds like CCR

yeah idk Beefheart seems like the wrong point of comparison - he hated grooves!

MIrror man seems pretty groove orientated, TMR sounds a bit more angular, I thought there wasa soul influence creeping in on Decals that became pretty clearly overt on Clear Spot.
Safe as Milk and Strictly Personal both seem pretty groove orientated, particularly the latter.

I found that the early live sets I had by man from 1970 in Germany really reminded me of the MIrror Man type sound.

Need to get this

he hated grooves, he said so himself repeatedly!

he’s bothered by the fact that its practitioners stick to what he calls “the mama heartbeat” – the steady unvarying rhythmic pulse that he’s been working subtle variations on, snaking his way around, syncopating sinuously or avoiding altogether for 15 years.

“I think that beat is related to fascism, I really do. It’s so fixative, so hypnotic. And they make the stuff so synthesized – to where it’s dangerous to the heart, I mean, faster-than-the-heart disco – some of that disco is dangerous! It doesn’t mean it won’t sell! But then again, sugar sells, which I think is extremely dangerous!”

Looks like there was some discussion of Woodstock Choogle upthread eleven years ago.

I thought there wasa soul influence creeping in on Decals

Where?

B-b-but what about the Howlin’ Wolf influence?

There was a soul influence on "Safe As Milk" but I can't hear on "Decals".

he hated grooves, he said so himself repeatedly!

― Οὖτις

he did! also, he lied a lot, and he had a fucking great drummer who was more than a little responsible for his sound!

here's a 11 minute live version of "rollin' and tumblin'" from 1968. try and tell me there's no swamp blues choogle here!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS-iJtRFpZo