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Man I wanted to write this tomorrow but I'm not going to be able to sleep if I don't get this out. I've been listening to this album all day and I think that rathat than Lynyrd I think the two touchstones that people (ESPECIALLY Chuck) should be thinking of when listening to The Dirty South are John Mellencamp and Neil Young & Crazy Horse. What isn't Mellencamp (spec. "Rain On The Scarecrow")about "Putting People On The Moon" is Crazy Horse. And what isn't Crazy Horse about "Joe Perkins' Cadillac" is Mellencamp.

Caveat: Do not listen to the Buford Pusser trilogy ever again. They think the answer to Walking Tall is to try and glorify the other side of the coin, when really they should be talking about how BOTH sides are fucked up. Plus "Cottonseed" is indeed terminable and worthless. The whole thing fucks with the real point of this album, which is to express their politics the same way Decoration Day expressed their personal relationships and Southern Rock Opera expressed their sense of identity. And their politics are far too nice guy (liberals who believe in learning from your elders - it's kinda Field Of Dreams, kinda hey hey Neil Young and the Coog) for them to convincingly come off as southern mafiosos. Tracks 8-10 simply do not exist. Kogan does that shit all the time, right?

They're definitely becoming more comfortable with their verbosity, which is making their songwriting less anthemic than it was back in the day. I think they're making up for this with SOUND. Cut out the Pusser trilogy and I think this album actually has more swing than Decoration Day, but again, in a Crazy Horse kinda way. I was scared by Chuck's initial review, but Isbell's songs are much less staid here. I don't think he's the second coming and he is way too alt-country for the flashtastic, but they do shuffle now. Cooley's pretty cornpone too (while your at it never listen to "Daddy's Cup" again either, it's right after the trilogy) but when the band's behind him he's certainly got more sense than the Coog did back on "Justice & Independence '85."

Oh and it took me a while to figure out why I loved "Tornadoes" so much and the answer is that it sounds a hell of a lot like Big Star's "Kanga Roo."

If this album was just tracks 1-7 and 12-14 I think this would be my favorite DBT album. But hey, I have almost every Crazy Horse album and only a cheap Lynyrd comp.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 26 September 2004 06:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Another thing: when trying to explain my fondness for Wilco I tell people that I think Jeff Tweedy is what Neil Young would be like if he was starting out after the concepts of culthood and punk were engrained in rock culture. If it wasn't for the sense of stardom he achieved with Springfield, Harvest, and CSNY as well as a child of the '50s sense of rock as redemption, I think Young would probably shirk into sound and abstraction more frequently. Where Wilco just implies that, Isbell's "Danko/Manuel" actually acknowledges that schism between the '60s and today nakedly. Neil can sing "Rock'n'roll is here to stay" and Isbell sings "just another thing to not believe in."

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 26 September 2004 06:41 (nineteen years ago) link

oh and haha Isbell's always kind of out of sync with Cooley and Patterson as to what the album's theme is. Isbell's singing about poppa on Decoration Day even though they already covered that on SRO. Now he's singing about "Goddamn Lonely Love" cuz he's still one step behind.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 26 September 2004 06:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Rat on, Manthony! "Comfortable with their verbosity" in *deed*: this is mostly Patterson's prob though, and not just cause he's most prolific. Jason's singing about just one more thing not to believe in reminds me of Lennon's anthem re/to all the things he daosn't believe in, on his greatest (prob only great) solo alb ever, leading hm to 'just believe in you." More than one way to inspiration, as Jason's songs prove too. Another DBT influence, mostly Patterson's, for better and worse, seems to be the Eagles. They did have their moments, most of 'em on ON THE BORDER, but DBT's never as *sanctimoniously* malicious as the Eagles: if he wants to ill, he just does it. His present whine does remind me of theirs though. Yeah, burn the best (the most), ditch the rest, as they'd prob approve, and if they don't screw 'em.

Don, Sunday, 26 September 2004 12:38 (nineteen years ago) link

while trying to sleep I threw on Decoration Day and if any album should be throwing Chuck into an "OMG my boogie band is going ALT-COUNTRY!" snit it should be that one. The production's flatter, more ballads and twang and since his stuff doesn't move its harder to ignore Isbell's bump-on-a-log historical references. But again (this is key) you cannot listen to tracks 8-11 ever again.

They're supposedly sending a video for "Don't Ever Change" to CMT, and Isbell is now "the face" of the band they're gonna try to push on country markets. You wouldn't have guessed that back on Day.

Oh and just in case SOMEBODY wants to quibble, what isn't Kenny Aaronoff about Brad Morgan is Ralph Molina.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 26 September 2004 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
They sure kicked ass in Nashville last night, as usual. They played for THREE HOURS! Managed to hang out with them again afterward, too.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 10 October 2004 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Did you get in town early enough to see the in-store at Grimey's? I almost got off my ass and went to that, but football prevailed.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 10 October 2004 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link

no - didn't even know about that!!

Jason's solo album will be out in the Spring - psyched!

Johnny, can you still get me some Adam's House Cat stuff?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 10 October 2004 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I talked to my friend Corey about it. He had to go to some kind of work seminar in Florida this week, but he said he's sending me a cd-r when he gets back. It's coming, my friend.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 10 October 2004 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link

you're the man. lemme know what you need in return!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 10 October 2004 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Dirty South kind of kicks Decoration Day all over the place, no? This is killing me tonight.

dan. (dan.), Sunday, 12 February 2006 03:18 (eighteen years ago) link

from the country thread, for whatever it's worth:

New Drive By Truckers album, due April 25, sounds...dreary. Surprise, surprise. Only 11 songs, which I commend, but it still kinda drags on and on. I do find myself not reacting negatively to the sort of songs where the guitars and the high-voiced guy (which one is that? I can never keep them straight) goosh out a nice steady stream of Neil Young and Crazy Horse beauty; there are at least two and a half of those (I think, though don't quote me on this, "Goodbye," "Blessing and a Curse," and about half of "A World of Hurt," the other half of which is a sort of monolouge worthy of, I dunno, early Nada Surf or middle King Missile or some other mid '90s alt novelty rock artistes I've forgotten who used to recite deadpan prose over their singing.) The one track I actually actively LIKE is "Aftermath USA", a blatant Stones rip about (hi Shooter) waking up after a chemically fucked-up night to a trashed apartment with crystal meth in the tub and the kids haven't been to school for weeks. Which makes me not feel so bad about my own kid missing school Friday 'cause he said he had a cold.
-- xhuxk (xedd...), January 17th, 2006.

>worthy of, I dunno, early Nada Surf or middle King Missile<
Both of whom, at least when they recited prose about popular kids and detachable penises, were probably funnier. So no, really probably NOT worthy. (Not that funniness is all I care about. And it does occur to me that titles like "Aftermath USA" and "A World Of Hurt" might mean this CD's supposed to be about current events or something, somehow.)
-- xhuxk (xedd...), January 17th, 2006.

So the high-voiced Drive By Trucker is Patterson Hood, right? At least that's what Xgau tells me. Only place on the new one where his Neil Young and Crazy Horse beauty really hits a dust-storm of paydirt, to my ears, is "A Blessing and A Curse." I've decided not to vouch for "Goodbye," which he might not even sing, or "A World Of Hurt." "Daylight" seems to be an awful attempt at Radiohead (via My Morning Jacket?) style nothingness; "Wednesday" is rote bland alt-country; "Space City" another bore. "Gravity's Gone" is a passable second Stones rip (also mentions coke I think -- actually, seems to be about some sort of high-fallutin schmooze party), but not nearly up to the level of "Aftermath USA," probably the only great cut on here (though I reserve the right to change my mind about any of this).
-- xhuxk (xedd...), January 17th, 2006.

xhuxk, Sunday, 12 February 2006 03:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I love the new album. Love it. Hood's never sounded better, and Isbell's songs are fantastic.

a. begrand (a begrand), Sunday, 12 February 2006 05:02 (eighteen years ago) link

It's funny I guess but all of the criticisms of drearyness directed at Dirty South seem more appropriate in talking about Decoration Day. I kind of heard Dirty South as way more intense and angry and slow burning, following up what was almost a folk record with a couple of clunky rockers that really didn't rock.

dan. (dan.), Monday, 13 February 2006 03:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Their best song is still "Zip City," as far as I'm concerned, by the way.

This may very well still be true. Though upon review I seem to have left it off my POX, which perplexes me.

Cooley remains my go-to guy, though they all have their moments.

"Don't know why I put up with his shit
When you don't put out
And Zip City's so far away...

I got 350 heads on a 305 engin
I get ten miles to the gallon
I ain't got no good intentions."

Hood remains the heart and soul and all, but it's mostly Cooley and Isbell who get me right here...*

*("Angels and Fuselage" excepted)

rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 13 February 2006 04:10 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't understand the appeal of this band. nor big n rich for that matter. someone kindly explain?

Vintage Latin (dog latin), Monday, 13 February 2006 04:31 (eighteen years ago) link

dbt are light years beyond what big and rich are doing. after royal trux and crazy horse, respectively, i'd say DBT are the greatest rock band in the world. i guess you either get it or you don't, but i'd say try downloading some of the songs recommended above - check out Danko / Manuel (Isbell), Dead Drunk and Naked (Hood) and Marry Me (Cooley). If those songs don't do it for ya, I'd say you're a hopeless case my friend.

SO psyched for the new one!

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 13 February 2006 07:17 (eighteen years ago) link

it's good AND dreary!!!
me likey long time.

eedd, Monday, 13 February 2006 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I've only heard 3 songs, but they're all great. Best band of the 2000s.

Of the three I've heard, Cooley's is the best. Gravity's Gone, I think it's called. I'd put it in the alltime COoley hall of fame alongside Uncle Frank, Panties in Your Purse and Zip City.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 13 February 2006 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

this is what i posted in that same country thread, after seeing the boys live a few weeks ago, just a few scattered impressions:

hey xhuxk, saw the Drive-By Truckers last night here in Athens, first show of a three-night homestand - you're the only person I know who's heard the new one (how DO you get 'em so fast? I remember bugging their publicist for two months after you first mentioned Dirty South on here before they finally sent me a copy) - anyway, can you help me fill in a couple of these song titles for the new cuts for a show review I'm writing up for the paper here?
1 - "hold my breath until next Wednesday" - I assume this one's "Wednesday" agreed that it's rote alt-country but not entirely unpleasant
2 - refrain is "don't be so easy on yourself" (Isbell sings this one, I liked it)
3 - "Blessing and a Curse" - not very memorable
4 - Gravity's Gone - Cooley sings it, lyrics about handjobs I think and waking sunny-side-up, this one's good
5 - "left w/o saying goodbye" - assume this one's "Goodbye" lyrics sound pretty treacly but I liked the bass on this one, hope it sounds as good on record
6 - "Daylight" (I think Isbell did this one, oh wait yeah this is the one where he's all full-throated screamy, I guess that's where you're getting the Radiohead/MMJ comparison from)
7 - "Feb 14" - slight but decent
8 - something like "wonder why it's taking me so long" also think I heard something about getting dirt off your good name, Cooley sang it and I'm fairly certain it wasn't an old song and hopefully not a cover b/c I really liked it, acoustic and very evocative
9 - "World of Hurt"


Josh Love (screamapillar), Monday, 13 February 2006 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
i like all the hood songs on the new one, hate the isbell songs (one sounds like eddie money, i swear to god), and am ambivalent about the cooley songs. this does feel like their most "indie rock" album. i'm not totally feeling it, but then the dirty south ended up really growing on me, so i'm reserving judgment until i live with it a few months.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 16:21 (eighteen years ago) link

It's a good record, I just wish Cooley and Isbell had more songs. 7-2-2 isn't a good songwriting split for a Truckers record.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 16:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Agreed that Isbell's songs aren't quite on par with his previous stuff (wouldn't say I hate them at all though, "Daylight" is still pretty gripping), and Cooley's "Space City" is still maybe my favorite on the whole album, but I'm mostly just disappointed at the disparity b/w Hood songs vs. the other two. The last couple of albums were way more balanced, the split on Dirty South was 6-4-4 in favor of Patterson but this record's 7-2-2 I think. I do like some of Hood's stuff on here too (esp. "Aftermath USA" and "Feb. 14") but it's still a shame that two of the best songwriters alt-country's got (which really needs all the help it can get) are being consigned to just a couple of tunes per album - in other words, where's Isbell's solo already?

xpost, exactly.

Josh Love (screamapillar), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link

this one's been on repeat for a couple of weeks now, and it's got some good un's and some clunkers...
seems like they're gettin away from their 'bar-band' roots and tryin to write more singer/song writer type ditties...

that being said, live- they're almost w/o equal. saw this past summer and even the "short set" (meaning under 2.5-3+ hours) was a blast.
i've turned more people onto this band than any other, i think.
and it's worth it...

eedd, Tuesday, 7 March 2006 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEZ-bIfeM4E

VDO my friend cobbled together. People with DBT are mildly interested in working a video for one of the new songs, so if we get enough views for this, he and I might be doing another for realsz.

Jimmy Mod is a super idol of The MARS SPIRIT (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Saturday, 20 May 2006 02:14 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

'The Living Bubba' - the live version off of Alabama thunderpussy ,or whatever it's called - one of the best grieving songs ever. It just lolls on and on. Fuck off death. You will never beat me. I've got another show to do

Fer Ark, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Bob ain't light in the loafers
He might kneel, but he never bends over

o_0

milo z, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:21 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

'A World of Hurt'

*Ducks rocks*

Fer Ark, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Brighter Than Creation's Dark is uneven like their others, but higher highs than the last one (lots of discussion on Rolling Country)

dow, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

My soon to be former roommate just gave me 7 of their CDs to rip. Oh boy oh boy.

RabiesAngentleman, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 06:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw them at First Ave in Mpls just a little while back and they were incredible. I must have been one of like three people dancing the entire time.

RabiesAngentleman, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 06:25 (fifteen years ago) link

God I hate when people brag about dancing at shows.

Reatards Unite, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 08:31 (fifteen years ago) link

one of the statues huh

RabiesAngentleman, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 08:36 (fifteen years ago) link

God bless the man that dances at a DBT show.

myndbloom, Wednesday, 30 July 2008 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link

You should have been at Nottingham last night.

DBT do attract White Trash. God bless em.

Do DBT attract Trailer Park in the USA?

Fer Ark, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Brighter Than Creation's Dark is uneven like their others

They've been getting more-and-more uneven over the course of their last few albums. Before that, the three-disc run of Southern Rock Opera -- The Dirty South was pretty special.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 8 August 2008 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I wish more bands were this uneven.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 August 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

New one is great. The only dip in their stunning consistency was Blessing and a Curse.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 8 August 2008 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link

blessing and a curse...

imho ,the opener and closer are splendid

Fer Ark, Friday, 8 August 2008 20:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Brighter is better! Some good tracks on Blessing, but too many slammed doors, shit happening offstage, before and after. I wanna see!

dow, Saturday, 9 August 2008 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

You should have been at Nottingham last night.

Actually, I was...

mike t-diva, Saturday, 9 August 2008 12:38 (fifteen years ago) link

lol britishes.

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Saturday, 9 August 2008 12:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey Mike t diva.
I wasn't one of those favoured ponces stood on the balcony either. I was mixing it in the pit with the chavs...
Nice summary btw.
I was under the impression that they would be loud?

One of the quietest bands ever esp. considering the 'three pronged guitar attack'

Fer Ark, Saturday, 9 August 2008 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link

The initial sharing of the bottle was so fucking phoney too.
Did anybody have a slice beyond that?

Fer Ark, Saturday, 9 August 2008 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Jimmy - what am i not getting fella me lad?

Fer Ark, Saturday, 9 August 2008 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Fer Ark: I missed the bottle sharing, as the nutters down the front on the right were blocking my sight-line (and did you clock the twerp who kept offering Popeye-style bicep-clenches to Shonna?!), but my mate told me that the old JD was getting a hammering...

mike t-diva, Monday, 11 August 2008 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

So I'm a big classic/hard rock fan, everything from Peter Green-era Fleetwood Mac to Neil to Allmans. About 10 minutes ago I finally GOT the Drive-By Truckers. I've tried before but it never worked. Anyway, the third song on Southern Rock Opera, "72," made it all clear, especially the gnarled groove ''n'riff interplay. Just awesome.

Just curious, do these guys stretch out any songs when they play live?

QuantumNoise, Friday, 15 August 2008 13:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Not really. Only the set closers, like their cover of "People Who Died" or "Buttholeville/State Trooper." Not a jam band (thank god).

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 August 2008 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks for the info. Just because you stretch out a bit doesn't mean you're a jam band though. Look at Crazy Horse, CCR and even Skynyrd at times. That's all I was wondering.

QuantumNoise, Friday, 15 August 2008 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Mike T ^ those annoying cuntocks down the front were about to get twatted.

It was like a care in the community bus trip. The idiot that tried crowd surfing looked like he'd come straight from a Limp Bizkit gig in the mid 90s.

I never realised that DBT were a teen band

Fer Ark, Friday, 15 August 2008 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link


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