Long Fin Killie - Classic or Dud?

lipstick(original)
love life
rhino
nation
clinch
cz
boyracer
stacked
angel
vanilla
suki
butterbelly

that's a pretty great record actually. maybe an edited version of 'butterbelly' which is probably too long.

No "Flaccid Tabloid," then? Otherwise I have all those except "Rhino" and "Vanilla."

it was
blue vinyl-
a-rhino
b-home erectus
red vinyl-
a-heads of dead surfers
b-flower carrier(pruned version)
white vinyl-
a-vanilla
b-love smothers allergy

i have no other b-sides.

oh, & has anyone picked up LS's new novel, Venus As A Boy? I've managed to grab 2ndhand copies of his first two (even I've been deferring the pleasure of reading them) from my work . . .

This is one of my favourite bands, and was for a long time in part due to their mystery. Back in the day of CDNow(this was 97, maybe?does it still exist in any form?), I'd use the 'similar artists' link to find lots of bands, and eventually heard several 30 second RealAudio clips from Amelia, largely because I loved the cover so much. I saved the clips from 'British Summertime', 'Kismet' and 'Sugar Helping', constantly wondering what happened to the songs, what the whole album was, where the band was from, whether they were still around, and whether I could ever find an album. I eventually tracked down all three used, and wasn't disappointed a bit.

Long Fin Killie is like Suzanne Vega for me, in that I was so proud of enjoying and having discovered them in high school, to the piint that I can't be objective. Oh, and then Bows came out just as I was into Portishead and Hooverphonic and Curve and I swooned for Luke Sutherland all over again.

Valentino is probably my favourite. It's more muscular, in a sense, and maybe their most confident. The title track is the best example of barely restrained sexual anger I can think of in a song, without being cartoonish. There are undoubted classics on Houdini too, though. Lamberton Lamplighter, of course, and Love Smothers Allergy, Hollywood Gem..

yeah. CLASSIC.

DUDE PLAYS SOME NICE VIOLIN IN A FEW MOGWAI SONGS

(It's true; I often pre-judge records a little based upon the relative lengths of the songs...)

Amelia is also ace although I know it less well. Valentino I just ordered.

I've been propositioned by girls before
On me lamp rounds
Oh yes, I have
But I'm at pains to explain it's not my line of trade
Buying flowers and chocolate mice
It's just the thought of commitment's totally wild
Any sort of commitment's out of order
Isn't it?

I've had some girls come up to me
Who said it won't take that long
Just a quick one up the back
One for the road
And I'm at pains to explain I'm not that type of guy
Send the sulking (?) bitches on their way

I seem to have a lot more time for guys
Don't get me wrong now
Don't get me wrong now
It's just their wit and charm and conversation
Captures youth and that's the truth
Oh and youth's the time when cares traipse free...

I've had some girls come up to me
Who said it won't take that long
Just a quick one up the back
One for the road
And I'm at pains to explain I'm not that type of guy
Send the sulking (?) bitches on their way

Louis do you like LOOSE FUR?

ah, i was going to ask the same question: "anyone heard We Can Love You? his band with Speaker Bite Me people?"

The first Bows (Luke Sutherland) album Blush hit all my buttons in 1999.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjauvpx-zuY

Amelia is really one of the all-time greats. Wish I'd gotten around to making that singles comp I muttered about 8(!) years ago upthread.

AFAIK Luke Sutherland's mainly doing music work for theatre in Scotland? Would love to hear him score a film, &c.

Wish I'd gotten around to making that singles comp I muttered about 8(!) years ago upthread.

No time like the present. At least post the tracklisting!

the bows album is great, something I bought on a whim because it was $2 and it looked like something I would like. didn't even know about the LFK connection at the time.

make sure you get both albums.

I went ahead and put together that singles comp and it's kicking my ass!

Spotify has a couple of the albums. "British Summertime" is playing and it's glorious.

Blimey, how the heck did I miss this band the first time around?! Fortunately everything's cheap used from Amazon.

I went ahead and put together that singles comp and it's kicking my ass!

― Gerald McBoing-Boing

Ha, tracklisting? All my CDs/7"s are on the other side of the world, and my portable HDD is dead. Loved the woodcut-style artwork on some of them.

Pretty sure I had all of the singles at some point. Not sure why I got rid of them (to buy other records, of course, but...), though I do still have the Lipstick CD5.

All-too-brief and blurry appearance in here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jogCPK0we6k

One day I'll have to sit down and transcribe the lyrics to Amelia.

Any Sutherland updates?

Seems so... https://revmagnetic.bandcamp.com

For etc, my apologies for flaking on this in 2012. I have since gone back and picked up everything they did, it's all fantastic.

The Complete Singles (non-LP tracks only):
Suki
Boy Racer
Butterbelly (these 3 from the "Butterbelly" CD single)
Flaccid Tabloid
Stacked (these 2 from "The Heads Of Dead Surfers" CD single)
Flower Carrier (Pruned version) (from the "Heads Of Dead Surfers" 7")
Vanilla (from the "Vanilla" 7")
Rhino (from the "Rhino" 7")
Angel
Nation
Clinch (these 3 from the "Hands And Lips" CD single)
Lipstick (original)
CZ
Love Life (these 3 from the "Lipstick" CD single)

Classic classic classic!

Will now endeavour to collect up those singles tracks.

Ned remember when we both went to an LA ilxor brunch 7 years ago and you gave me a Long Fin Killie CD?

Ah, cheers Gerald!

Stoked to hear new Luke Sutherland stuff - Rev Magnetic def. closer to LFK than, say, Music A.M.

I like all of their elements: the drumming specially which is very unique for the genre and the decade but they have a frustrating tendency to get stuck on a great groove and not do much with it.

Also I don’t mind Luke’s whispery vocals but they are usually the least interesting sound in every song. They could’ve benefitted from a second, more dynamic vocalist. He made it work well in the Bows albums with a female vocalist.

That drums and the way they produced them though. Reason enough to listen.

I feel like a douche saying “ my favorite thing from this obscure underground indie band is an obscure 7 inch single with songs that are not found in any of their albums” but Lipstick really might be my favorite one from them.

The original, non-remix version is miles better than the album version and might just be my favorite song from them. the drummer playing non-programmed drum n bass is more interesting and the finale with strings is gorgeous. CZ is a great instrumental too and feels a nice change to not have Luke’s vocals on top. And Love Life is surprisingly catchy coming from them and sounds like it’s intentionally (?) taking its bass groove from “White Lines”.

Saw Rev Magnetic in Dundee last night. Played six or seven songs, not more than half an hour, all excellent.

Felt like a mix of LFK and Bows, with the bass player contributing vocals, and odd bits of electronic drums. The two songs on bandcamp are pretty representative.

Loved the first two LFK albums... I play them occasionally, they still sound great.

Skimming thru this thread, I guess I should give Amelia another try... it didn’t click with me at the time, but ppl seem to like it!

You should, it's all good. There's a definite evolution in their sound but it all flows really well.

Saw LFK live way back when and liked 'em but haven't played the albums in ages. I should though. I should check out Rev Magnetic songs too

Stuart Braithwaite was on 6music earlier and mentioned that Rev Magnetic had just joined Rock Action.

New Rev Magnetic song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCit3jqPhy8

Album ('Versus Universe') out today, listening now and very much enjoying it. Nothing's hit me as immediately as "Like No Girl That Ever Was" (not on the album) but that set a pretty high bar. Maybe Bows re-cast as a rock band?

Looking forward to hearing it. Few months late on the last single:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MuW7hYEFOI

Valentino is probably my favourite. It's more muscular, in a sense, and maybe their most confident. The title track is the best example of barely restrained sexual anger I can think of in a song, without being cartoonish.

― derrick (derrick), Monday, May 10, 2004 11:32 PM (fifteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

"coward" is all time

Listening to Houdini for the first time in about twenty years.... and it still transports me. LS's lyrics.... the music.... instrumentation... a truly timeless album. Won't be twenty more before I pull this one out again.

lol listened to this band for the first time the other day and I, too, thought:

DOES l0u1s jagg3r LIKE LONG FIN KILLIE?
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, February 2, 2007 7:19 AM (sixteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Nice mark e smith cameo

The Heads of Dead Surfers is all time imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ooc0R4fEWM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvcXhuE_cIk

Random Sunday morning thought: what's Sutherland up to these days?

well, as of a year ago:

https://lyceum.org.uk/whats-on/production/luke-sutherland-composing-stories-workshop

I didn’t know he was in Mogwai. I see even his Wikipedia page only spends two sentences on LFK… :/

(In fairness, the band does have its own entry)

Stef Smith
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Mar 7
The news is out! I'll be adapting @amy_may's stunning memoir The Outrun.

Directed by @vicfeatherstone and with an epic new score from Luke Sutherland. Thankful to all of them for being up for the adventure. Humbled, nervous, excited. See you in August 💙 x.com/edintfest/stat…

Luke Sutherland has a new band, Rev Magnetic. Not sure if they're doing anything just now, but worth checking out. https://revmagnetic.bandcamp.com/music

He was also a regular at Tony Bevan's free improv matinee, Help Me I'm Melting. I've not been in a while as I've left Glasgow, but he was always great. Beautiful guitarist and he'd also do processed vocal stuff, bringing an r 'n b sensibility into free music.

Rev Magnetic album came out in 2019.

On the Rev Magnetic Facebook page it says that in April 2023- Long Player. Jer Reid and Luke Sutherland will play for 7 hours. A working day. Beyond a working day. It’s an open studio. An invitation for you to dance, draw, sit, listen, speak into the mic provided. Come and go as you like

Not seeing any new posts on the band's Instagram page since February 2023

So I guess Sutherland is busy with that score djh mentioned

Missed the RM posts from a while back. Think everyone has various projects/family stuff going on, but hopefully there's more to come.

That Long Player with Jer sounds great - wish I'd caught it.