PS:T runs on Win95, so i guess it's however you can hack it to run that way.
however, i did find that you can buy BG2 from Macplay
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link
tho much of PS:T would influence bits of BG2(same engine & all).
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:31 (eighteen years ago) link
like a GbV songtitle or somethin'
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link
x-post haha I was about to post about how much I love the brothel!
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link
The rumor was quietly confirmed not too long ago by a few of the principals...
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link
xp: yeah I love how at the beginning morte goes on about the journal for ages and you just assume it's in yr inventory or will be soon but NO...
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link
a neat little review about the game, tho kinda inaccurrate in parts(intelligence isn't the chief skill; WISDOM is)
also, it mentions one thing i forgot: that you can use tattoos for drastic stat changes.
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 20:22 (eighteen years ago) link
But you do find a way to eventually get both stats up to 25.
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 20:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link
So does intelligence!
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeffrey (johnson), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link
Out on GOG for ten bucks.If I get and play this is it too outdated to enjoy or...?
― Muscus ex Craneo Humano (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link
bear in mind it'll be my first time trying it.
I haven't played an rpg in a while but I would think that there still would be a lot of fresh elements in this game, which by the way owned when I played it yrs ago
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link
The game is a serious, all-time classic. But I will break it to you, the gameplay itself is not the greatest, it wasn't even back then. The combat and character progression (in terms of D&D rules and stats) is not as strict or complex as Baldur's Gate and not as fun as Fallout's. Torment leans much more towards BG, though, one of the game's chief mechanics is how far along you want to go on the good/evil and lawful/chaos scales. There's a conscious design decision that you can avoid a lot of the combat, and I'd even recommend you go straight to a magic/high wisdom or intelligence build for the best dialogue options; in some ways it's better to treat this as an adventure game.
Also, do you like reading in RPGs? This has an absurd amount of text - but what's crazier is that a lot of it is really good, as are the story and characterizations. You can click on lots of things and get lots of descriptions. There's lots of secrets and alternate paths to take, though it's more linear than the two mentioned titles.
My hesitation is that, if I remember right, you couldn't really get into Fallout, which uses a similar same 2D point-and-click engine and also had a dark, sometimes over-serious tone. But Torment has so much more going on creatively, in terms of fiction, thematically, and the variance in environments and people. The world of Sigil itself is so much more interesting than 99% of fantasy settings.
Short version: this game is really awesome and yes you should play it. I don't think Torment's story or inherent ingenuity will ever become outdated (ironic considering it starts with the old amnesiac cliche). I might pick it up in a few months just to not have to ever dig out my 6-CD swapping retail version.
(Actually this seems like a decent choice for a IPC revival, if you wanna put in the work again lol)
― Nhex, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah there is a fucking shit ton of reading and the resolution leaves alot to be desired. It should be smaller but its not and the screen looks kinda awkward compared to todays standards. But its still an amazing game and should be fun to play when you dont have to switch all the fucking discs out back and forth.
― mayor jingleberries, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link
I'd try it. It's really dear to me - as someone who loves the fantasy genre and has reservations about how it's usually deployed it was pretty startling, and if you feel the same way, I don't think it'd date particularly.
I couldn't get into fallout either, but that's because the setting didn't do much for me - to enjoy this you basically need "reading a lot of weird cool fantasy literature" to be a big draw.
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link
i played through it with a really high intelligence/wisdom and the amount of reading got to be too much. if i played it again i'd go with more average smarts so i wouldn't get so bogged down.
― my sex drew back into itself tight and dry (abanana), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 01:36 (thirteen years ago) link
thanks for the heads up nhex et al; i'll put this on the list of future potential time sinks.
― Muscus ex Craneo Humano (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 04:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Also good positives: the character interaction is really interesting and fun to explore, cool plot twists and hilarious ways to kill yourself.
― mayor jingleberries, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link
I couldn't get into fallout either, but I've made a start on this now, and am totally loving it.
― JimD, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link
i haven't tried this, but i saw it linked in various places:
http://thunderpeel2001.blogspot.com/2009/01/planescape-torment-fully-modded.html
you can skip the first two steps if you have the GOG version
― Nhex, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link
i miss having a pc :(
― goole, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link
alright, i'm gonna give it a try with the nhex changes and see where it gets me
― high speed p-diddy-esque shrimping vessel (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Downloaded the GOG version and went through all the steps from Nhex's link and the resolution is great, the game loads smoothly and I'm gonna roll up a character here in just a sec. Kinda excited! How long of a game is this? A week? Two weeks?
― high speed p-diddy-esque shrimping vessel (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link
I was going to say it's really really long, but then I realized my memories are totally colored by the crappy summer during which I played it, so maybe it wasn't as long as I thought. Also, all the disc swapping for each area made it feel longer too. Perhaps someone else could objectively assess it...
― Nhex, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 05:15 (thirteen years ago) link
right at the very beginning, this is instantly awesomealso it's great to play a game that has NO LOAD TIME and is still fun
― high speed p-diddy-esque shrimping vessel (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
yay
― I got yr comedy modding right here (HI DERE), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link
This is probably my favorite game of all time
urg and it just crashed when i got out of the mortuary... hopefully not a replicable bug.
― high speed p-diddy-esque shrimping vessel (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
damn this thing crashes a lot
― high speed p-diddy-esque shrimping vessel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 7 October 2010 04:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Really? Mine's been fine so far (apart from a recurring crash-on-exit, but that doesn't seem to do any harm).
― JimD, Thursday, 7 October 2010 10:21 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, i've had four crashes when i go into buildings.
― high speed p-diddy-esque shrimping vessel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 7 October 2010 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link
my cd copy used to crash when I tried to enter the mortuary from the front door. easily gotten around, of course :)
― my sex drew back into itself tight and dry (abanana), Thursday, 7 October 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link
WTF
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/01/09/planescape-torment-sequel/#more-137374
What can change the nature of a sequel?Post-Planescape: Fargo Reveals The Future Of Torment
By Alec Meer on January 9th, 2013 at 5:00 pm
...RPS – Where are inXile up to in terms of designing this thing, given you’ve presumably incredibly busy with Wasteland? Will you be working on it concurrently with Wasteland or saving it for later?Fargo: We’re very early in Torment’s preproduction right now. We have a basic story outline, design sketches of the major characters, and thematic concepts defined. Wasteland 2 is in full production and we don’t want to detract from that focus. But with that said, the writers on Wasteland are complete for the most part and the concept artists are not involved at this stage in the game. The guys working on Torment are no longer working on Wasteland 2 and I want to keep these talented guys busy for us. Typically we do begin design of the next game while the production team is working on the current one. This allows the team to take a nice break once they are complete on the current game and then come back to roll onto a design that is thorough and polished. The last thing we want to do is break up a winning team.
Fargo: We’re very early in Torment’s preproduction right now. We have a basic story outline, design sketches of the major characters, and thematic concepts defined. Wasteland 2 is in full production and we don’t want to detract from that focus. But with that said, the writers on Wasteland are complete for the most part and the concept artists are not involved at this stage in the game. The guys working on Torment are no longer working on Wasteland 2 and I want to keep these talented guys busy for us. Typically we do begin design of the next game while the production team is working on the current one. This allows the team to take a nice break once they are complete on the current game and then come back to roll onto a design that is thorough and polished. The last thing we want to do is break up a winning team.
― "It's the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Drunk!" (kingfish), Thursday, 10 January 2013 03:45 (eleven years ago) link
no kickstarter no credibility
― What am I, in France? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 January 2013 04:26 (eleven years ago) link
read the link, they mention their plans
― "It's the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Drunk!" (kingfish), Thursday, 10 January 2013 04:50 (eleven years ago) link
just bein sarcastic. but yeah, seems the time's right for it.
― What am I, in France? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 January 2013 05:44 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/torment-tides-of-numenera
― the europan nikon is here (grauschleier), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 14:31 (eleven years ago) link
damn you, kickstarter.
― Nhex, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
honestly i'm a little burned out on these
― Nhex, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
no way am i funding another kickstarter from these dudes when they haven't shipped wasteland 2. the give-us-money email very patiently explained the nature of game dev cycles or whatever but fuck yall for real, where's my game and yall want more of my money?
― adam, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
let's see one of these games come out first b4 i chip in cash to a new one - so far is ftl the only kickstarted game to be a real success?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
"This is better news than the PS4."
— ScruffTheNerfHerder
― the 'dirty sprite' is implied (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
there's a ps4?
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
not really
― the 'dirty sprite' is implied (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
Turns out they don't need adam's money now.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 7 March 2013 15:17 (eleven years ago) link
oh shit, that was quick
― "Bellini." (DJP), Thursday, 7 March 2013 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
So, if they get enough K$ dosh, can they just buy the damn Planescape name and be done with it?
― The New Jack Mormons! (kingfish), Thursday, 7 March 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
nah, they already asked Wizards of the Coast for permission and were rejected, i believe
― Nhex, Thursday, 7 March 2013 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
so kickstarter gets kicked back like 5%? is that how it works?
― adam, Thursday, 7 March 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
http://blog.beamdog.com/2017/05/developing-planescape-torment-enhanced.html
― Nhex, Saturday, 6 May 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link
Chris Avellone just got cancelled:
https://kotaku.com/multiple-women-accuse-games-writer-chris-avellone-of-se-1844135498
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link
A digest of the accusations that are being levelled against him:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/he4fhh/chris_avellone_no_longer_working_on_dying_light_2/fvp5at8?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link
Ah Christ, what a schmuck
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 25 June 2020 04:46 (three years ago) link