Kids who could never see eye to eye on anything - long hair in front vs. hair long in back, dead milkmen vs. led zeppelin, goth chicks and smiths fans, our u.s. equivalents of ravey davey and also student grant could all sing along (in a thin whinge in no way approximating perry ferrel's delivery). This is what made them great. Such extremes all in one group, Ain't No Right was like kick out the jams for us, a power-sander decadence.
It's easy to forget all that when you see pics of ferrell dj'ing progressive trance.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Stevie Nixed, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Omar, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― ethan, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Dan Perry, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Mark, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― keith, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Stevo, Friday, 4 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― K-reg, Friday, 4 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― achilles_last_stand, Saturday, 12 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Whatever this chap Stevie Nixed is taking it is clearly stronger than the bubbly orange that Jane's were partial to. For, Mr. Nixed is talking pure cock.
Jane's are incredible (though Raggett is right when he points out that Perry, for all his merits, remains eminently punchable).
All four musicians were fully out there and the ideas that permate Jane's music are ever hypnotic, hallucinatory and ecstatic. I can't get enough of these boys, even after listening to this stuff consistently for ten years.
So, classic, classic, classic. If you can't dig it, give up.
― Roger Fascist, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― DeRayMi, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
D'you think it's bad timing or coincidence that the band disolved after Ritual?
― dyson, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Another point is the production on Shocking which I find a little flat - I don't feel that Jerden and Champagne were able to get the best out of the musicians or the Jane's sound at this point, although having said that, I do dig the rawer edge and the more incendiary drum sound.
Whereas on Ritual, the guys at the controls were able to set them for the heart of the sun and that's where the music takes me. As for the first few tracks, I dunno man... from the lead-in narrative, I'm hooked and that buzzsaw Navarro riff. Jesus. Then there's that pop-bass on No One's.. Oh mama. The album is littered with winning creative decisions. Y'know, sometimes in fact, Obvious is my favourite track off Ritual though I'm not sure why. Do you get thet?
Out of curiosity, anyone know about the new Jane's material? From what I can gather of the websites out there, they are in the studio working with fucking Paul Oakenfold! Where the hell is Jerden when you need him?
― Roger Fascist, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Where I deviate from the fan party line is that I think _Nothing's Shocking_ and _Ritual De Lo Habitual_ are equal; _NS_ is more consistent, but _RdlH_ has better songs on it. If I wanted to listen to an entire album, I'd grab _NS_. If I wanted to play selected songs, I'd grab _RdlH_.
― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
OK, so it's not the Academy but it's not a bad compromise.
Better get on the blower to the ticket agencies pronto then...
Hello.
― Roger Fascist, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― ron (ron), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 03:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― ron (ron), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 03:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 04:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― ron (ron), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 04:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
uh, Neil Young? The only thing Jane's brought together were fratboys and fratgirls.
Verdict - Dud. They lie too much for truthseekers and are too pretentious to create something communal. And the junk culture stuff I have no use for.
Exception: Jane Says. Momentarily, the dream is alive. Especially when Dave Navarro isn't around.
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 14 January 2003 08:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
Classic. Shocking is only nearly classic, but Ritual is beyond classic.
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 08:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 09:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 09:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 10:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 10 October 2005 03:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Cunga (Cunga), Monday, 10 October 2005 04:06 (eighteen years ago) link
provided you skip "Been Caught Stealing."
Are you mad? (Mind you, the song always sounded better live.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 October 2005 05:13 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't know much about Farrell as a person/ality. Why is he punchable?
― Sundar (sundar), Monday, 10 October 2005 05:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 10 October 2005 06:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 October 2005 08:30 (eighteen years ago) link
Completely dud. Their brains are fried to the max. They look like shit. They're music is just plain bonkers like Zappa's: tries to be funny but fails miserably. I suspect they tried to do the sock thing but they couldn't find any baby socks...
And to think I'm reading the Brendan Mullen oral biography now. I still really don't understand why I even bothered to buy the book, even though I am not as hostile towards them as I once was. That said, PF seems to be such a dick. I also can't believe the "they are incredibly seminal, paved the way for the rest" bullshit line. I mean, maybe they were (in reality) but I refuse to believe it anyway.
― stevienixed, Monday, 11 June 2007 07:11 (sixteen years ago) link
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Classic Classic Classic
― nicky lo-fi, Monday, 11 June 2007 07:39 (sixteen years ago) link
My little sister came over the other day to rip all my Jane's Addiction CDs. Her quip: "Yeah, I've really wanted to listen to Jane's Addiction lately, but couldn't bring myself to buy them." They belong to a different era, and stick out like a sore thumb in this one. But we listened to Nothings Shocking, and it still pushed my wig back with its bombastic excellence.
Kids who could never see eye to eye on anything - long hair in front vs. hair long in back, dead milkmen vs. led zeppelin, goth chicks and smiths fans, our u.s. equivalents of ravey davey and also student grant could all sing along
Jane's pretty much united the smoking section at my high school.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 11 June 2007 07:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Classic.
Just Because.
― SeekAltRoute, Monday, 11 June 2007 10:06 (sixteen years ago) link
i like them a lot but they definitely shone in a particular time and place. it resonates a lot less now, but the succession of 'three days' and 'then she did...' is still pretty mindblowing.
― Charlie Howard, Monday, 11 June 2007 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link
I saw Satellite Party (Perry's new band) supporting Velvet Revolver on Thursday night. Never heard anything by them before, they were... ok. They did two JA songs - Stop! and Mountain Song - which got the biggest applause of the night.
It was a little bit sad though. I think maybe half of the people there knew who Perry Farrell was, half of them didn't care. People were just talking and drinking and paying no attention to this man who gave me one of the greatest nights of my life - Jane's Addiction live in a club in London in about 1987
― nate woolls, Monday, 11 June 2007 15:04 (sixteen years ago) link
I find JA kind of annoying, but I missed out on them at the time they were around, hence missing out on their cultural context, which a lot of the above comments talk about.
also, i once saw my dad flipping channels, and the "been caught stealing" video was on. He muttered, "obscene son of a bitch..." under his breath before changing the channel.
― Richard Wood Johnson, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, now (this day and age) really isn't a particularly appropriate time to be considering this question somehow
― Charlie Howard, Thursday, 26 July 2007 07:40 (sixteen years ago) link
It is crazy but also great how much of a difference he makes to their music - in some ways he’s better than they deserve but no question on my mind that i’d pony up my dollars to see that lineup again, last time was great
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 August 2022 01:36 (one year ago) link
I’m interested in this detail from Pitchfork’s Nothing Shocking review:
Jane Addiction’s convinced their new label to allow a “fake indie release” of Jane’s Addiction on Triple X Records to maintain their street cred, a strategy they accused Guns N’ Roses, Smashing Pumpkins, and Soundgarden of copying afterwards.
― west coast heat dome blues (morrisp), Sunday, 11 September 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link
so.. dave navarro not playing on the smashing pumpkins tour - due to long covid Is the official reason - weird. love that eric is back but don’t know i would enjoy a Jane’s show without Navarro
pretty good article about all of it in rolling stone, interesting on the eric/perry rapprochement
― meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 07:57 (one year ago) link
Yeah, Jane's without Dave would be as tough to wrap my head around as Van Halen without Eddie or something. On the other hand, I love Troy Van Leeuwen (who is filling in for him) so I hope he pulls it off with aplomb.
― peace, man, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 08:21 (one year ago) link
That's pretty wild. Van Leeuwen just filled in for Captain Sensible on the Damned's tour of the U.S. this year.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 14:02 (one year ago) link
Was Dave Pajo busy or something?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 14:14 (one year ago) link
Why is RS the worst website in the world
― calstars, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link
yeah you gain so much w eric but without the flashiness of dave it doesn’t work jane’s is such an oddly specific ecosystem
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 14:50 (one year ago) link
ok so now Josh Klinghoffer has replaced the still MIA Dave Navarro and they sound… really great?! like Klinghoffer (who I know nuthin about) is totally nailing a kind of shreddy looseness that sounds like JA of the olden days and the rest of the band have lifted to meet him, and even Perry sounds energised and determined to max out what’s left of his voice and -??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSi_7azF7u4
Its not in that vid but I saw a clip from the night before where JK totally bodied the Three Days solo and actually got chills -
Anyway something slightly interesting going on when I thought they were totally destined for an endgame of sad cash ins and diminishing returns
― meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Monday, 20 March 2023 08:25 (one year ago) link
Nuts Avery is back in the band. Perry ever so slightly looks like Biden in that clip. Still think the dancers are kind of embarrassing.
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Monday, 20 March 2023 09:46 (one year ago) link
Eric’s always been the heart of JA to me so this is really cool news
― calstars, Monday, 20 March 2023 11:48 (one year ago) link
Josh Klinghoffer is a pro sideman dude, he was in RHCP for a while, I'm assuming a super great player
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 20 March 2023 14:43 (one year ago) link
he filled in for Matt Cameron on Pearl Jam’s last tour - he’s really good (his own stuff under Pluralone is p decent too)
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 March 2023 14:46 (one year ago) link
Whoa reading Klinghoffer's bio is quite a thing — he's played with/been close Bob Forrest, John Frusciante, the Chili Peppers and now Jane's Addiction (among many others). He must be some kind of junkie whisperer.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 20 March 2023 15:06 (one year ago) link
He played some of the drums on Warpaint's Exquisite Corpse record, as well.
― peace, man, Monday, 20 March 2023 15:26 (one year ago) link
I think a big part of being an in-demand sideman is the ability to be chill and vibe with a wide range of challenging personalities
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 20 March 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link
Also the youngest inductee in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame I think!
― young sussy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 March 2023 16:11 (one year ago) link
Yup - at 32, beating previous record-holder Stevie Wonder (38).
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Monday, 20 March 2023 16:15 (one year ago) link
He also played on Warpaint's "Exquisite Corpse" EP
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 20 March 2023 16:19 (one year ago) link
i think he was on maron’s podcast a year or so back and talked about Rhcp etc etc
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 March 2023 16:38 (one year ago) link
yeah, Klinghoffer is great. iirc, he also played on the Exquisite Corpse EP from Warpaint.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 20 March 2023 16:55 (one year ago) link
not a fan of his drumming on that one though. maybe just the production...
― calstars, Monday, 20 March 2023 17:11 (one year ago) link
it's pretty impressive and rare to be considered a pro level guitarist and drummer
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 20 March 2023 17:22 (one year ago) link
I believe he played on Exquisite Corpse by Warpaint
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Monday, 20 March 2023 20:19 (one year ago) link
A guy is know is buddies with Josh, I'll ask if he ever played on a Warpaint EP (in case it comes up)
― chemtrails over the turkey club (morrisp), Monday, 20 March 2023 20:24 (one year ago) link
Exquisite Corpse iirc
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 20 March 2023 21:11 (one year ago) link
Warpaint fans are subculture called juggalos
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 20 March 2023 21:20 (one year ago) link
Stella added so much to that band
― calstars, Monday, 20 March 2023 21:48 (one year ago) link
this is reminding me that i read a Rolling Stone (?) profile of Josh K after he'd been dumped from the RHCP - it was quite affecting actually, a young guy trying to navigate difficult emotional territory - can't remember if it mentioned Warpaint?
― meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Monday, 20 March 2023 22:50 (one year ago) link
Very specific Venn diagram intersection here:https://i.imgur.io/dfeRX5j_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
― my brain goes aahhhh (morrisp), Thursday, 14 September 2023 23:46 (seven months ago) link
Definitely paints a unique picture.
― peace, man, Thursday, 14 September 2023 23:59 (seven months ago) link
California JNSAYS Patriots
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 15 September 2023 00:17 (seven months ago) link
Been Caught Deflating
― my brain goes aahhhh (morrisp), Friday, 15 September 2023 00:27 (seven months ago) link
Tom, Just Admit It...
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 15 September 2023 00:43 (seven months ago) link
Pig(sk)in Zen
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 15 September 2023 01:06 (seven months ago) link
Three Plays
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 15 September 2023 01:23 (seven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACS7zw9SA6k
Nerdy I know, I think recordings of Jane's from that 90/91 period that are taken from further away really suit the setting, I like the way you can hear the music bouncing around the auditorium a little on the right channel.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 9 December 2023 21:27 (four months ago) link
I see Janes are touring the UK soon but no word on whether Navarro is back or not
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 9 December 2023 21:42 (four months ago) link
I see they are playing Glasgow Barrowlands, tempted to make a trip, last saw them there *cough* 32 years ago
― MaresNest, Saturday, 9 December 2023 21:50 (four months ago) link
The new Porno For Pyros song isn’t really anything special, but is probably the best thing I’ve heard from Perry in a very long time.
― Cow_Art, Saturday, 9 December 2023 22:06 (four months ago) link
“We’re from LA and we can’t be stopped” amen
― calstars, Saturday, 9 December 2023 22:15 (four months ago) link
encouraging signs of Navarro being back in the fold
would be glad to see a legacy-burnishing final act from the OG lineup
new music could go either way but would always be interested to hear something with Avery and Navarro on board
― meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Monday, 5 February 2024 03:19 (two months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGzFMUX-w7U
― Maresn3st, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 22:01 (one month ago) link
man Mike Watt. God bless that man
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 22:28 (one month ago) link