Caribou / Manitoba (Dan Snaith) - Classic or Dud?

any good live? wondering whether i should go see him play tmr night.

Amazing live ... much better than on record. A lot noisier, two drummers = live madness, etc.

Only "Milk of Human Kindness" is a classic, his other albums are too patchy. "Andorra" was too maximalist for me, but "Milk of Human Kindness" had more of a focus on rhythm, with some very Can-esque moments to balance things out rather than bells-ringing psych-pop from start to finish.

See, I'm of the mind that Up in Flames is his only front-to-back classic. Still one of my favorite records of the '00s. Milk of Human Kindness never really clicked with me, though I've given it plenty of time to sit. Andorra is fantastic as well, though slightly less so than Flames.

classsssic
theres plenty to love on andorra and human kindness but yea up in flames is best. i always forget what start breaking my heart sounds like.

I find UIF a little too ADHD for me these days; I like the space, calmness and lower-keyness of MOHK and Andorra more, I think.

Hearing Dirtroad for the first time though, fucking hell...

Start breaking my heart is a straight up classic. Sparse, fast and clever.

UIF is fairly patchy imho. MOHK a bit mawkish, as in it's not a clear progression on from UIF. Andorra is just fantastic. So dense and well thought out.

Roz, did you see him live? I've seen him a few times and he's great fun. Got to talk to him a bit after the last gig. Very friendly guy!

I still need to hear Andorra. I'm in the "Up In Flames = flawless" camp (no better album for lazy summer driving), but Milk of Human Kindness never really clicked with me.

I'm not mad about the 2007 Tour CD. I probably just need to give it another couple of goes.

I'd love to get my hands on real copies of both the tour CDs. Does anyone know where they can be bought online?

Posteverything.com? That's where I've found his stuff before.

(In return could you tell me where you found your drop leaf table that I saw in the record collection thread? I am having a doozy of a time tracking one down!)

I'll have a look at Posteverything.

Table = http://www.johnlewis.com/Home+and+Garden/Dining+Room/Dining+Room+Furniture/Tables/173/230176366/Product.aspx

Tesco and Argos online both do similar ones that are much cheaper (and feel it).

The 2005 one is deleted, and they don't have the 2007 one. Hmph. Have to set-up an ebay search.

You can have my signed one (including his usual sketch of manic Dan) for a million dollars. Bargain.

Cheers for tip about table. No John Lewis here but I'm sure they deliver.

They do indeed. The amount of John Lewis stuff in our house is unbelievable. (My girlfriend worked for their outsourced online ordering system for ages, so when we bought a house she was all like "we NEED this table and these placemats, I've sold loads of them".)

Happy days! I unfortunately seem to have missed the sales. Also broke from builders. Still, it'll all be a distant memory in a year or two. Hopefully. Must get a Bob :)

Exciting new album news! Pfork's take:

Monday, January 25
Caribou Reveals New Album
Hear the first track now Caribou Reveals New Album

2007's Andorra, the last album from Dan Snaith's ever-mutating psych-pop project Caribou, appeared on our year-end list and won Canada's Polaris Music Prize, so hopes are high for the follow-up. That follow-up will arrive April 20, when Merge (in North America) and City Slang (in the UK and Europe) releases his new album, Swim. The 4/20 release date feels oddly appropriate.

Snaith recorded the album in Wales and in Junior Boy Jeremy Greenspan's Hamilton, Ontario studio. Guest stars include a quartet of Toronto free-jazz horn players and Born Ruffians' Luke Lalonde, who sings closer "Jamelia". At this site, anyone who gives an email address can download opener "Odessa".

In a statement, Snaith described the album's sound thusly: "I got excited by the idea of making dance music that's liquid in the way it flows back and forth, the sounds slosh around in pitch, timbre, pan... Dance music that sounds like it's made out of water, rather than made out of metallic stuff like most dance music does."

Swim:

01 Odessa
02 Sun
03 Kaili
04 Found Out
05 Bowls
06 Leave House
07 Hannibal
08 Lalibela
09 Jamelia

EXCITING

Between this, Four Tet and Spoon, I'm really looking forward to the first 3-4 months of 2010.

Stop being me.

Liking Odessa.

glad for this thread, 'cause i always get caribou/manitoba and four tet confused. two new threads for two new discs will help keep it all straight in my head.

http://cdn.pitchfork.com/media/Caribou_Swim_cover_art_hi-res.jpg

one of my fav dudes in the game 2day

anyone know of any Four Tet and Manitoba/Caribou collaborations? i have one remix they did together of the Notwist song "This Room" that is ridiculously good.

There used to be a Manitoba remix of Hilarious Movie Of The 90s floating around.

xp the Four Tet remix of Melody Day is beautiful

Odessa sounds quite good. The late April release date has me pretty excited too. I'm could definitely go for some early springtime cruisin' to the new Caribou!

vocal sounds very erlend oye

Four Tet mix of Melody Day seconded, it really is something special:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKvZtD8V6Kc

So I went back and listened to Milk of Human Kindness after dismissing it long ago for not sounding more like Andorra. Everyone up thread who were championed this were totally right. I don't know that I'd say I'd prefer it over Andorra, or even Up in Flames (easily two of my favorite albums of the past 10 to 15 years) but this ranks right up there.

Dan Snaith is dream a boat I tell ya.

Just realised that Swim comes out just before I get married. Nice.

cover connection

http://img12.nnm.ru/2/9/7/e/a/297eaef79cca17feca1bae2e337c01b3_full.jpg

Odessa sounds quite good. The late April release date has me pretty excited too. I'm could definitely go for some early springtime cruisin' to the new Caribou!

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is that song streaming somewhere online?

Never mind streaming; download the damn thing here - http://www.caribou.fm/swim_download/

sweet thx nick

odessa is funky and kind of gangster

Dan did this grrrrreat mix for his Nightmare Before Christmas day, well worth checking out: http://www.atpfestival.com/assets/cariboumix/index.html

Jamie will you be at NBC?

yes indeed, might even be djing if there's a free slot somewhere

Bonza, see you there.

Has anyone been peeping Dan's dance edits on the Resista label under his "Daphni" alias? They've been pretty killer so far and i like that his love for African music translates into some very dancefloor friendly edits of songs by Balla et ses Balladins and the like. and then the track he just dropped on Jiaolong, which uses an Analog Africa track for some heavier techno business, is easily one of my favorites for the year.

This Daphni remix of an old Malian disco track is all percussivey and great:
http://soundcloud.com/sofrito/niama-makalou-et-african-soul

Need to check that out. I see that they are doing some dates as Radiohead's opening act, and previously remixed Radiohead.

Didn't really know this guy until Swim, but have since been checking out the back catalog which I like even more.

Up In Flames is still one my favourite things ever

^^ cosign! love this one forever.

I gather Dan was recording Caribou material early his year. I love this dude.

I'm not on this thread making Chapterhouse jokes? How? Or was that another thread?

Heard "Sun (sunsunsunsunsunsunsunsun)" in the pub the other night, which was a bit of a headphuck. Someone in my local boozer is determined to make sure I spend more time in there.

Hey-can anyone recommend records similar to Our Love for me? I tried going backwards to Swim, and didn't really love it.
I looked at the similar albums page on allmusic, and I don't know any of them, other than the Jamie XX which I found kind of boring:
http://www.allmusic.com/album/our-love-mw0002686820/similar

try four tet?
or the four tet/burial singles?

Yeah not a lot of his prior stuff sounds like Our Love. Did you not like "Sun" though?

These are my fave tracks if that helps: Can't Do Without You, Silver, Dive, Second Chance, Julia Brightly, Kaili, Found Out, and maybe Hannibal. Sun doesn't do a ton for me.

I know this description isn't great, but there's almost a shoe-gazey sound on Second Chance.

All of these have been added to spotify and I'm still checking for more:

Just Ask the Lonely – Omar S
Fondé – Pape N'Diaye Guewel
Thought Seeds – Paris Smith Quintet, Carol Sawall
KHLHI – Percussions
Vibes from the Tribe – Phil Ranelin
Proud Sorrow – Pride
The Truth – Pride
Love Me for Real - DJ Red Greg Edit – Rim & Kasa, DJ Red Greg
I'm Strong - House Mix – Robert Owens
Matthew and Toby - Four Tet Remix – Rocketnumbernine, Four Tet
The Highest Pleasure – Rudolph Johnson
Changin' – Ms. (Sharon) Ridley
Ain't No Need - DJ Nick The Record Part 1 & 2 Re-United Re-Edit – Skye, Nick The Record
Live Goes On – Soundstream
Disco Illusion – Stephen Encinas
Lypso Illusion – Stephen Encinas
The Meaning of Love – Steve Kuhn
Short Circuit – Steve Poindexter
Sunrise of the Planetary Dream Collector – Terry Riley, Ragazze Quartet
To Claudia on Thursday – The Millennium
Prelude – The Millennium
I Get Wrecked - Radio Edit – Tim Dog, KRS-One
Psyche I & Share Your Water – These Trails
Make the Beat Pound – Todd Terry, Sound Design
Searchin' - Remastered – Sound Design, Todd Terry
Hangin' Out In Space – Tony Wilson
Dig My Girl – Wolfgang Dauner Quintet
How Can I Be Down – The Yellow Balloon
Firecracker – YELLOW MAGIC ORCHESTRA
Voodoo Tronics – James Harpham
Bang the Box - Slam Remix – Jack Master, Richie Hawtin
Telilite – Group Inerane
Nadan al Kazawnin – Group Inerane
Kar Labyad Doueh – Group Doueh
Wazan Samat – Group Doueh
Tinariwen – Group Anmataff
Love Is a Hurtin' Thing - 12" Version – Gloria Ann Taylor
Nen Lambo – Bill Loko
Relevee - Carl Craig Remix/Slam Rework – Delia Gonzalez, Gavin Russom
Wings of Fire – Dennis Coffey
You Don't Know – Drexciya
Let's Get It Together – Shadow
No Way Back – The Dells
Mama Soukous – Volta Jazz
Gwindingew Rine Shumba – Thomas Mapfumo
Lanquidity – Sun Ra & His Arkestra
Leh Jani – Omar Souleyman
Dem Young Sconies – Moodymann
Daa Nyinaa – Ata Kak
Excuse Me Baby – Dizzy K.
Tomorrow Never Knows - Remastered 2009 – The Beatles
Tell Her She's Lovely – El Chicano
Can't Turn Back (TP's Original Mix) – Younger Than Park
Computer Madness – Steve Poindexter
The Ship Was Sailing - Original Mix – Vito Ricci

Formatting got fucked but I'll update the list with the proper missing songs when I finish.

just kind of responding to my own post here, but those first Ulrich Schnauss records fit on a Caribou playlist nicely.

Seems promising. More breakbeaty than I would have expected from him at this stage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX30jRKcmbw

This one too. On first listen I felt a bit "I see what you did there" about the way it transitions from a very generic-sounding pop song to the wilder sections, but it's growing on me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uazlt4CCr7o

I really like both. The transitions on the second one also felt jarring for me at first but I liked it better on second listen.

Didn’t realize singles were out, and just listened through—really really stoked on this release. Already got my ticket for the live show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3hDvOL7E7Y

really hoping he does a surprise show in SF during coachella

This one leaked a couple of days ago at 320kbps and I couldn't resist listening to it. Loved it on first listen. Highlight for me besides the singles is "like I loved you".

I think the only thing I'm not crazy about is the album cover.

Holy shit this is fucking lush.

Why are more people not getting excited about this?

So far I'm admiring it but not feeling it (unlike his last few under the Caribou moniker, which were all immediate stunners). The vocal sampling/looping feels a little heavy-handed.

Absolutely blown away by this one - I don't know if anything can ever top Swim for me, but when the dust settles this is a likely my #2 Snaith joint.

Our Love was the first one I felt less than in love with, and this has jumped him straight back in there.

Thought it was great on first listen in the house. Was a little cooler on it when I listened again in the car, earlier.

I loved Our Love... that grabbed me immediately though there were some arrangement decisions in some of the songs that I felt held them back.

This one I need to give another proper listen to, but first pass it was gorgeous, if not less "catchy" than Our Love and Swim.

I've only heard New Jade so far but I would pay for a version with all the vocals removed.

Getting strong DJ Koze vibes from 'Home'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7mZXWO9Bu4

best leap day essential mix ever?

https://sickmouthy.wordpress.com/2020/03/01/caribou-suddenly/

Liking this a lot more than expected on first listen

Oh man, I love this. Like the latest James Blake, I feel like I like it a lot more than I should, it doesn't really break new ground, but the mood is incredible.

He's never been a better producer than he is on this every album, every single element sounds so good... except his voice which I don't think I'm ever going to get past, it just anchors everything in the emotionally lukewarm zone for me.

Is there a general consensus that Swim is his best one? It's clearly Andorra and then The Milk... and then a big gap imo

up in flames is still my fav

i haven't been able to get into the new one, it's too song-y. seeing him live in a couple of weeks and maybe that'll get me into it

Scik Mouthy: so sad you’re going through that heartbreaking experience with your kid. Sincerely send you some love.

I love how this album sounds, makes up for the disappointment of the Grimes one.

more into this than the last one

i always thought the consensus was that andorra and swim were the best in whichever order

"magpie" is lovely, one of his best sounding tracks

Yeah, really into the minimalism and sound palette of this album. The two singles are probably my least favorite tracks tbh.

yeah "never come back" feels like an Obligatory Single here and not a standout

Thanks Moka - we're generally all pretty good at the moment but we've been through the mill for sure.

I have reservations about his voice, although it's normally not obstrusive enough to have any detrimental effect, and I wasn't expecting to be so into this from radio play of the singles (Never Come Back sounded exactly like a continuation of Our Love, and Home seemed too reliant on the sample, but they both work much better in context of the album for me) and early reports of how much he's singing on it, but it's actually working for me way more than his singing has before.

There are a few points where I kind of want it to go wild and tip into that collapse/chaos he's done before - the end of Magpie, for instance, teases me that it's going to explode and then it pulls back and finishes - and initially I was a bit gutted that he hadn't pushed it right out there, but I'm also impressed by the restraint.

Great seeing you write about music again, Scik Mouthy. I remember following your blog years ago and getting some amazing recommendations. And I'm glad the family's doing better!

“Our Love” didn't grab me much either, maybe apart from the singles, and Daphni was never really my thing, but I'm looking forward to picking up a copy of the new one today after work. I actually like his singing on his older tracks so the focus on vocals shouldn't be a problem.

this album is beautiful

i enjoy it a lot, as i do with all manitoba/caribou lps

our love lost me, used to love his mid aughts stuff. worth a revisit?

40000%

like i skip a couple of tracks on our love, but there are some stunners on it

this new one is more dance-oriented. "home" feels like something he coulda done mid-aughts, tho.

I think this one is good but nothing on it sizzles for me