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So in the end, I managed to find Letzte Tage Letzte Nacht. Not at all what I was expecting but its pretty fantastic.

Baaderonixx cancels each other out (Fabfunk), Friday, 22 July 2005 13:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
okay i went nuts this weekend and bought a shitload of these reissues from a tower records. i was so happy to find them all in one place so i got:
aguirre
in den garten pharaos
affenstunde
seligpreisung
letze tage, letze nachte
hosianna mantra

so i'm listening to the first in the list, aguirre, on headphones and... WTF THERE ARE LOUD VINYL POPS ALL OVER THIS BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i don't even want to listen to the others now. all i can think about is the money i shelled out for SHITTY VINYL TO CD TRANSFERS.

amon (eman), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 01:09 (twelve years ago) Permalink

okay i've calmed down a tiny bit. i just compared aguirre with this cd comp i have featuring an aguirre track. the sound quality is def. better on this rerelease, the stereo range esp., but that popping and crackling... could it actually be on the tape itself? so far "in den garten pharaos" sounds incredible.

amon (eman), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 01:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

AFAIK, all "Aguirre" releases are semi-bootleg, I don't know that Florian Fricke ever sanctioned any of them - in fact, he said, regarding the original album, that somebody had "stolen" the tapes and put them out without his knowledge (likewise the "Yoga" album). I don't know if any of these CDs are from original master tapes, I don't know if the original masters of the music from "Aguirre" even exist anymore.

Diddyismus the Blind (of Alexandria) (Dada), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:54 (twelve years ago) Permalink

thanks! i was worried that these were all going to be like those Fall cd rereleases that were straight from vinyl, skips and all. i listened through the rest of the cds and the only other things i heard pops on were the two "in den garten pharaos" bonus tracks.

i'm really amazed at how good these albums are. and i've only got about half of them. apparently when you line all the cds up the spines will form an image which i believe is the same one of fricke on the back cover. the repetitive booklets seem kind of lazy but whatever.

anyone notice how Black Dice sound like "Affenstunde"?

amon (eman), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm also disappointed about the general booklets and the complete lack of album specific content...
I got Letzte Tage, which one should I go for next?

Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"Einsjager", "Das Hohelied Salomos" and "Herz aus Glas" are in a similar (rocky) vein

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

where can the full "spirit of peace" thing be found? is it on a rerelease?

amon (eman), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 01:04 (twelve years ago) Permalink

six months pass...
as Dadaismus mentions upthread, many Popol Vuh fans await some of the unreleased? music from the films Aguirre and The Great Ecstasy Of The Woodcarver Steiner. THE tune I want (have wanted for 20+ years since I first saw Aguirre) features in both, if I remember. it appears in Aguirre while the roiling river is shown - as the relentless chaotic grind of nature burbles furiously - eternal suspended out-of-time chords like a bowed guitar effect (volume control fade-ups?) sound. this same music opens Steiner, soundtracking his slow-motion flight.

the music for both films is credited to Fricke. and it's easily possible to imagine this piece made by Popol Vuh, although it doesn't sound quite like anything else I've heard by them. could it be the piece is by someone else? (if so, ideas please?!) however, similar chords seem to sound in some more Vuh-like music that appears later in Steiner - so maybe it's just an intro to a longer piece.

due to the number of comments all around (check internet) about unreleased Herzog Popol Vuh, I'm guessing the same piece struck a chord with others...

Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 18 March 2006 05:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Does anyone know if there's a place on the web that has Popol Vuh's lyrics? I want to figure out a line that Fricke is singing on one of the songs on Seligspreisung...

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 18 March 2006 17:54 (twelve years ago) Permalink

http://www.venco.com.pl/~acrux/selig.htm

1. "Selig sind, die da hungern
Selig sind, die da dürsten nach Gerechtigkeit
Ja, sie sollen satt werden." 5:59

2. "Tanz der Chassidim" 3:12

3. "Selig sind, die da hier weinen
Ja, sie sollen später lachen." 5:07

4. "Selig sind, die da willig arm sind
Ja, ihrer ist das Himmelreich." 3:10

5. "Selig sind, die da Leid tragen
Ja, sie sollen getröstet werden." 3:39

6. "Selig sind die Sanfmütigen
Ja, sie werden einst die Erde erben." 2:30

7. "Selig sind, die da reinen Herzens sind
Ja, sie sollen Gott schauen." 2:33

8. "Ja, sie sollen Gottes Kinder heissen
Agnus dei, Agnus dei." 2:39

o -- (eman), Saturday, 18 March 2006 19:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Excellent! Thanks a lot for the post...
I was trying to figure out Track #6 (breathtaking song). I caught the "Ja, sie werden" but couldn't make out the rest of it.

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 18 March 2006 20:12 (twelve years ago) Permalink

actually the rest of that site is pretty good. thought this was kind of funny:

"YOGA is an unauthorized release. Some Indian musicians visited me in my studio, and somebody else took the tapes and sold them under the name of Popol Vuh, but it had nothing to do with Popol Vuh, really. I'm playing harmonium and organ. I think it was released in Italy."

Florian Fricke, interview on Eurock.com

o -- (eman), Saturday, 18 March 2006 21:26 (twelve years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...
Pashmina, does the Agape-Agape remastered CD sound worse than the vinyl record to you? I'm wondering if I should bother getting it on CD - I'd like to do this with many of my albums for space reasons, but I don't want to get something that sounds worse than what I already have.

Pangolino 2, Monday, 17 April 2006 23:25 (twelve years ago) Permalink

letzte tage letzte nachte is so good!

pssst - badass revolutionary art! (plsmith), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:31 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Yes, Letzte is still far and away my favorite of theirs...The "Harum Dei Rarum Dei" chant is very beautiful, the way it shifts from minor to major key.

Joe (Joe), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:51 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Das Hohelied Salomos is where it's at.

nervous.gif (eman), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 04:25 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I read that SPV are reissuing Sei Still, weisse ICH BIN, For You and Me, Cobra Verde and Brueder des Schattens, Soehne des Lichts on CD in their digipack series. Didn't their edition of the Nosferatu soundtrack have all of "Brueder des Schattens..." except with a short version of the title song along the music that was on the old "Nosferatu" LP? I was hoping they'd be clearing up some of the weirdness in the catalogue with the reissues, but maybe not. I guess "Spirit of Peace" isn't out yet, either, but they'll be dealing with all the different labels Popol Vuh were on in the late 70's onward, so maybe these last ones are trickier.

Ricki Belloni (Pangolino 3), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 04:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Just picked up Sei Still, weisse ICH BIN. really nice choir vocals throughout. Now all I need is Brueder des Schattens, Soehne des Lichts.
I also saw a new Popol Vuh compilation on SPV called 70s Progressives. As far as I could tell it was stuff from other albums but not entirely sure. Anyone know if any of the tracks are unreleased? Here is the Amazon listing: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F7MB1Y/104-2466127-0630344?v=glance&n=5174

Q('.'Q) (eman), Saturday, 10 June 2006 22:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

woot

a.b. (alanbanana), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

oh i guess i need cobra verde too. man i'm so ghey for this group.

Q('.'Q) (eman), Thursday, 15 June 2006 21:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

and thx for the emusic link, i'm using the free trial to get them shits

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 02:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Actually a lot of the bonus trax on these releases look as if they're well worth having - but do they actually give you any proper information on what they are and where they're from? The titles of some of the tracks look suspiciously made up too - i.e., record company find untitled piece on tape, "Uhhhhhhhh, what will we call this one?" "How 'bout "King Minos Part 4" or "Aguirre Part 27"?"

Il mio nome e' Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 June 2006 08:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

There's no information about the extras. The reissues are dissapointing generally in this respect.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 16 June 2006 09:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

haa yeah bonus tracks.. more like bogus tracks. they remind me of the bonus tracks on the amon duul 2 remasters where they are just slightly varied alternate versions of tracks on other albums. i think the only exception to this so far is the long one on "affenstunde", which turns out to be better than the actual album. otherwise they aren't really anything to get worked up about. if i get a chance, i'll go through and list matching bonus tracks to albums.

listened to some of cobra verde last night, half of it sounds like a gas album without the buried house thump, fucking awesome.

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 11:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

yo eman, if you want to settle for a tape of Brueder Des Schattens... let me know. hell, i could probably rip the thing. it's only like four tracks or something.

electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

ian, got it already but thanks. i'll probably end up buying it anyway

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

the two bonus tracks on In den Gärten des Pharaos treated me really well. reminded me of that '71 beat club TV piece, when they were just doing slabs of moog drone -- very simple stuff but their aim is true

that 'Train Through Time' track on the Affenstunde reissue I like better than the album!

the Aguirre bonus track is basically the title theme one more time with one extra overdub, probably not worth buying the album again if you've already got it, but I don't mind hearing it three times a sitting

very curious about that 70's Progressives compilation, someone figure out what that is and post back.

I still don't have all the 70's albums, I'm kind of spacing out the purchases at this point, savoring each new one. I just finally bought Hosianna Mantra, zero gravity

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

70's progs comp is just like "the best-loved songs of PV," as far as i could tell - i just saw it for the first time the other night

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

tracklisting for "70s Progressives" w/ album names

1. Wanderer Am Himmel 8:18 (?)
2. They Danced, They Laughed, As Of Old 4:50 (Agape-Agape)
3. Eastern Sunrise 4:12 (?)
4. Am Tor 3:47 (?)
5. Love-Love 5:24 (Agape-Agape)
6. Der Große Krieger 3:10 (Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte)
7. Wo Bist Du? 5:40 (Der Nacht der Seele)
8. Dort Ist Der Weg 4:29 (Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte)
9. In Deine Hände 3:01 (Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte)
10. Calling You 4:42 (?)
11. Oh Wie Nah Ist Der Weg Hinab 4:36 (Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte)

the 4 tracks i couldn't place only had a reference to what looks like another comp. called "florian fricke"
http://www.progarchives.com//Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=6250

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 21:03 (twelve years ago) Permalink

AMG sez they're from Herz aus Glas

a.b. (alanbanana), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

ah there you go then. what's up with the track titles differing between amazon and amg?

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:35 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Downloaded three albums *for free* from emusic last night, Affenstunde, Hosianna Mantra, and Einsager whatever. Could have had four if it wasn't for the extra tracks, and too lazy to work this out beforehand, so I got three Colourbox tracks as well.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Just got the two fer, Einsjäger und Siebenjäger/Letzte Tage, letzte Nächte at Wayside, a great deal for $18. I'm loving the serpentine guitar solos on Letzte -- a few moments almost sounded like Television!

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:19 (eleven years ago) Permalink

... I often describe Daniel Fichelscher's guitar playing as a cross between David Gilmour and Tom Verlaine... in fact, I'm surprised I hadn't done so on this thread till now!

One Man's Mede Is Another Man's Persian (Dada), Friday, 8 September 2006 09:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Up above I forgot to mention this album:

http://www.enricobassi.it/playsmozartfrontpic.JPG

... which I haven't heard, but I think I can imagine what it sounds like, and which I used to see a lot in one record shop in Glasgow and almost bought until I realised I was a fan not a fool

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 08:00 (eleven years ago) Permalink

So, are these albums all worthless then or what?

Sing, For Song Drives Away The Wolves
Shepherd's Symphony
For Me And You
City Raga

I see them around cheap-ish, but life's too short to be a completist if they really are that bad.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 08:30 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I've played "Shepherd's Symphony" once and "City Raga", errrrrrrr, once also - so I wouldn't bother, personally. I quite like some of "For Me And You" (the bits that sound like Popol Vuh funnily enough). Never heard "Sing, For Song Drives Away The Wolves", it's re-recordings or re-mixings (sic) of old material, don't see the attraction in that.

However, have heard good reports on "Messa Di Orfeo", which is from 1999ish, have never actually seen a copy tho.

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 08:35 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Messa di Orfeo seems kind of hard to find. It was only issued by some European label. I spent a while looking for it on Gemm.com, but never found a really good price. From what I heard of it on last.fm, it sounds amazing though. Way way better than the other Popol Vuh album I ended up buying.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
Played "City Raga" again, it's rubbish, avoid it like the plague, I beseech thee

TS: Mick Ralphs v. Ariel Bender (Dada), Thursday, 5 October 2006 10:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

Daniel Fichelscher's guitar playing is awesome and inspirational. Remember when ILM was informative ?

Geordie Racer, Friday, 1 June 2007 12:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

messa di orfeo is actually pretty good

am0n, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Still not heard it. It's Florian tho and not Guido Hieronymous clogging everything up and ruining it?

Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 14:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

right

Messa di Orfeo (Spalax, 1998) documents a 1998 multimedia installation by Fricke (keyboards), Fiedler (video), Guillermina De Germano (vocals) and Maya Rose (vocals)

am0n, Friday, 1 June 2007 17:00 (eleven years ago) Permalink

This reminds me that I gotta get Cobra Verde OST this month when my eMusic creds refresh.

The big question about Fichelscher is where the hell is he? What does he do with his hands instead of doing that Kleiner Krieger thang?

Jon Lewis, Friday, 1 June 2007 17:12 (eleven years ago) Permalink

hey the search engine's finding this thread again, it was lost for a while. I was trying to wake it up to say how good Messa di Orfeo is.

the first time the recitational comes on, I thought 'ok I could listen to that woman's voice forever', and was happyy when it turns out they were thinking exactly the same thing. and the return to electronics really works -- the sampled crickets & insect harmonics are great. finally found a copy of the CD this weekend and the booklet's filled with color photos of the recording sessions & installation, including De Germano at the mic and a picture of the huge chorus.

also been listening to Hosianna Mantra a _lot_ these last few months. you really have to be in a wispy mood I guess but sometimes I think this one's my favorite

Milton Parker, Friday, 1 June 2007 18:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

lately i've been listening to:
-bruder des schattens-sohne des lichts
-Letzte Tage, Letzte Nächte
-Herz aus Glas

that mid seventies stuff reallllly does it for me.

ian, Friday, 1 June 2007 18:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

remembered to check for pv on emusic, got four albs, and the first three tracks of hosianna mantra have been blowing my mind all day

69, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 20:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

i guess i gotta listen to that one again. My copy has a bit of surface noise and it always agitates me. Does emusic have Bruder des Schattens? That's my fave, probably.

ian, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah it does - i ran out of DL's though before i could get it

69, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:07 (ten years ago) Permalink


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