JEANS

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/15/AR2009041502861.html

Denim is the infantile uniform of a nation in which entertainment frequently features childlike adults ("Seinfeld," "Two and a Half Men") and cartoons for adults ("King of the Hill"). Seventy-five percent of American "gamers" -- people who play video games -- are older than 18 and nevertheless are allowed to vote. In their undifferentiated dress, children and their childish parents become undifferentiated audiences for juvenilized movies (the six -- so far -- "Batman" adventures and "Indiana Jones and the Credit-Default Swaps," coming soon to a cineplex near you). Denim is the clerical vestment for the priesthood of all believers in democracy's catechism of leveling -- thou shalt not dress better than society's most slovenly. To do so would be to commit the sin of lookism -- of believing that appearance matters. That heresy leads to denying the universal appropriateness of everything, and then to the elitist assertion that there is good and bad taste.

wow APC jeans are exp in the US!

Just bought an awesome new pair of ACNE

"summoning Americans to soul-searching and repentance about the plague of that ubiquitous fabric, which is symptomatic of deep disorders in the national psyche."

I cut off a pair of 501s into jorts yesterday.

This is not complicated. For men, sartorial good taste can be reduced to one rule: If Fred Astaire would not have worn it, don't wear it. For women, substitute Grace Kelly.

http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/g-will1.jpg

FASHION TIPZ FROM ME, GEORGE WILL

If Gene Kelly would not have worn it in Xanadu, don't wear it

]I cut off a pair of 501s into jorts yesterday.

― too many misters not enough sisters (milo z), Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:59 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark

wtg dude

http://i43.tinypic.com/2zef1vb.jpg

for the jean experts--do clothing companies purchase fade patterns?

jeans are hard to buy when you have thunder thighs.

ctrl-f "jorts" FOUND

dyao, you're in hk no? about 5 years ago "carrot jeans"* were a pretty big regional trend there...

*relaxed seat/thighs but taper down to skinny around the calves.

this bottoms trend is now developed on the extreme end to the resurgence of harem pants (non-denim tho), ymmv.

imo: take a look at 2nd hand shops for carrot jeans?

http://images.google.com/images?q=carrot%20jeans

just ordered a bunch of levis, very pleased. their trouser jeans are really cute

thanks SS I'll have a look! xp

for the jean experts--do clothing companies purchase fade patterns?

LVC (Levi Vintage, their high-end line) reproduces the wear on vintage pairs they've purchased on different model years.

for the jean experts--do clothing companies purchase fade patterns?

― W i l l, Tuesday, September 8, 2009 5:18 PM (4 months ago)

styling details such as abrasions, blasting, whiskering, webbing, tacking... all are designed to specs. on the low-end, production facilities have prefab samples for examples, but on the mid- to high-end, you bring your specs at the design stage and need to be signed off on during the sample approval process.

for vintage/worn looks, absolutely... collection pieces are analyzed for their wearing. i have routinely wear tested many samples and then gave them back to the designer for analysis. i've also had a pair of original vintages borrowed for inspiration. I never accepted money for this, but then again, I was approved on buying trips to R&D competitor's garments, most of which were returned to me.

stumbled on some raw denim forums while doing some general googling. wow, these people get pretty cultish about this stuff!

think I'm gonna pick up some uniqlo selvedge denim based on SS's rec in the male clothes thread

The uniqlo selvedge denim are good every day jeans. Recommended.

yeah I hope I can find some in my size.

looking around I see cuffed jeans are in style now. ?!?

xposts - thanks, good to know the clerk at d3nim bar wasn't bullshitting me!

Anyone wanna explain to me where the trend of wrinkles at the thigh originated from? half the jeans i see these days have these wrinkles on the thigh, or fade marks there. it's fucking revolting.

raw denim fad iirc

the indigo dye fades away fastest at the front part near the crotch/thighs and the backs of the knees. so companies are all about recreatin that in their prestressed jeans. waiting for SS to show up and school me.

fading is one thing. lines that are supposed to look like creases or wrinkles is something else altogether.

but yeah i guess i just need to shout out against raw denim altogether, unless it's very special

"Whiskers" are the worst kind of pre-fading, imo.

omg that's what it's called? that's disgusting

worst.

my worst pet peeve about jeans is when people wear pre-stressed jeans where the original pair was obviously worn by someone very tall, so the fading on the back of the knee ends up being around the person's mid-calf or lower

They're called whiskers on women's jeans, don't know for sure if also on men's. On us girls, they radiate more or less out from the crotch, which is what I REALLY hate about them: like neon sign arrows pointing to incipient camel toe.

if you ever look at a pair of vintage jeans, they usually will have patterns of wear and whiskering. for consumers who want to wear "vintage looking" jeans, these patterns and whiskering are designed to emulate what happens to a pair of normal jeans over time.

it has nothing to do with raw denim, it has everything to do with time and wear.

and who has time for time and wear these days lol now u can buy the time and wear

who knows wear the time goes?

u guys

u can buy distressed shoes too to match ur whiskers

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=6925037

http://www.fitch-abercrombie.com/images/21%20833447406040978850.jpg

These are destroyed denim shorts and as such will arrive to you with frays, knicks, holes, etc. This is NOT a defect, but was made to look this way. This is what A&F is known and loved for!! No 2 pairs are the same - the destruction to your shorts are unique. ADD YOUR OWN UNIQUENESS & DESTRUCTION - make them even hotter and sexier by adding your own destruction - you can tear at the destroyed holes abit more to add even more uniqueness to your shorts! Free Delivery to Europe

good luck europe

Ppre-worn shoes and jeans to go with your Fender "Road Worn" guitar?

Have been wearing LVC '37s for a few weeks now. So light and comfy compared to the last pair I was wearing (Warehouse 800).

Right cuff keeps reverting to being longer than my left cuff, though.

even more uniqueness

Bought what are technically my most expensive pair of jeans ever today - got some Glory jeans originally $160 at 60% off. They are your standard dark blue utility jean, but the denim is very heavy and rigid compared to other jeans I've owned. They don't have any annoying pre-fade or piss-stain or creases or anything, which I appreciate.

fun fact: theyre called 'whiskers' not 'creases' and were inspired by china (vague recollection of watching a documentary on a couple of inhouse designers traveling to china getting inspiration from hanging laundry woah)

i actually bought my favorite pair jeans in a long long time at walmart for $10 a couple of weeks ago. why doesnt anyone make dark rinse flared jeans anymore? also desired: white stitching.

also please please please dont catch on 'JEGGINGS' (the term - dont really care one why or the other about the jeans themselves)

http://www.gymboree.com/shop/dept_item.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524445991696&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374306254886&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395917465&bmUID=1279809698883&productSizeSelected=0&fit_type=

oh wait. here:

http://www.gymboree.com/shop/dept_item.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524445991696&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374306254886&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395917465&bmUID=1279810199051

fun fact: theyre called 'whiskers' not 'creases' and were inspired by china (vague recollection of watching a documentary on a couple of inhouse designers traveling to china getting inspiration from hanging laundry woah)

― sunny successor, Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:49 AM (1 hour ago)

<3 u SS, but this is plain untrue!

These, fwiw:
http://gearpatrol.com/blog/2010/03/08/glory-utility-55-selvage/

need to get hemmed though and probably won't be cool enough to wear them for a while.

well someone on a documentary on discovery channel (i think) was claiming they invented whiskers! this was some years ago. anyway theyre gross and i <3 you too.

need to get hemmed though and probably won't be cool enough to wear them for a while.

― uNi-tArDs (Hurting 2), Thursday, July 22, 2010 1:18 PM Bookmark

haha, the lack of subjects for the verbs in this sentence provides for unintentional lulz.

how could anyone invent "whiskers"? they appear naturally as a result of wearing jeans

i guess someone invented the idea to bleach them into new jeans? i dont know.

the history of distressing/pre-worn looks on denim is not rooted in China. I'd wager italy or usa circa 1980 according to my lookbooks.