TBH I assumed Exaro was funded largely by someone who cared a lot about this and basically nothing else, to the point of monomania.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 31 July 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link
seeing reports that Goddard has quit as head of the csa inquiry?
― soref, Thursday, 4 August 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link
the Times is alleging that Goddard quit after "she was warned by a senior official over her frequent use of racially derogatory language", including claiming that Britain has so many paedophiles "because it has so many asian men"
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/786678658182291456
― soref, Thursday, 13 October 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link
also, the Henriques inquiry into Operation Midland has apparently been completed, but the police have not said how much of it will be published, if any?
― soref, Thursday, 13 October 2016 21:51 (seven years ago) link
jings
Sir Edward Heath would have been questioned over sex abuse claims if he was alive when they came to light, police have said.Wiltshire Police launched Operation Conifer in 2015 when the former PM was accused of historical child sex abuse.The Conservative politician would have been interviewed under caution over seven claims, including the alleged rape of an 11-year-old, they said.No inference of guilt should be drawn from this, police stressed.The allegations include one of rape of a male under 16, three of indecent assault on a male under 16, four of indecent assault on a male under 14, and two of indecent assault on a male over 16.The earliest, dating from 1961 when Sir Edward was Lord Privy Seal, alleged he had raped and indecently assaulted an 11-year-old boy in London "during a paid sexual encounter in private in a dwelling."Another two of the seven claims relate to "paid sexual encounters."The Sir Edward Heath Foundation called the report "profoundly unsatisfactory".
Wiltshire Police launched Operation Conifer in 2015 when the former PM was accused of historical child sex abuse.
The Conservative politician would have been interviewed under caution over seven claims, including the alleged rape of an 11-year-old, they said.
No inference of guilt should be drawn from this, police stressed.
The allegations include one of rape of a male under 16, three of indecent assault on a male under 16, four of indecent assault on a male under 14, and two of indecent assault on a male over 16.
The earliest, dating from 1961 when Sir Edward was Lord Privy Seal, alleged he had raped and indecently assaulted an 11-year-old boy in London "during a paid sexual encounter in private in a dwelling."
Another two of the seven claims relate to "paid sexual encounters."
The Sir Edward Heath Foundation called the report "profoundly unsatisfactory".
― more bemused than human (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 October 2017 11:17 (six years ago) link
There was that credible testament from the lady who said she saw 11 children from Haute de la Garenne go out with Heath on his yacht, but only 10 returned.
― calzino, Thursday, 5 October 2017 11:27 (six years ago) link
testimony even. just having a grim lol at the idea of the testaments of the twelve pederasts!
― calzino, Thursday, 5 October 2017 11:33 (six years ago) link
what makes the testimony about him dumping children's bodies from his yacht "credible"?
― soref, Thursday, 5 October 2017 11:39 (six years ago) link
tbh the report is highly unlikely to say "if allegations like these were brought to light today, we'd totally blow them off". idk how much point there is in releasing a report that just indicated the police would do the basics of their job in 2017.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 5 October 2017 11:43 (six years ago) link
the usual formulation is "credible witness" i think: which means the testimony may be implausible but nothing (besides this specific implausibility) seems to stand against our taking the witness seriously*
*and of course credible witnesses often just make mistakes
― mark s, Thursday, 5 October 2017 11:48 (six years ago) link
xpsonly one she alleged. And given the children's home he was frequenting, and its sordid history - it seems credible enough to me.
― calzino, Thursday, 5 October 2017 11:49 (six years ago) link
well tbf the focus of operation conifer wasn't 'what would the police do about these allegations today' it was 'is there any substance to these kid-fucking allegations about ted heath and others' xp to sv
― more bemused than human (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 October 2017 11:50 (six years ago) link
and to that end
As part of the £1.5m investigation, three people unconnected to Sir Edward were arrested for offences related to child abuse, one of whom is still being investigated.
― more bemused than human (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 October 2017 11:51 (six years ago) link
That's the point of the operation but if the conclusion as to whether there is any substance to it is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ then i'm not sure how much value there is in publicly saying they would have questioned him - which would be the starting point of any basic investigation but will inevitably be interpreted as an indicator of guilt however many qualifiers they put in.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 5 October 2017 11:58 (six years ago) link
Strikes me as a weird statement to release.
― Tom's Tits Experiment (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 October 2017 12:01 (six years ago) link
the fact that the police also leaked to newspapers about how they're "110% sure" that there is substance to the allegations may lead one to think a lot of this is about justifying the time and resources that have been spent on this
― soref, Thursday, 5 October 2017 12:03 (six years ago) link
given that it was already known operation conifer's remit would include ted heath it surely would have been stranger if they hadn't addressed their findings, inconclusive as they are, when the report was published
it'd be the first thing the media would ask about, might as well address it head-on
― more bemused than human (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 October 2017 12:04 (six years ago) link
This business seems to have run its course:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/14/westminster-vip-abuse-accuser-fled-to-sweden-when-story-collapsed
― the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link
Jesus.
― ☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 14:45 (four years ago) link
I don't wanna say "I told you so", but...
― Tuomas, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link