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Poll closes November 05?! Goddamn why you set these things to run so long.

ledge, Monday, 29 October 2007 23:26 (sixteen years ago) link

on the other hand i was listening to "personal jesus" while high the other day and i had a vision of wearing an all-black suit and driving a really fast black motorboat at sunset and generally being bad-ass

max, Monday, 29 October 2007 23:27 (sixteen years ago) link

TS: Mode vs Cash vs Manson versions.

Just kidding. Cash's is alright I guess. Manson's is the one I have to sing along to on Singstar (but then they brought one out with Enjoy the Silence!!!)

ledge, Monday, 29 October 2007 23:34 (sixteen years ago) link

i was listening to "enjoy the silence" while wearing an all-black suit and driving a really fast black motorboat at sunset and generally being bad-ass the other day and had a vision of ... no, this hasn't worked. forget it.

grimly fiendish, Monday, 29 October 2007 23:35 (sixteen years ago) link

grimly: thx for looking

stephen, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Absolutely has to be "Policy of Truth".

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 02:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Policy of Truth doesn't get enough luv

-- Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, October 29, 2007 5:03 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

otm

latebloomer, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 04:31 (sixteen years ago) link

even though there are so many great songs on this, i picked "policy of truth" because i think the lyrics are the height of gore's sleight of hand morality play and because of the guitar. i think i prefer the beatbox drums on the remix though.

tricky, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 04:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Policy Of Truth.

Always did, always will.

Never again
Is what you swore
The time before

... Perfect.

smn, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 12:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Among other fine things about that song -- how it ends. Gore's concluding guitar parts are further evidence, as I muttered elsewhere, his ability at performing anti-solos.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 12:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Someone should start a Flood-as-producer poll. Certainly this album is the apex, despite considerable achievements. For all the deserved talk about the guitar on Violator, I've always admired how you can't distinguish between guitar and synths -- a tribute to the band and Flood. That's partly what made the three singles so unusual and extraordinary on Top 40 radio.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 13:18 (sixteen years ago) link

There was a period of time where I looked for Flood-produced albums, regardless of artist.

HI DERE, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 13:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Haha yes, me too, or rather all the bands I liked seemed to be involved with him and Alan Wilder. What are these guys up to these days?

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 14:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Flood's busy as sin. Alan Wilder does occasional Recoil stuff.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 14:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Seems like these two guys never really recovered from their early 90's glory days.

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 14:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Wikipedia has more on Flood. I'm actually terribly amused by the fact he and Moulder worked on the Killer's last abomination of an album, because you just know Brandon Flowers was all "If only I could get them to work for me like they did for Depeche and NIN and the Smashing Pumpkins oh please oh please oh please..." I assume at some point Flood and Moulder exchanged looks of the 'well we can't polish a turd but here goes' variety.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Killers', obviously. Jerry Lee Lewis presumably does not need Flood.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link

although i for one would love to hear that ...

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Who needs to hear the album, I just want to hear the studio chatter outtakes.

"I eat sunuvabitch limeys like you for BREAKFAST!"

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

oh god I need to buy so many of those albums (probably not The Killers tho)

HI DERE, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I see Wilder is now married to Ms. Hallyday...

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Damn, I've been talking about Alan Moulder all along!

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

i had trouble choising between 'halo' and 'world in my eyes'

the former was my initial (and long time favourite). the latter is the track i return to these days the most. i sometimes specifically play it for the 'that's all there is' bit :)

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

i listened to the whole thing this morning, incidentally, inspired by this thread. good god, it's a work of wonder.

i'm beginning to think i should have voted for "enjoy the silence" because it does approach perfection, but ... nah, i stand by my choice.

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 17:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm listening to it right now!

I am remembering, again, just how much "Personal Jesus" just OWNED the radio -- at least, KROQ -- in 1989 when it first got released. It was Depeche but it was utterly unlike them at the same time, and that stomping beat was the key. Still is!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 04:57 (sixteen years ago) link

every time i listen to "personal jesus" i want to be in some kind of action movie

max, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 04:58 (sixteen years ago) link

but i stand by "enjoy the silence" because i could write thesis about it

max, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Why because it footnote interstin

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:00 (sixteen years ago) link

the spooky coda of "Personal Jesus" is really the best moment on this record

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:01 (sixteen years ago) link

as far as i can tell, "enjoy the silence" is basically just derrida's essay "violence and metaphysics," but with the opposite opinion. also a better beat and melody.

max, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:07 (sixteen years ago) link

haha that makes me sound like an asshole. i stand by it.

max, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Glad I'm waiting for the final bump. It's "Halo" at the moment.

aldo, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 11:22 (sixteen years ago) link

My take on "Personal Jesus": Great verse, awful chorus!

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 11:28 (sixteen years ago) link

John Justen in "not voting for Blue Dress" HI DERE-SHOCKA!

It was really really close though. Voted for "Clean", but it took about 20 minutes to decide between the two. Also, why don't I ever listen to this album anymore?

John Justen, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Because you are INSANE

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link

No, that's not it. John's been insane for years and he used to listen to this album all the time.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 16:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Personal Jesus is why I bought this album, but Policy Of Truth is my favorite track… Hmm…

And man, Mog Stunt Team did a great version of PoT.

I eat cannibals, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 17:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Sunday, 4 November 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Monday, 5 November 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

surprised so little love for "personal jesus". otherwise happy.

grimly fiendish, Monday, 5 November 2007 00:06 (sixteen years ago) link

also: i betcha every song in this poll gets at least one vote.
-- stephen, Saturday, October 27, 2007 9:58 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

stephen OTM ^^

stephen, Monday, 5 November 2007 00:13 (sixteen years ago) link

good point, actually: rare, that. a testament to its brilliance.

even the cover is evocative. i love this album to pieces.

grimly fiendish, Monday, 5 November 2007 00:17 (sixteen years ago) link

"Blue Dress" deserved more.

Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 5 November 2007 00:53 (sixteen years ago) link

The lurkers won. Personally I am happy to see "Personal Jesus" not getting a lot of votes. It's the most "Songs Of Faith And Devotion" sounding song on this album after all.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 5 November 2007 03:14 (sixteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

"There's that awesome moment when the string swoop right before doubletracked Gahan sings "It will be worth it" that's my favorite DM moment ever."

yeah!!

r1o natsume, Sunday, 20 July 2008 14:28 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

god how fucking good is the sensual mix of "dangerous"?!? that sexy acid riff that snakes around the beat is ridiculous, flood is responsible for this right? or was it francois k? my only complaint is that it should go on for twice as long!

r1o natsume, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 13:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Nearly all the mixes around that time are flawless -- "Kaleid" doesn't get enough love, I think.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link

six months pass...

does anyone know what synthesizers were used on this record ? some of the sounds they got out of their synths are brilliant.

oscar, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link

six months pass...

more and more i am of the opinion that "sweetest perfection" is the best song on this album. lyrics just on the right side of camp so as to be melodramatic as opposed to just angsty, those almost jazz-y brush strokes during the verses and the growling guitar menacing beneath, that fucking orchestral breakdown, martin's voice and the deep satanic backing vocals, dave joining in at the end during the huge swollen swirling outro... it's like some mutant post-industrial broadway number or something. just amazing.

you don't have to be fake and phony (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Sweetest Perfection would fit perfectly on the Counterfeit EP. Halo has been my fav. on this album for the last year or so.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link


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