Um, I Think It's Time for a Thread on WikiLeaks

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"who knows, maybe trump as president would liberate all slaves, guarantee a national wage, and invent a really cool new synthesizer patch. it could happen!"

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 July 2016 03:04 (seven years ago) link

that particular J.A. quote has no mistakes in it.

but u guys get back to admiring statist thugs

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 July 2016 03:12 (seven years ago) link

hey morbs, why don't you devote some time to learning how to literally fellate yourself instead of just doing it rhetorically every 30 seconds on this discussion board? i imagine the sense of accomplishment will far exceed the minor jolts of ego satisfaction you get from posting here.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 July 2016 03:20 (seven years ago) link

and fwiw yes assange is literally correct in that statement; it's the conclusion he draws from it that is deeply stupid.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 July 2016 03:20 (seven years ago) link

the two of you get a room

El Tomboto, Thursday, 28 July 2016 03:21 (seven years ago) link

god help us

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 July 2016 03:51 (seven years ago) link

“I used to defend WikiLeaks all the time on the grounds that they were not indiscriminate dumpers of information,” Greenwald told Slate. “They were carefully protecting people’s reputations. And they have changed their view on that—and no longer believe, as Julian says, in redacting any information of any kind for any reason—and I definitely do not agree with that approach and think that they can be harmful to innocent people or other individuals in ways that I don’t think is acceptable.”

El Tomboto, Friday, 29 July 2016 20:43 (seven years ago) link

wow, that's kind of big

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 29 July 2016 21:13 (seven years ago) link

I feel really bad that I keep mixing up WikiLeaks and Edward Snowden in my mind. Snowden seems like such a better dude than Assange.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 29 July 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link

ha yeah not even close

k3vin k., Friday, 29 July 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link

the lrb piece that kinder posted above is p much the most thorough dismantling of assange imaginable, a really ridiculous pos:

http://www.lrb.co.uk/2014/02/21/andrew-ohagan/ghosting

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Friday, 29 July 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link

Snowden did what he did to show how little control we have over our private data. Assange leaks everyones private data left and right for no good reason. They're kinda pretty much diametrically opposed at this point.

Also, Assange is a rapist. So there's that.

Frederik B, Friday, 29 July 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link

snowden pointedly gave the info he compiled to journalists who he trusted to sift through it all and reveal only the most pertinent stuff

he did the right thing

wizzz! (amateurist), Saturday, 30 July 2016 04:19 (seven years ago) link

he seems a million times smarter and more decent than assange; there's no comparison.

wizzz! (amateurist), Saturday, 30 July 2016 04:20 (seven years ago) link

Drudge + Roger Stone + Assange...if anyone can swift boat, it's them as a team.

thrill of transgressin (Eazy), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 02:16 (seven years ago) link

holy shit - assange seems genuinely, worryingly unhinged these days

pokemon go speed run (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 12:25 (seven years ago) link

Guy is a rapist. He has been worryingly unhinged for years. He is constantly digging himself lower these days. Shame on Jill Stein for calling him a hero, and saying his rapes were his own personal business.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 12:37 (seven years ago) link

I don't disagree with Greenwald's comment.

Frederik B, star chamber judge

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 14:12 (seven years ago) link

At one point wikileaks was pro-transparency. Know they use their own secrecy ("we don't comment on who our sources are") to fan conspiracy theories.

Has Greenwald commented on this? I can't find it.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 15:34 (seven years ago) link

Dude

Um, I Think It's Time for a Thread on WikiLeaks

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, sure. I meant the Seth Rich allegations.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 15:39 (seven years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/08/opinion/can-we-trust-julian-assange-and-wikileaks.html

I’ve had my own run-ins with Mr. Assange. During the making of my 2013 film, “We Steal Secrets: The Story of WikiLeaks,” I spent an agonizing six hours with him, when he was living in an English country house while out on bail. I was struck by how insistently he steered the conversation away from matters of principle to personal slights against him, and his plans for payback. He demanded personal “intel” on others I had interviewed, and dismissed questions about the organization by saying, “I am WikiLeaks” repeatedly. (Later, Mr. Assange and his followers attacked both me and my film.)

Mordy, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 13:08 (seven years ago) link

NYTimes, a name you can trust

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:15 (seven years ago) link

the author is alex gibney, not the nyt. gibney made such films as we steal secrets: the story of wikileaks & enron: the smartest guys in the room. the NYTimes is not the author, merely the publisher.

Mordy, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:19 (seven years ago) link

also basically everyone who has spent time with assange thinks he's a pos, including former colleagues.

read the lrb piece from Andrew O'Hagan that I reposted upthread 2 weeks ago.

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link

Alex Gibney is also the maker of the recent documentary Zero Days, which relates the US-Israeli creation of the Stuxnet cyberwar virus.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:24 (seven years ago) link

I haven't seen all of Gibney's documentary work, but being in the business of constructing documentaries and doing the requisite interviews seems like a career that would help develop your sense of character

mh, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:31 (seven years ago) link

Alex Gibney is also the maker of the recent documentary Zero Days, which relates the US-Israeli creation of the Stuxnet cyberwar virus.

― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, August 17, 2016 2:24 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what is your point?

ginbney's films aren't groundbreaking experiments in form but they are excellent both in their detective work and in telling stories. the james brown documentary was surprisingly meaty. but apparently he made a doc about israel so he can't be trusted.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:56 (seven years ago) link

my point is Mordy will love it

and stop addressing me, you prick.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link

are we on a playground?

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link

xxp also could not figure out what his pt is but if it was really just a film recommendation i will check it out

Mordy, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link

it does sound interesting!

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:59 (seven years ago) link

judging by the 16-year history of your posts, yes, nitwit

xxp

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link

STUXNET

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:03 (seven years ago) link

for a putatively left-wing gay shut-in, you sure act a lot like biff tannen online

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:06 (seven years ago) link

idk I thought it was pretty obvious Morbs was just providing that as a point of information before getting oddly accosted for it

mh, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link

I get oddly accosted for breathing by board 'regulars'. too old for this shit.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link

given his history of reflexive anti-semitism zionism and baiting mordy, you can understand how we might have taken it as a jab

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link

if you're too old for this shit, then stop doing it. don't blame us for "addressing" you. you have the power to step away from the board.

i guess this is why all the experts say that bullies are essentially filled with self-loathing...

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link

^ban this fucker for life NOW.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link

you're a ridiculous self-parody.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:17 (seven years ago) link

anyway, sorry for derail. back to julian assange....

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:18 (seven years ago) link

NPR really knows their listeners expect whoring for the Dems

@theintercept
NPR host demands that Assange do something its own reporters are told never to do

https://theintercept.com/2016/08/17/npr-cant-accept-assange-protect-sources/

David Greene is an ass.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 August 2016 11:50 (seven years ago) link

They did it again, this time exposing Saudi Arabian rape victims and doctoral records. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/W/WIKILEAKS_COLLATERAL_DAMAGE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-08-23-03-30-45

Frederik B, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 12:58 (seven years ago) link

"giant library of the world's most persecuted documents."

persecuted documents

persecuted documents

mh, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 13:51 (seven years ago) link

the clintons have some kind of bizarre superpower: everyone who hates them turns into an idiot or a liar at some point.

i mean look at this quoted email

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/768076098555023361

goole, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 16:34 (seven years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/world/europe/wikileaks-julian-assange-russia.html

i have some problems w/ this article -- on occasion they seem to take smoke for fire -- but it's still worth a read.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 1 September 2016 11:50 (seven years ago) link

The Wikileaks response is here fwiw:

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sp2gj0

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 1 September 2016 11:52 (seven years ago) link


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