OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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It's a screengrab from the pdf off the website! They didn't have a normal text version...

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

can you link to the website? photobucket seems to be banned here.

acrobat, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.exepose.ex.ac.uk

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

goes from strength to strength -- feeder mention is possibly the high point.

That one guy that quit, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

System of a Down's top 20 single was six and a half years ago, fact fans.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Recent developments in music have given Architechs a top 5 single"

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

surely this can't be THE jonny garrett?

http://www.myspace.com/chasingfaces

StanM, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

(yeah, they have a myspace already, the sellouts)

StanM, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

I suspect it must be, StanM.

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

I assume, from their name that they like Snow Patrol and The Small Faces.

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

um, holding up articles by students as examples of 'bad music writing'? talk about shooting fish in a barrel. Matt DC OTM.

blueski, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

Following in the footsteps of West Country acts like Muse and Thirteen Senses by already winning over interest from various major and independent record labels, things are definitely looking good for the boys. Having recently been asked to support New Zealand favourites The Checks who have just finished touring with the likes of JET and Oasis.

"I know someone who knows someone who knows the guy from Young Heart Attack quite well"

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

blueski and Matt DC offtm, this is the new web2.0 media era, we're all critics now, user provided content is the new professionally written content.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

Even in the realm of student media this is BAAAAAAAAD though, Steve - I flick through Exepose every week and this is BY FAR the worst thing I've ever seen in it; hence not starting a thread every week.

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

Haha I used to write for that paper. I wonder how long before he Googles his own name and finds it.

Matt DC, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

It would be so wonderful if he googled this thread and responded. What an utterly thrilling discussion and exchange of views that could lead to.

blueski, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hey, with any luck he might hop over to ILE and start posting about his sex life or something.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

(my question: is the article motivated by his own band possibly signing to a major soon?)

StanM, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

Maybe I should unleash the views of Chris Erasmus at you all?

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

Haha, yeah, I'd imagine so, StanM.

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hello Jonny's mom! No, he hasn't posted about his sex life yet. Try again later. Bye, ILX.

StanM, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

blueski and Matt DC offtm, this is the new web2.0 media era, we're all critics now, user provided content is the new professionally written content.

-- Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:36 (11 minutes ago) Link

Dom is entirely correct here. I mean, the chuckle factor is diminished by him being a student, but the democratization of criticism basically leaves us with this sort of landscape (coughcoughP.E.W.cough).

sanskrit, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

also why do nearly all student newspaper writers write in what feels like the same voice? there's certain syntax and word choices that only student newspapers ever seem to have.

acrobat, Monday, 18 June 2007 12:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

Nobody knows how to sub-edit when they're 21, that's why.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

^^not unrelated to why writers in the say, New York Times tend to sound the same. for that matter, ever read Blender? Despite the bylines it seems to be written by one many-armed poprockbot.

m coleman, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

that really is quite incredible.

jed_, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

New York Times doesn't have sub-editors? That's crazy!

acrobat, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hey Jonny, your band fucking suck.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

Jonny Garrett of Exeter University, that is.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

I think you mean <a href="OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?;>Jonny Garrett</a> of Exeter University.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

BOO HTML

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

Kudos on sticking it to Westlife, tho, Jonny Garrett of Exeter University. Those bastards have had it their own way for too long.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

Does Westlife even exist anymore?

Tuomas, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

highlights:

"...bands like westlife who can, quite frankly, go screw themselves with a rusty spoon and get tetanus"

"had nirvana not signed to sub pop... we would probably never have heard one of the most influential artists of our time and dave grohl may have never founded the foo fighters."

the pathos!

jed_, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

but the democratization of criticism basically leaves us with this sort of landscape (coughcoughP.E.W.cough).

democratization of criticism = people slagging this shit off just because they can rather than for any constructive cause. it's just easy target practice, who gives a shit? no-one/nothing is ever going to stop under-grads inheriting these absurd ideas about 'how things should be' in the music industry. surely we've all read this same article many times in the past.

i'm just more relieved than ever my music writing from college days was too soon for blog-era internet heh.

blueski, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

"had nirvana not signed to sub pop... we would probably never have heard of..." Sub Pop.

NickB, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

Was there ever a thread for people to post their own abysmal juvenile music writings from uni days?

Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

Not that I'd post on it, my capsule reviews of Kinesis singles were all fuckin bang-on.

Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

perhaps one day i will post my 8/10 track by track review of 'Be Here Now' from the time.

blueski, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah, you real writers are all jealous that you've lost the ability to write like that, aren't you?

StanM, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

I wrote a two-part article in my uni paper called "Rhythm & Sound", which basically stated that all rock music that's based on melody or lyrics is boring crap, and that beats and sound are the essential components of good music - hence electronic dance music (and fusion jazz) is the best music there is. I got some angry comments from the indie kids.

Tuomas, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

Kudos on sticking it to Westlife, tho, Jonny Garrett of Exeter University.

and kudos to you lot for bravely and relentlessly going after such a signifivcant target as jonny garrett. sure showed him!

ts being one of many thick students w/ bad music taste who can't write, vs being someone who actually gives a shit about what said student writes in some minor student rag

or, matt'n'steve otm, u r all losers

lex pretend, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

but the democratization of criticism basically leaves us with this sort of landscape (coughcoughP.E.W.cough).

student newspapers have nothing to do with the "democratization of criticism"

Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

I can't copy and paste from the Exeter Expose, but if you Google you can find a review where our Jonny talks about "Indy music".

Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

also why do nearly all student newspaper writers write in what feels like the same voice? there's certain syntax and word choices that only student newspapers ever seem to have.

paul please, please tell me you don't actually care about the answer to this

lex pretend, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

paul please, please tell me you don't actually care about the answer to this

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Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

haaaaaa

Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

come on everyone, geir gives himself away in the final parentheses.

Frogman Henry, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

ha. not sure i care as such! a while back i had a job gathering information on universities, i found it kind of funny that you can go anywhere in the country and every student newspapers seems to be written by the same person. it sort of interests me to know who, if anyone, they are imitating. if my current job was more interesting this issue would, i think, seem rather less pressing.

xp

acrobat, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

i love the line about nirvana: nirvana's main block to future gold albums was kurt cobain's inability to accept the "popular culture lifestyle he was made to live", nothing about JUNKIE SUICIDE.

Frogman Henry, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

it's those damn 23 year olds!

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 4 January 2018 20:31 (one month ago) Permalink

to be fair sometimes they're as old as 29

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Thursday, 4 January 2018 20:31 (one month ago) Permalink

don't trust anyone under 30

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 4 January 2018 20:33 (one month ago) Permalink

there's another "ooh spooky algorithms" piece by Rhett Miller in the outline (admittedly it touches on other subjects)

Simon H., Thursday, 4 January 2018 20:37 (one month ago) Permalink

Didn't see it up there, does it have a bafflingly incongruous title or something?

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Friday, 5 January 2018 15:18 (one month ago) Permalink

can't link rn but it's actually in The Baffler, sorry

Simon H., Friday, 5 January 2018 15:21 (one month ago) Permalink

i think it’s in the baffler

maura, Friday, 5 January 2018 15:21 (one month ago) Permalink

can't link rn but it's actually in The Baffler, sorry

― Simon H., Friday, January 5, 2018 8:21 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

goddamn you for making me try to find a story on the outline

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 5 January 2018 15:23 (one month ago) Permalink

lmao sorry

Simon H., Friday, 5 January 2018 15:24 (one month ago) Permalink

anyway it's not really bad enough for this thread I don't think but man if I were a white rock musician in my 40s I'd think long and hard before writing dismissively about "SoundCloud rappers"

Simon H., Friday, 5 January 2018 15:26 (one month ago) Permalink

I like a lot about The Outline, but they do make it hard to find what you want.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Friday, 5 January 2018 15:27 (one month ago) Permalink

the outline had a decent piece on this a few months back, albeit not about music: https://theoutline.com/post/2362/the-algorithm-is-innocent

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Friday, 5 January 2018 15:30 (one month ago) Permalink

anyway it's not really bad enough for this thread I don't think but man if I were a white rock musician in my 40s I'd think long and hard before writing dismissively about "SoundCloud rappers"

No one in their 40s should be thinking about SoundCloud rappers at all. Accept that not everything is for you, and that that's a good thing, and move on.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 5 January 2018 16:58 (one month ago) Permalink

wait up there hoss - some of that soundcloud stuff you're dismissing is just fine for the over 40 crowd, maybe not for you tho'

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 5 January 2018 17:55 (one month ago) Permalink

As a 40 year old, I'm cool with soundcloud rappers. I also recognize that what I might have to say about them isn't notable or relevant to them (or anyone much, really)

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Friday, 5 January 2018 17:58 (one month ago) Permalink

A thread where white people old enough to remember the Challenger Explosion debate whether "I took a white bitch to starbucks/That lil' bitch got her throat fucked" is for them

mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 5 January 2018 18:02 (one month ago) Permalink

That's not really what's happening but whatever gramps

queens of the stonage (ultros ultros-ghali), Friday, 5 January 2018 18:15 (one month ago) Permalink

Ageism goes both ways.

pomenitul, Friday, 5 January 2018 18:15 (one month ago) Permalink

whiney if u aint' down with the kids how can u be down with the clown?

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 5 January 2018 18:22 (one month ago) Permalink

also NB: your immediate access to xxx bars is very suspect, i daresay you may be a greyhair turncoat

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 5 January 2018 18:23 (one month ago) Permalink

does anyone under the age of 40 use that Buscemi meme anymore, is my question

mh, Friday, 5 January 2018 22:11 (one month ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

this piece is seriously called “cut the c-rap”

https://www.city-journal.org/html/cut-c-rap-15692.html

when does the pmrc reform

maura, Thursday, 1 February 2018 05:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

City Journal is the nation’s premier urban-policy magazine, “the Bible of the new urbanism,” as London’s Daily Telegraph puts it. During the Giuliani Administration, the magazine served as an idea factory as the then-mayor revivified New York City, quickly becoming, in the words of the New York Post, “the place where Rudy gets his ideas.”

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 1 February 2018 05:39 (three weeks ago) Permalink

lord help us

maura, Thursday, 1 February 2018 05:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

The guy looks like an Isaac Asimov cosplayer

http://myronmagnet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/MyronMagnetAlexanderHamilton-x400.jpg

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 February 2018 05:42 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Peggy Noonan is on their publication committee.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 1 February 2018 05:44 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i love that he quoted the skit from reasonable doubt as jay-z lyrics

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Thursday, 1 February 2018 06:48 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Fuckin' Magnets, how do they work?

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Thursday, 1 February 2018 11:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

not so much music writing as racist concern trolling tbf

bizarrer Gandhara (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 February 2018 11:50 (three weeks ago) Permalink

lmao "myron magnet"

from the creative team that brought you "geir hongro"

very stabbable gaius (wins), Thursday, 1 February 2018 12:07 (three weeks ago) Permalink

the corruption and oppression of their kleptocratic governments that keep the proles in poverty, ignorance, and fear; their religions that teach violence or passive resignation; and their cultures that oppress women, devalue learning, promote superstition

but enough about america,

faust apes (NickB), Thursday, 1 February 2018 12:10 (three weeks ago) Permalink

👌

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 1 February 2018 12:11 (three weeks ago) Permalink

that photo is perfect not-alt right "I am upholding civilization against the barbarian darkness" fantasy

bizarrer Gandhara (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 February 2018 12:12 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Looks like Chris Cantwell's attorney

how's life, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:41 (three weeks ago) Permalink

to whom do i write a sharply worded letter about rescinding mr magnet's national humanities medal

j., Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:45 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Too late, it'll be pretty firmly stuck to him

scrüt (wins), Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:46 (three weeks ago) Permalink

shoulda checked the couch before he sat down

j., Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:48 (three weeks ago) Permalink

the only magnet we acknowledge here is penelope magnet

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

some of these ageing aesthetes are better off just staying safely inside their posh wanking pits, and refraining from saying anything until the death. Then we all win.

the 'phet offensive (calzino), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:24 (three weeks ago) Permalink

posh wanking pits

wait are these bad now?

mark s, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:25 (three weeks ago) Permalink

nowt wrong with 'em!

the 'phet offensive (calzino), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:26 (three weeks ago) Permalink

But people like Sir Roger Scrotum should stay inside them.

the 'phet offensive (calzino), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:51 (three weeks ago) Permalink

someone on twitter said he looks like Dr Snuggles & now I cant unsee it

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-7_WRSEwuk0/hqdefault.jpg

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 February 2018 19:49 (three weeks ago) Permalink

t/s friend of the animal world vs white supremacist who uses big words

bizarrer Gandhara (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 February 2018 20:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink


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