MF Doom?

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I take it you mean the AMG review ("MF Doom's two vocal features make up for much of the mentalist madness." Well okay). Dumb, yeah, but it's not the first time they've sputtered inanities at an MF Doom record.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 01:33 (twenty years ago) link

Well, I've seen it in multiple places.

To use pitchfork as an example (sorry)-

...The King Geedorah project, unlike Doom's recent outing as Viktor Vaughn, finds MF almost exclusively behind the boards, comfortable with rocking the SP1200 and letting others turn out the mic. Only two tracks feature Doom rhyming, but at least one of them is an album highlight...

Now yeah i know PITCHFORK BLAH BLAH CLOWNS BLAH BLAH, but the kid loves the record, makes reference to past doom projects, and yet still he doesn't recognize MF DOOM'S GODDAMN VOICE.

joshd, Tuesday, 2 December 2003 01:49 (twenty years ago) link

you're lucky patrin!!

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 01:56 (twenty years ago) link

OMG you better write him a nasty letter then! I can't believe someone/anyone would be confused by an artist who only uses half-a-dozen or so pseudonyms and personas. Sheesh, some people just ain't got no sense.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 01:58 (twenty years ago) link

Wwhile i applaud the spirit of your post, i just want to say that
the man has a very distinctive voice. If you are familiar with his past work (as the above two reviews claim) it should be apparent even after only one listen that he is on more than just the songs that are credited as "featuring mf doom."

there's a significant difference between saying an album has 2 songs with mf doom verses when its closer to 6 or 7.

its just shoddy writing, because his verses on "no snakes alive" and "the fine print" are fab!

joshd, Tuesday, 2 December 2003 02:16 (twenty years ago) link

Classic. Operation Doomsday was the shit. Viktor Vaughn IS THE SHIT.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 04:30 (twenty years ago) link

I can't believe someone/anyone would be confused by an artist who only uses half-a-dozen or so pseudonyms and personas.

Wouldn't you recognize, say, Willie Nelson singing if he went by the name Harvis Finkelwert?

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 04:34 (twenty years ago) link

So wait wait regardless of what persona he's using, dude ALWAYS raps about exactly the SAME things with exactly the SAME flow?!?! Why the bunch of pseudonyms then?!?! Why not stick with just one?

Not to mention the fact that it's plausible that someone might use or collaborate with rappers/singers/etc. who sound rather a lot like they do. Why wouldn't you assume that Harvis Finkelwert isn't just a big Willie Nelson fan who sounds quite a lot like Willie?!?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 04:49 (twenty years ago) link

I guess you may...but if you knew Willie was prone to use pseudonyms, and there's all these people with unfamiliar names singing an awfully lot like him on his records, and you are paid to research and review his music, shouldn't it get you at least wondering?

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 04:58 (twenty years ago) link

No.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 05:02 (twenty years ago) link

*slap*

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 05:12 (twenty years ago) link

I spend my time thinking about useful stuff.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 05:27 (twenty years ago) link

I like cake.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 05:34 (twenty years ago) link

Purple is pretty.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 05:35 (twenty years ago) link

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hey josh, I thought you were talking about me and I was all ready to be like "YOU BITCH, I have Operation Doomsday on vinyl and a homemade shirt that says 'I'm at where your sister went'!". And then I realized that I reviewed Viktor Vaughn and not King Geedorah. To be technical, MF Doom raps on, what, five songs on KG? Fazers and The Fine Print are far and away the standouts and Dumile's verse on 'Anti-Matter' is the toughest thing to come out this year, I think. "Doom with the hog's leg, straight up, New Yorkin'"

Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 07:45 (twenty years ago) link

Top ten Doom tracks:

1) MF Doom "Operation: Greenbacks"
2) MF Doom "Dead Bent" (12" version)
3) Viktor Vaughn "Saliva"
4) MF Doom "Red And Gold"
5) MF Doom "Doomsday"
6) Viktor Vaughn "Lickupon"
7) King Geedorah "The Fine Print"
8) MF Doom ft. Kurious "?"
9) MF Doom "Hey!"
10) King Geedorah "Fazers"

Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 07:49 (twenty years ago) link

My fav. Doom track is "Rhymes Like Dimes" just because it flows so well with unexpected lyrics. It seems like everything is spilling out of his mouth and he can't control what he raps. (See the Young Gunz "Can't Stop, Won't Stop" for example.)

But the new "Vaudeville Villain" album is his best overall. It has one of the best great:crap lyric ratios in recent memory. Tons of quotables. Best hip-hop album of 2003.

Adam Harrison-Friday, Tuesday, 2 December 2003 16:26 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
Rhymes like dimes is a freestyle - maybe best doom track ever
operation doomsday is the best doom album, though I have spent many evenings stoned out of my gourd or tripping and listening to gedorah and v vaughn. his word play is retardulous

Fratz, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:17 (twenty years ago) link

can't wait for MM FOOD!!!!!!!

what's this about?


the Madvillian comes out today. i'll be at rasputins for lunch

JaXoN (JasonD), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:42 (twenty years ago) link

I can't seem to find anyone else who I like remotely as much as Doom -- the V Vaughn album keeps sounding better and better. Who else (if anyone) is doing similar stuff?

dlp9001, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:48 (twenty years ago) link

Count Bass D is a very, very, very similar artist. He actually has a song where Doom raps over a beat of his (called "Quite Buttery"). Count Bass D has a couple albums, the best one is Dwight Spitz, he's pretty damn dope.

"Smoke Ernie El's, drink Gin, last name, Baylor"

Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:28 (twenty years ago) link

Get the songs "Dro Grown" and "Aural Sects"

Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:29 (twenty years ago) link

four years pass...

there's a new track making the rounds. i like it!

fwiw (rockapads), Saturday, 17 January 2009 02:54 (fifteen years ago) link

quasimotos 2nd album might appeal if you like doom. maybe edans primitive plus, too.

uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 17 January 2009 09:16 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

new album is looking good from what ive heard so far... i hope hes producing the bulk of it.

p-noid (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 2 February 2009 11:47 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

is there enough interest for an ANTICIPATING BORN LIKE THIS thread?

that's that is killing me. kinda like lynguistics by cunninlynguistics. the bass and guitar playing on it's so nuanced and sweet, almost african kinda.

deveraux billings (schlump), Monday, 9 March 2009 04:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm playing the shit out of the Born Like This sampler. This is easily my most anticipated release for the near future

BusDriverStu (Bus Driver Stu), Monday, 9 March 2009 11:15 (fifteen years ago) link

i love the new album so far. sounds a bit diff to how he used to, not quite as playful, but still dope.

Yellow Carded (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 9 March 2009 12:00 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah that's that is great. I like the lack of autotune in the terrible singing bit at the end too

wilter, Monday, 9 March 2009 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link

i ADORE this album. it should be on everyones best of 2009 list.

Yellow Carded (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link

when does this come out??

straight up, you're payin' jacks just to hear me phase (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

RADIATED HUMANS EATING THE FLESH OF RADIATED HUMANS

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah that's that is great. I like the lack of autotune in the terrible singing bit at the end too

that singing bit's like my favourite. not terrible at all.

is ghost only on one track on the lp? something i read a while ago made it sound like he'd thrown in some of the sessions they did, kinda abandoning the plans for a full record

deveraux billings (schlump), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link

DOPE

carne asada, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link

how are you guys hearing this?

The Lost Boys Buff Guy Playing Sax (rockapads), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link

nm

The Lost Boys Buff Guy Playing Sax (rockapads), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link

has he used the 'rectal hysterectomy' line before?

The Lost Boys Buff Guy Playing Sax (rockapads), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link

that singing bit's like my favourite. not terrible at all.

ya I mean his singing voice is terrible but it fits nicely with the vibe of the whole thing.

wilter, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 01:20 (fifteen years ago) link

heh took a while to click that they're Doom samples in That's That.

wilter, Friday, 13 March 2009 07:50 (fifteen years ago) link

the thom yorke remix sounds better on paper.

Yellow Carded (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 13 March 2009 10:43 (fifteen years ago) link

it sounds like a thom yorke remix. the four tet mixes put the vocals on a different bed of sounds but it still sounded good, this sounds a little jarring

deveraux billings (schlump), Friday, 13 March 2009 12:36 (fifteen years ago) link

it needs to be more minimal i think.

Yellow Carded (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 13 March 2009 12:43 (fifteen years ago) link

lool @ "Batty Boyz"

Jordi La Sarge (The Reverend), Monday, 16 March 2009 08:56 (fifteen years ago) link

yeh wtf!??!??

zappi, Monday, 16 March 2009 09:04 (fifteen years ago) link

the raekwon joint is mad srs

Jordi La Sarge (The Reverend), Monday, 16 March 2009 09:20 (fifteen years ago) link

how many tracks from the ghost/doom album made it out last year or whenever that was still being mooted? cos i think the one on here is from those 'sessions'.

Yellow Carded (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 16 March 2009 10:48 (fifteen years ago) link

"Absolutely" and the Raekwon track kill.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 March 2009 12:18 (fifteen years ago) link

This album scratches both my love of music and my super comicbook nerdom needs.

Mordy, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 02:49 (fifteen years ago) link

apparently the ghost/doom project is still in the works. :)

Yellow Carded (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 09:15 (fifteen years ago) link

anyone know who empress sharhh is? i wondered if it was apani b but am not sure.

corps of discovery (schlump), Sunday, 29 March 2009 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/arts/music/mf-doom-influences.html

candyman, Friday, 15 January 2021 08:08 (three years ago) link

oops, just saw that was already posted.

candyman, Friday, 15 January 2021 08:08 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

https://daily.bandcamp.com/lists/a-guide-to-the-mf-doom-discography

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 February 2021 19:41 (three years ago) link

If there's one catalog album I've played by any artist since Jan. 1, it's Operation: Doomsday. Every day in my car.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 February 2021 19:44 (three years ago) link

good tunes for riding out for sure!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 19 February 2021 19:56 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Poll's going to get started when the Todd Rundgren results rollout is done. It's everything but bootlegs. KMD, MF DOOM and all other aliases, all productions, features, herbs, blends, go nuts and I'll sort it out. Will link the poll here when it's up!

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 22:49 (three years ago) link

man I can't remember most of his titles. One of those artists whose albums I just play and the titles don't matter a damn.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 22:52 (three years ago) link

There won't be an exhaustive list of what's eligible. Good resources I've found for stray tracks are Genius and RYM.

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 22:54 (three years ago) link

i hear ya. thought i'd give a heads up!

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 22:55 (three years ago) link

I will definitely vote in this

bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 23:04 (three years ago) link

I will too. thank you!

gman59, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 23:12 (three years ago) link

love crazy doom fans. sold my old vinyl for more than i ever thought possible.

candyman, Thursday, 25 March 2021 07:04 (three years ago) link

bump. bout a week left.

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 5 April 2021 18:23 (three years ago) link

Anyone else who was planning to vote?

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 12 April 2021 11:36 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

New album with Czarface, apparently was a delayed release cuz Covid. On first listen I like it more than the last one, much better production. Whole thing is like 25 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQlNCG5GQ2w

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 7 May 2021 13:22 (two years ago) link

seems suspiciously like it could be scraps and leftovers from their previous sessions, but maybe im wrong and its totally legit. does seem odd to have held off on it for so long.

candyman, Friday, 7 May 2021 13:29 (two years ago) link

does it matter?

no, but its fun to speculate.

candyman, Friday, 7 May 2021 13:51 (two years ago) link

there has to be so many half finished DOOM projects with ppl out there

wonder what will happen to the one with flying lotus he was working on.

candyman, Friday, 7 May 2021 14:00 (two years ago) link

I dunno really. If that was the case, wouldn't "The Missing Notebook Rhymes" have been more substantial? One of them was JJ DOOM's "Pause Tape" with JJ's verse lopped off. And the trouble that project caused with people DOOM owed music to.

A lot of people feeling like there's gonna be a Madvillainy sequel but I'd be kinda surprised to see it.

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 7 May 2021 14:04 (two years ago) link

xp

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 7 May 2021 14:04 (two years ago) link

I thought Madlib said it was coming?

My feeling is that there's probably a lot of stuff half finished, and frankly, I'd imagine his wife and children could use whatever money can come in via new releases

guest verses from del and dmc, wow

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Friday, 7 May 2021 14:23 (two years ago) link

Did he? There was all this noise about how it's "85% done" (which has been the case for like a decade) and something about DOOM's manager giving his blessing. At the moment Stones Throw can sell as much of the original as they print. I have no doubt they'll get around to some new Madvillain product but I think it's more likely to be a collection of mostly already-released stray tracks or an EP of the ones that didn't get an official release yet. It's hard to imagine there's a lot that hasn't gotten any airing at all yet (or doesn't contain verses that ended up on another thing). But then 25 minute albums are a thing now.

xp

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 7 May 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link

And the trouble that project caused with people DOOM owed music to.

yeah my sense is theres probably a lot of unreleased/half-finished music around and not a lot of consensus about who owns it

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 7 May 2021 14:49 (two years ago) link

Got to be some doom stuff sitting at home with his family. Impossible that there wouldnt be, even if it's just beats.

candyman, Friday, 7 May 2021 14:57 (two years ago) link

eh so this new album is not enough DOOM and way too much Eso. Not barrel scrapings exactly but nothing revelatory or crucial either

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 8 May 2021 20:21 (two years ago) link

does it matter?

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 May 2021 14:49 (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol

candyman, Monday, 10 May 2021 10:34 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

Shoulda done a series of the random dudes who would perform as him

i just realized that megalon's "who you want me to be/true thugging mc..." line was a buju banton reference

Heez, Monday, 26 June 2023 20:37 (nine months ago) link

saw this earlier.
i had no idea re him having any connection to leeds.

mark e, Thursday, 6 July 2023 20:48 (nine months ago) link

Yeah i know. Wondering if he was living in the UK at the time so that he could get NHS treatment? Anyway what a sad and somewhat mundane way to go :(

NickB, Thursday, 6 July 2023 20:52 (nine months ago) link

so many mysteries surrounded his death - like, wasn't he supposed to have died some time before his family made it public?

serving aunt (stevie), Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:08 (nine months ago) link

this story, though... what a waste. what a tragedy.

serving aunt (stevie), Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:09 (nine months ago) link

Yeah i know. Wondering if he was living in the UK at the time so that he could get NHS treatment? Anyway what a sad and somewhat mundane way to go :(

― NickB, Thursday, July 6, 2023 1:52 PM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he was born in the uk, grew up and lived in the us and then was deported later in life iirc

Bongo Jongus, Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:10 (nine months ago) link

knew he was born in london, didn't know about the deportation though. any idea why?

NickB, Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:13 (nine months ago) link

seems complicated but partially because paperwork was too expensive/never filed when he was a kid, and then a buncha stuff never went through as it should've when he was an adult, plus he kept getting arrested, seems pretty kafkaesque

https://pitchfork.com/features/article/untangling-mf-dooms-lifelong-struggle-with-the-us-immigration-system/

Bongo Jongus, Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:18 (nine months ago) link

oh thanks!

NickB, Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:22 (nine months ago) link

Slick Rick similarly faced deportation to the UK (Jesus, where IS he?)

beamish13, Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:29 (nine months ago) link


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