The Mars Volta - "De-Loused in the Comatorium" - C/D?

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I'll say this much, when I saw what, I guess, was the alternate cover of the album -- the floating head on the water and the extended tentacle/brain matter/ropy whatever reaching down into the depths below it -- I was honestly creeped the hell out.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 August 2003 18:35 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
wow i havent heard this much energy on an album in a long time

Pablo Cruise (chaki), Thursday, 30 October 2003 09:48 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
Okay, so I was in the record store at they had a new 'live & cheap' (I know I saw both those words on the cover anyway) Mars Volta cd for $6. It's 40 min long and fucking awesome, better than De-loused. Sure, some of the improv lapses into Whole Lotta Love territory, but it's nice to hear a rock band improvising in their own idiom and it's got so much confidence behind it.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:03 (twenty years ago) link

also i know some critics are trying to win pc points by calling out their fellow reviewers for racism for making the santana connection, but, um there actually are some latin, santana-esque rhythms here, so it's totally appropriate.

i interviewed them recently for Mojo, and Omar expounded at length about his love for latin music... Jordan, tell us more about Live And Cheap!! is it legit?

stevie (stevie), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 14:12 (twenty years ago) link

Well, the album made my Top 10 for the year, easily.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 14:31 (twenty years ago) link

Tracklist:

1) Roulette Dares (The Haunt of)
2) Drunkship of Lanterns
3) Cicatriz ESP
4) Televators

Live from a couple '03 shows in London, 42 min. total. I only listened to the first half in the car last night, but it's great. The sound is really clear and thick, and I think they make more sense as a band live (not that the studio album isn't really good, but they have a lot more dynamics live and just sound unleashed in general).

There's a really crushing moment when an improv ends up in free time and they stop on a dime and go into the main riff to (I think) Drunkship of Lanterns.

Oh, they use some triggered electronic beats every now and then, not really in conjunction with the live rhythm section though.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 14:55 (twenty years ago) link

Personally, I like _Deloused_. I'm not gonna marry it or anything, but I liked it alright.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 16:23 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
Brilliant album. Catch them live before you make any judgements otherwise.

mentalist (mentalist), Saturday, 24 January 2004 03:50 (twenty years ago) link

this album got a whole hearted 'meh' from me.
i tried, i really did. i tried to sit through it.
but, damned if geddy lee's vocal just kill me!
musically, it's just kinda there. it's murky and very prog.
i passed on the live show. 45 bucks didn't sound right to see a band try to replicate profound mythick noise.

strangely, that's also how i feel about radiohead.

eedd, Saturday, 24 January 2004 13:52 (twenty years ago) link

I'll be seeing these guys open for A Perfect Circle, I believe, so I will ponder duly.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 January 2004 16:24 (twenty years ago) link

I have been enjoying the live ep much more than the record.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 24 January 2004 16:41 (twenty years ago) link

Silly. Very, very silly. But classic all the same.

Chris Jones (Crackity Jones), Saturday, 24 January 2004 21:57 (twenty years ago) link

The lyrics are completely meaningless - it's the sometimes-
menacing music and his whining tone that make them sound
depressing. But the level of energy and inventiveness on
display definitely make it a "fun" record to listen to.

This is a highly diverse album, but it's at least 1/2 pure
unmitigated prog.
If you love this but don't know shit about prog, I suggest
you investigate.

squirlplise, Sunday, 25 January 2004 00:09 (twenty years ago) link

I think its ok. I haven't listened to a lot of prog, but it doesn't seem like it has any super fast speed rush parts in it (this is what makes it not a piece of shit), which Mars Volta does (am I wrong here?). So I think its not exactly correct to just call it prog.

The best part about music like this is they can pretend to be influenced by free-jazz and krautrock, which I believe was mentioned in their press stuff. I actually think there are less absurdly pretentious lyrics than ATDI suffered from occasionally.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Sunday, 25 January 2004 00:23 (twenty years ago) link

I know nothing much about prog, but there is undoubtedly a prog influence there. Along with a host of others. Heck some of their live songs seem to go obe for over half an hour. Still I reckon anyone should see them live before making complete judgements and before passing them off completely.

mentalist (mentalist), Sunday, 25 January 2004 12:40 (twenty years ago) link

Prog does indeed have super fast speed rush parts - but these
are usually played on keyboards, not distorted guitar. And
Mars Volta differs strongly from prog in it's dissonant harmonies;
prog can be dissonant, but in a structured sort of way, influenced
by jazz and modern classical; Volta's dissonance is
more chaotic and distinctly hardcore in nature.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 25 January 2004 14:45 (twenty years ago) link

what yous aid Squirrel

In my heightened state when I saw them I thought they were unique, impossible to pigeonhole. Whenever I thought they sounded like prog, then they sounded latin, then electronic bleeps would appear, then jazz, then the spirit of Led Zeppelin (particularly 'Percy' Plant). Their latin and Santana ifluence was evident by the bongo drummer, and the guitarist at times. The music was very rhythmic, yet rarely conventionally 'groovy' (maybe that's why I thought prog). The blistering passion they put into the live performance is matched by their delivery. I was sold.

Someone say they're crap.

mentalist (mentalist), Sunday, 25 January 2004 15:06 (twenty years ago) link

"They're crap!"

But I actually don't think that, I like 'em.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 25 January 2004 18:24 (twenty years ago) link

Someone say they're crap.

I think they're crap... I can't listen to the album at all. Oddly I don't hate them as much as I hate other things which I can bear to listen to, I understand why some people might love them... but I think it's just an unredeemable mess.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 25 January 2004 19:54 (twenty years ago) link

I put this album in the same category as _The Black Album_
(what's with THAT title?) and Ludacris's latest disc:
I like it, but not enough to say, spend actual money on.
I didn't go into this expecting greatness, so I wasn't
dissapointed.

One last note: Although I much prefer_Deloused_ to
_Relationship Of Command_, no one Mars Volta song approaches
"One Armed Scissor" (one of my favorite singles of
the century, to date).

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 25 January 2004 22:39 (twenty years ago) link

the new live ep is kicking my ass

Pablo Cruise (chaki), Sunday, 25 January 2004 22:40 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
I've decided that I really and truly like this record now (after wanting to like it more than I actually did at first). Whaddyaknow, it was a grower. Hearing the live EP helped as well.

The singer still sounds like Geddy Lee sometimes. This bothers me if I think about it too hard.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 20:28 (twenty years ago) link

is the live e.p. 2 tracks, 72 mins long?

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 20:32 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
this record confuses me.

benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 27 June 2004 12:46 (nineteen years ago) link

part of it seems like it should be right up my alley, and then...

benito mussolinington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 27 June 2004 12:47 (nineteen years ago) link

The pile-everything-on maximalist aesthetic can almost never go wrong with me. this album's like one huge asklhiasoghsd;glo.

Ade (Adrian Langston), Sunday, 27 June 2004 12:58 (nineteen years ago) link

XFM sessions are kicking my ass

Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Sunday, 27 June 2004 15:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I sold this.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 27 June 2004 15:12 (nineteen years ago) link

XFM sessions

What's this?

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 27 June 2004 16:37 (nineteen years ago) link

i know what you mean benito. the live ep is kinda cool because it has organs.

artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 27 June 2004 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link

which ones? the gallbladder is my fav...

harshaw (jube), Sunday, 27 June 2004 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't remember. I only listened to it twice. BTW if anyone wants their first EP the can have my copy.

artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 27 June 2004 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link

My spleen has drawbars.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 27 June 2004 17:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I read a recent copy of Alternative Press and they were all on about this 'prog emo'. Multiple articles mentoned that that Coheed and Cambria album was a stone colde classic as if it were an ultimate truth. Good read.

artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 27 June 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link

BTW the first emo prog album was by Happy Go Licky. Oh, you haven't heard of them? Oh, you poor ignorant philistine, allow me to also teach you about the greatness of this band called Sunny Day Real Estate.

artdamages (artdamages), Sunday, 27 June 2004 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link

"Multiple articles mentoned that that Coheed and Cambria album was a stone colde classic as if it were an ultimate truth"

My lil' sister's boyfriend was trying to get me into Coheed and Cambria. They suck ASS. But he's only 17 so I let him off the hook.

I like Mars Volta though.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 27 June 2004 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link

The one Coheed and Cambria song I heard (saw the video on MTV2) really, really sucked. Glad I heard it before I sprang for the album based on hype.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 27 June 2004 22:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I hear the Mars Volta smokes a lot of crack. They are handsome, IMO. At first I didn't want to like them, but now I think I'd like to. I don't yet, but I will listen closer. The key, perhaps, is hearing them stoned. I'll get around to this.

Coheed & Cambria don't deserve our attention. Let's not talk about them.

Sonny A. (Keiko), Sunday, 27 June 2004 22:52 (nineteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

Stone. Cold. Classic.

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 01:24 (nine years ago) link

Best thing they ever did as The Mars Volta, IMO.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link

Frances the Mute is amazing too. Amputechture is goofy but great. Bedlam was bloated and spotty, didn't bother with last two. My favorite band in 2005

when is the new Jim O'Rourke album coming out (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 18:00 (nine years ago) link

i don't think anything mars volta did is classic but i love that you guys do. i am happy they exist

marcos, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link

four years pass...

tremulant ep still goes so hard and i've come a place where it's their best release

flappy bird, Friday, 23 August 2019 04:00 (four years ago) link

completely perfect ep

flappy bird, Friday, 23 August 2019 04:00 (four years ago) link

To answer the question of the OP: It's the only Mars Volta I ever really liked.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 23 August 2019 06:27 (four years ago) link

I know a guy who recently bought the 1-of-1, original cover art pieces for De-Loused in the Comatorium — both the gold head and the severed head versions — and now has them framed and hanging on his wall, which still kinda blows my mind.

ilxor, Friday, 23 August 2019 06:44 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

they added the pre-release version of comatorium to their bandcamp: https://themarsvoltaofficial.bandcamp.com/album/landscape-tantrums-unfinished-original-recordings-of-de-loused-in-the-comatorium

i listened to this version about 1000 times on a burned CDR before the album came out

total classic btw

diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Sunday, 27 March 2022 18:45 (two years ago) link

jon theodore is a fucking beast, his drumming on this still blows me away as much as it did when i first heard it

diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Sunday, 27 March 2022 18:49 (two years ago) link

Did not know about the original versions now on their bandcamp, thanks!
Good old alb, though takes some getting used to, worth it.
Included with some other outliers in a Voice round-up I did back in Nov. ov '03:
Mars Volta. Whose big bananaspots slip electrically elsewhere: through stabs
of light (purple bursts of trans WhoZepYesRush-
QueenQueensJaneRageSystemRedHotFugaziSantanaAtTheDrive-InEmoScreamo trajectory),
which nevertheless tend
to bounce off crystalline towers of voice, on account of "Joycean wordplay" in
the midst of Revelation. It's a challenge, but appropriately so. For inst.
(one of their easier pieces), song-title "Cicatriz esp" can refer to headshrink
and/or vaccination mark: Either way, you're in goood hands, Mr.
De-loused at the Comatarium blackhole-visionary guy. Whose defiantly
creative/self-destructive internal cosmography (runs) rings through
ricochet-maze/shields of gloved ones Mars Volta's implosively arty art. Once, before
artist-junkie-De-Loused dedicatee Julio Venagas woke up and finally succeeded in killing
himself, he and MVs/ex- At The Drive-Ins Cedric and Omar were friends, and it shows.
Awww. It's true!

dow, Sunday, 27 March 2022 20:08 (two years ago) link

Very fun album. Cedric is a good instagram follow for old wrestling clips, though his recent Will Smith take was lame

hrep (H.P), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 05:46 (two years ago) link


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