Best Martin Scorsese movie

I also enjoyed The Aviator which I guess makes me crazy.
Voting KoC.

"one day, a great rain will come and wash the scum BLAH BLAH BLAH FUCK YOU PAY ME.

Cassavetes, after seeing this film, hugged Scorsese and said, "Martin, you just spent a year of your life making shit!"

As if there weren't enough reasons already to worship JC.

Boxcar Bertha is certainly better than Cape Fear

Cape Fear is definitely towards the bottom of his oeuvre. But even there, Scorsese shows some remarkable subtlety. For the first thirty, forty minutes or so, his camera never meets a tripod, gliding all over the place as if it were resting on melted butter....until the scene where the killer and the daughter first talk (on a deserted stage, IIRC). And finally the camera calms down and we get a classic, even rote shot-reverse shot editing pattern during the conversation. Only now, after all that swirling, the rigid back-and-forth becomes unbearably intense.

There's nothing remotely like that in Boxcar Bertha.

No, but there is Barbara Hershey's tits.

Yeah but there is no De Niro's tits.

No, but there is Barbara Hershey's tits.

to be fair scorsese didn't have much involvement in producing those

at least he didn't spend a year of his life making A Woman under the Influence...

Hinckley's lousy aim is not Schrader & Scorsese's fault.

CONTROPS

"Marty! Kundun! I liked it!"

definetely After Hours, no contest at all.

(btw just watched the original Cape Fear and it beats the .. out of his remake, which, I guess was supposed to be funny)

at least he didn't spend a year of his life making A Woman under the Influence...

Oooh looks like a JC poll is up next if it hasn't been done already. That should bring out all the lovers.

wait til the box set comes out, KJ. (Chinese Bookie for me)

also, if King of Comedy wins this poll, Eric might watch it.

Looking at this list makes me realise that I only really like Taxi Driver, The King Of Comedy and After Hours. And The Big ShaveCape Fear.

fixed

Voted After Hours, anyway.

wait til the box set comes out, KJ. (Chinese Bookie for me)

Another Cassavetes box set is coming out? Links? (Love Streams forever and always)

Voting Casino in the absence of Gangs.

absence of gags

oh I'm sorry; they're releasing Cassavetes titles from an old Criterion box as singles. My mistake.

"Marty! Kundun! I liked it!"

lololololol

I like New York New York (first one I saw in a theater)

Italianamerican is a hoot

Ever see the Freaky Friday remake with Lindsey Lohan? Her waking up out of bed with her mom inside her body was straight up "Rubber Biscuit" Harvey Keitel.

Italianamerican is a hoot

wish this would come out on dvd already

but for now unfortunately and appropriately Italianamerican is a boot

i think these ones are great (to varying degrees): taxi driver, king of comedy, goodfellas

honorable mentions: mean streets, last waltz, after hours

ho-hummest: the departed

overratededest: raging bull

best film since goodfellas (challop): gangs of n.y.

other ones that i would watch again: new york, new york; last temptation; age of innocence

still need to see: casino

(voted taxi driver because i saw it at an impressionable age and it pretty well blew me away)

goodfellas.

King of Comedy. I was tempted by Last Temptation - I recently re-watched it and was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. I don't enjoy much of the rest of his work, even though I admire some of it.

Just a quick bit of love for "Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore," which is devastating.

(and which I just fucked up and failed to vote for)

With apologies to Jerry Lewis, that's the Scorsese movie I'm most looking forward to seeing.

Casino just felt like GF2. Watching it that way, it fell way short.

I saw Casino in the theater, before ever having seen Goodfellas. That being the case, I've always perceived Goodfellas as sort of a rough draft and incomplete tale that was later retold and perfected with Casino. It's all about context I guess, but I think I'd even prefer Casino if I'd seen Goodfellas first. Casino has the meatier story.

Most overrated: Goodfellas
-- Eric H., Friday, August 15, 2008 2:32 PM (2 hours ago)

silly. wouldn't most overrated go to say, taxi driver? or raging bull?
-- s1ocki, Friday, August 15, 2008 4:54 PM (1 hour ago)

Goodfellas, easy.
-- nate woolls, Friday, August 15, 2008 7:07 AM (2 hours ago)
-- rent, Friday, August 15, 2008 2:21 PM (3 hours ago)
-- Jordan, Friday, August 15, 2008 12:45 PM (Friday, August 15, 2008 12:45 PM)
-- Pleasant Plains, Friday, August 15, 2008 6:32 PM (6 minutes ago)

-- Eric H., Friday, August 15, 2008 6:41 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Link

o man, 4 ilx posters like this movie. i can see why you needed to get out there and shake up the establishment, that shit is stifling.

Ugh, Cassavetes. You people need to realize that 3/4ths of his catalogue is shit.

i'd post that in the RONG thread but someone already did that to me today so i'll end the vicious circle of violence

never been a fan of jc

haha -- I made my comment fully aware that it might go in the RONG thread.

Just ask yourself, Soto: WWJCD?

Casino:
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Goodfellas was a much better movie, but the Pesci scenes aren't anywhere near as good. "You think I'm funny?" scene = way overrated.

Just ask yourself, Soto: WWJCD?

Hm?

I'm voting for No Direction Home.

What Would John Cassavetes Do?
xpost

He'd listen to Le Tigre.

All the Bringing Out The Dead lurve is pleasantly surprising. That's my pick. I've seen probably half of Scorcese's films and I generally find his stuff pretty underwhelming. I just think he's maybe not really my thing, and Bringing Out... is different enough from his usual shtick that he managed to move more into "my thing" territory.

Goodfellas and The Departed were "fun" enough. Taxi Driver and Raging Bull are two of the most overrated movies of that era. I can barely remember anything about the other Scorceses that I've seen, aside from the fact that they didn't leave much of an impression one way or the other.

o man, 4 ilx posters like this movie. i can see why you needed to get out there and shake up the establishment, that shit is stifling.

OK, when the results go up and GoodFellas gets no more than 4 votes, you can feel free to throw that back in my face. And I'll take it back and say no it's not his most overrated. Just his worst.

That said, I'm no big Scorsese fan in the first place. Taxi Driver and Last Temptation are about the only two films of his I really love.

Say what you will about one Best Picture nominee being more overrated than the five other Best Picture nominees, but to call GoodFellas his worst? you crazy.

it's contrarianism gone amuck!

how about this: whichever wins this poll is his most overrated unless it's the one i picked.

wow, Eric being a real Paulette re Goodfellas!

(Kael was cold about it not having a "gangster hero," which is kinda wtf)

and yeah Kundun is his last interesting one (aside from the film-history surveys)