I can see where people can sit there and talk about the issues in the film, because obviously it is a story to do with those things (though not really sure on the "feminism" angle, to be totally honest, unless "wimmins bein' all bitchy and shit at everyone" is a feminist stance now), but I mean the thing that made Erin Brockovitch good was the character portrayals and the acting and the little comedies and moments in it. The film kind of falters when they get the settlement and you see her going and doing the "Julia Roberts Must Do This At Least Once Per Picture" weepy-eyed sympathetic huggles thing, IMO (or, the last half hour minus the epilogue, Morbius OTM). People trying to make the issue of big money/little people are missing the point, I think?
And I take it as a compliment!
― AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link
"Reviewers" (I mean TV critics etc) and mass audiences don't like it when ANYTHING isn't only not spelled out for them, but not repeated a few times. Paul Schrader mentioned how unusual it was that Eastwood never specified how his character alienated his daughter in Million Dollar Baby.
Another plus for COM: now Michael Caine doesn't get remembered solely as Alfred the motherfucking butler.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link
I feel like an odd person out that my complaint about COM is that it explained too much--there was no reason to actually show Caine's death, for example.
― AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link
Yet the casual manner in which the soldiers yanked the midwife – and she's never mentioned again – atones for it.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link
x-post "atone"?
― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:47 (seventeen years ago) link
(For some reason the lingering detail that helps make it "worthwhile" to me is that he takes care of the very practical and humane detail of dosing the dog.)
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link
All the little heartbreaking moments are the core of the film - if you dull (further) the ending and take away Caine's death and so on, you're left with a cold, cold film. The warmth is what makes it all work.
There were only two out of place moments, IMO - the midwife speech and Theo's reaction to Moore's death (when he breaks down in the forest, it was over the top)
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link
If Peter Boyle got remembered for that shitcom, I really don't see Caine obits leading with Alfie or Hannah and Her Sisters, esp if he does 2-3 more pretentious Batman movies.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link
xpost You would be surprised, Alfred isn't exactly an unfortunate role on par with, say, Obi-Wan Kenobi...
― AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link
OK I apologize for the tone of this, that's coming off a lot more pretentious than it's meant to be. It just didn't ring right to me at all.
― AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― TOMB07 (TOMBOT), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link
The jokey "pull my finger" followed by the "fuck you" and what seemed to be throwing the finger followed by the shot followed by the return of the "pull my finger" was great.
― The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― ryan (ryan), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link
and as much as Guinness badmouthed Kenobi, Star Wars sure as hell is a better vehicle for phoning it in than Batman Begins, which is good only for Baleporn.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link
xpost you say "Baleporn" as if it's an insult.
― AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 18 January 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― and what (ooo), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link
x-post to Ethan
― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― TOMB07 (TOMBOT), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― TOMB07 (TOMBOT), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link