NPR - stuffy or sexy?

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This American Life=classic.

turner, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...
Kenneth Tomlinson is trying to ruin NPR.

youn, Friday, 6 May 2005 02:18 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd hardly call NPR "sexy," but I listen to it all the time. Search: WNYC hosts Brian Lehrer and Leonard Lopate, Fresh Air with Terry Gross, Marketplace, and the news programming. Destroy: any "radio essays," about 75% of their music reporting, Daniel Schorr, and a good bit of All Things Considered.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 6 May 2005 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link

except when "fresh air" interviews gene simmons or bill o'reilly!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:07 (fourteen years ago) link

lehrer rulez, terry gross drools.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:07 (fourteen years ago) link

our npr station sucks, but i used to wish i could say "this is all things considered, i'm linda wertheimer" because she sounded so freaking sexy saying it!

tehresa (tehresa), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link

"fresh air" should sponsor a debate b/w bill o'reilly and ludacris -- i'd listen to THAT.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd hardly call NPR "sexy," but I listen to it all the time. Search: WNYC hosts Brian Lehrer and Leonard Lopate, Fresh Air with Terry Gross, Marketplace, and the news programming. Destroy: any "radio essays," about 75% of their music reporting, Daniel Schorr, and a good bit of All Things Considered.

as I've said before, most of WNYC's original talk programming (which doesn't include Terri Gross) is superfluous and responsible for largely eliminating NY's only non-Top 100 classical music programming. I like Marketplace, but don't see anything special about it. and while ME and ATC have seen better days, 'destroy'ing Daniel Schorr is heresy, sorry.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link

NPR Presents: Bumfights

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link

so wnyc is responsible for q-104.3 (which was a classical station pre-1994)?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link

responsible for largely eliminating NY's only non-Top 100 classical music programming.

What about WKCR?

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:25 (fourteen years ago) link

And sorry, but calling Brian Lehrer and Leonard Lopate "superfluous" -- that's heresy.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:25 (fourteen years ago) link

96.3 is to classical music what q-104.3 is to "classic rock."

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:26 (fourteen years ago) link

no, in addition to a handful of NPR shows (ME, ATC, APHC), WNYC programmed primarily classical and other non-popular music until the private foundation that Giuliani sold it to used 9/11 as an excuse to accelerate its move away from such programming

What about WKCR?

it's the best radio station in NY, probably, but a mixed-format one. weekday morning classical and weekday late afternoon new music isn't nothing, but it does not a 'classical music station' make.

And sorry, but calling Brian Lehrer and Leonard Lopate "superfluous" -- that's heresy.

it's really not

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:32 (fourteen years ago) link

A lot of these topics don't seem superfluous to me:

http://www.wnyc.com/shows/bl/archive.html?month=200504

Nor do these:

http://www.wnyc.com/shows/lopate/archive.html?month=200504

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Public Broadcasting and Partisan Politics on To the Point. I get the impression that it has happened before and NPR has survived, but it's sort of alarming, especially in relation to other things that have come up lately, e.g., Neocons Lay Seige to the Ivory Towers. Maybe it's an orchestrated effort in response to another orchestrated effort -- I mean calling things Orwellian and saying that there is a culture war -- but then again maybe there is.

I was surprised to hear that Nina Totenberg has that much influence.

youn, Friday, 6 May 2005 03:38 (fourteen years ago) link

they do to me (xp)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:40 (fourteen years ago) link

(Okay, the link from the show explains it. - xp)

youn, Friday, 6 May 2005 03:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Certainly a few of them are (Jane Fonda, the poetry thing, etc.), but the majority of them seem pretty fucking relevant (the emerging Indian and Chinese economies, our tax system, religious fundamentalism, etc.)

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:42 (fourteen years ago) link

god gabbneb you are such a fucking snot sometimes.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:43 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, the emerging Indian and Chinese economies, our tax system, religious fundamentalism really aren't covered anywhere else

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Not really on the radio, and certainly not in depth on the radio.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:45 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm a snot because i don't like the replacement of unique programming with duplicative programming or because i'm talking about classical music?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:46 (fourteen years ago) link

One of the Lopate shows had Ryszard Kapuscinski and Wole Soyinka together as guests, for example. Where else on radio, or on TV for that matter, do you get that sort of thing?

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:46 (fourteen years ago) link

so the market NPR should serve is people who don't have time to read the newspaper? i think that could be a valid argument, but is it really yours?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:47 (fourteen years ago) link

The death of classical radio is a lamentable phenomenon, but frankly, I don't think NPR is primarily responsible for it.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:47 (fourteen years ago) link

so the market NPR should serve is people who don't have time to read the newspaper? i think that could be a valid argument, but is it really yours?

-- gabbneb (gabbne...), May 6th, 2005.

Um, so then you're arguing that NPR should be for people who don't have a classical library? I don't follow.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I should probably specify that I have a job where I have to drive quite a bit. You can't really read a newspaper while driving.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not accusing NPR of responsibility. I'm saying WNYC has a choice of what to program, and, having lost its city charter, the foundation that runs it has jettisoned classical music programming in the interest of increasing listener contributions (and, probably, the audience). It hasn't eliminated such programming entirely, and the stuff it's added isn't terrible, but I don't think it performs the public service it used to.

Um, so then you're arguing that NPR should be for people who don't have a classical library? I don't follow.

no, because it played stuff that went beyond the limits of most libraries. the same analogy doesn't apply to WNYC talk shows vs. the New York Times.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:51 (fourteen years ago) link

the NYT doesn't play Medeski Martin and Wood in its bumpers, though

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:52 (fourteen years ago) link

it doesn't perform the public service it used to by servicing more of the public - typical.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:53 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't really find listening to radio interviews/call-ins to be anything like reading a newspaper. The format just entirely changes the experience, and even the content.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:53 (fourteen years ago) link

YES OMG I AM SUCH AN ELITIST OMG HOW COULD I FAIL TO EQUATE MASS MEDIA WITH SERVING THE PUBLIC

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:54 (fourteen years ago) link

the NYT doesn't play Medeski Martin and Wood in its bumpers, though

-- gabbneb (gabbne...), May 6th, 2005.

But it probably would if it had bumpers. That doesn't strike me as a very significant criticism though.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:54 (fourteen years ago) link

YES OMG I AM SUCH AN ELITIST OMG HOW COULD I FAIL TO EQUATE MASS MEDIA WITH SERVING THE PUBLIC

-- gabbneb (gabbne...), May 6th, 2005.

But that's just it, NPR fills a niche that the rest of radio does not. And in many situations (driving, working, etc.) radio is the only media you can take in.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 6 May 2005 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link

this isn't a question of NPR vs. non-NPR. it's a question of the programming choices for the FM station of an NPR affiliate in a city in which three other stations (plus WNYC-AM) carry at least select NPR programming

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 6 May 2005 04:03 (fourteen years ago) link

WNYC could easily run its entire daytime lineup on the AM station (as it pretty much used to do, I think) and keep classical music on FM. it's a question of priorities.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 6 May 2005 04:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I could live with that, though it is nice to hear the crystal-clear speaking voices on FM.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 6 May 2005 04:06 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...
OK I'm starting to think Terry Gross kind of sucks.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:45 (twelve years ago) link

Did you hear the one today where at great length she rephrased the same question twice about evangelicals wanting to usher in armageddon?

Maria :D (Maria D.), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:52 (twelve years ago) link

I only caught the end of it, which segued from her not questioning the idea that Israel should be able to do whatever the fuck it wants into "Hey you speak Hebrew - waht's Borat really saying in that movie?"

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:53 (twelve years ago) link

I caught the one today. There were multiple questions about Borat, at the end. I guess she just ran out of good questions.

I definitely remember the repeated question about Evangelicals not really wanting to prevent armageddon from happening. I can't really comment too much on it, because I don't remember exactly what was said, but I do remember feeling that the interviewee was sort of avoiding the question a little bit.

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Friday, 19 January 2007 05:16 (twelve years ago) link

It was pretty embarassingly dumb though "HAY YOU SPEAK HEBREW - WOTS THIS SAY?" - couldn't she have just asked Baron Cohen himself in the stupid interview she did with him?

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 19 January 2007 05:19 (twelve years ago) link

Where I grew up, the local NPR affiliate had the most intelligent radio programming by a long shot. It's nice to listen to a radio show and hear calm voices talking about important issues instead of some right-wing nut bloviating about how disagreeing with the President is treason.

Nathan P1p (hoyanathan), Friday, 19 January 2007 05:53 (twelve years ago) link

Where/when did you grow up?

ewe never broke yr treo 4ever (ex machina), Friday, 19 January 2007 06:46 (twelve years ago) link

I like Terry Gross, a lot, but I'll never forget her trying to take down Ice-T over "Cop Killer" during the 1992 riots. His response was very close to "Lady, nobody's listening to my record right now."

A Radio Picture (Rrrickey), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:30 (twelve years ago) link

Not the point, but anyone listen to All Songs Considered, online broadcasting shows from 9:30 Club in D.C.? Some good 'uns there but the presenter drives me up the wall.

uptoeleven (uptoeleven), Friday, 19 January 2007 12:18 (twelve years ago) link

Where/when did you grow up?

In the 90s in Southwest Ohio.

Nathan P1p (hoyanathan), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

I normally like Terry Gross ok. I think her downfall is when she either likes or dislikes someone too much - she becomes nervous and either sycophantish or flustered.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

terry gross is fucking awful. miserably imperceptive, shallow, repetitive, selfish interviewer. seems to not know anything about anything.

geoff (gcannon), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

I gotta say I love Code Switch, the new NPR podcast.

banjoboy, Saturday, 9 July 2016 19:08 (three years ago) link

there's a new girl who does the support/benefactor spots and her delivery is so affectedly smooth and precisely enunciated it makes me wanna hurl

skateboard of education (rip van wanko), Saturday, 9 July 2016 19:51 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Cokie Roberts: Commentator Says Supporters of Donald Trump Are 'Morally Tainted'

brass fucking balls

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 04:29 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

Diane Rhem's last show will air today. (Fear not, she says she wants a podcast!)

I thought her show was a good way to dig under the surface of headlines . . .The show topics were always prescient and she seemed to get good guests.

Beyond the standard NPR liberal bias, she didn't inject much of her personal life into the show. If she had any great auses or passions, I wasn't aware of them.

Her voice never bothered me at all.

Any superfans or h4t3rz?

rip van wanko, Friday, 23 December 2016 11:12 (two years ago) link

"sexy npr" is a rather disappointing GIS.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Bh02IobCbGM/TdCH3WaZ3RI/AAAAAAAAGU4/HEgQmmpX2CM/s1600/cokie.jpg

Least-satisfying overall (Sanpaku), Friday, 23 December 2016 23:02 (two years ago) link

nine months pass...

One of my youtube habits is to go through random "Tiny Desk Concerts" videos, and I'm shocked at how awful the vast majority of them are. I don't think the people selecting these bands have any taste at all, they just want stuff that superficially has that cloying "Tiny Desk" aesthetic, and occasionally this formula accidentally results in a great performance by a great band. Or maybe it's just that most bands suck, in general.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 9 October 2017 15:58 (one year ago) link

that aesthetic makes my skin crawl but the christian scott and gucci mane tiny desk concerts are so good i can try to overlook the national playing ukeleles or whatever

adam, Monday, 9 October 2017 16:41 (one year ago) link

The NPR music people seem to sincerely like/love most of the music they highlight.

sacral intercourse conducive to vegetal luxuriance (askance johnson), Monday, 9 October 2017 17:04 (one year ago) link

Steve Innskeep is a straight up dealbreaker when it comes to me listening to npr for morning news

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:13 (one year ago) link

pinegrove tiny desk is also incredible

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 9 October 2017 17:14 (one year ago) link

I used to think KEXP Live was kinda corny and twee. Then Tiny Desk comes around

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:21 (one year ago) link

I guess I'm just surprised at how many corny, mediocre, old-man-hat style bands there are in the world.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 9 October 2017 17:30 (one year ago) link

Steve Innskeep is a straight up dealbreaker when it comes to me listening to npr for morning news

you mean that if it's no inskeep, it's not a must-listen, or that if it is inskeep, you'd rather listen to nothing at all?

i didn't binge-listen to NPR until i had a temp job in data entry for about a year. i'd spend the entire day mindlessly QCing spreadsheet data with headphones on, and really began to rely on NPR and other talk radio to get me through the day. morning edition was an important part of the routine. i'd listen to it all the way across the workbridge from morning arrival to lunch. i started to like this steve inskeep character, or just the reliable tenor of his voice, really.

then i took a few years off from morning edition, and whenever i heard snippets of it i subconsciously associated it with entering and reviewing spreadsheet data for hours on end, so i'd turn it off. now when i listen to morning edition, steve inskeep often actively pisses me off, and i'm not sure why. i think it has something to do with the way he blankly describes everything with the same tone, his weak interview questions, and even weaker follow-up questions. i haven't heard him do a segment on antifa, but listening to steve inskeep talk about antifa and both-sides it to death sounds like torture.

the twist at the end of all of this? i am steve inskeep

Karl Malone, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:36 (one year ago) link

I did a quick search and this came up:

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A is for (Aimless), Monday, 9 October 2017 17:38 (one year ago) link

steve inskeep is death

marcos, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:38 (one year ago) link

i have literally no idea how i missed the christian scott tiny desk concert when it came out but holy shit

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 9 October 2017 17:39 (one year ago) link

@Karl yeah I just can't stomach him. He seems to be actively trying to change the tone of NPR to something a little looser, hipper, more irreverent; which mayyy not be a bad idea -- he's just not the guy to do it

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:42 (one year ago) link

this party is officially started

https://i.imgur.com/2CJvcqz.jpg

Karl Malone, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:45 (one year ago) link

that is not how I imagined his appearance

I was ok with him but now I'm having second thoughts

mh, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:47 (one year ago) link

there's gotta be a bitchin' rat tail back there

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:48 (one year ago) link

steve inskeep shows up at your party at 5:30 pm before you even get home from work, talks to you non-stop for the next two hours as you scramble with preparations, and then leaves the party at 8:45pm because he has to get up super early the next morning

Karl Malone, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:51 (one year ago) link

oh shit i'm steve

mh, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:52 (one year ago) link

NPR HR graciously covers the Jaws Of Life rental fee required for all Steve's dental visits

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:54 (one year ago) link

One of my youtube habits is to go through random "Tiny Desk Concerts" videos, and I'm shocked at how awful the vast majority of them are. I don't think the people selecting these bands have any taste at all, they just want stuff that superficially has that cloying "Tiny Desk" aesthetic, and occasionally this formula accidentally results in a great performance by a great band. Or maybe it's just that most bands suck, in general.

― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, October 9, 2017 11:58 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i feel like i once argued this to you on here, to a rebuttal of 'theyre just high qual live recordings bruv'. i feel vindicated now thank u

flopson, Monday, 9 October 2017 18:03 (one year ago) link

ha! that sounds very plausible. I mean the sound quality of the recording is very nice imo, just the curation is terrible.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 9 October 2017 18:39 (one year ago) link

But then again it looks like they do at least one per week, so I guess I can't totally fault them for not having 50+ good artists per year.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 9 October 2017 18:41 (one year ago) link

lol there was a recent one by a band called The Oh Hellos. Perfect.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 9 October 2017 18:42 (one year ago) link

Blind Pilot
October 21, 2016 • The band's shimmery folk-pop sound, with its vibraphone and overarching vibrancy, is perfectly suited to the space behind Bob Boilen's desk.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 9 October 2017 18:42 (one year ago) link

The Secret Sisters
September 12, 2016 • The Alabama sibling duo's music can be hymn-like: plain but powerful, heartsick and hopeful. Watch The Secret Sisters perform a river ballad, a hymn and a song capturing some old-fashioned loneliness.

Oh god please no

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 9 October 2017 18:45 (one year ago) link

car talk is actually good though

global tetrahedron, Monday, 9 October 2017 21:06 (one year ago) link

i kinda don't mind steve inskeep. when he was temporarily replaced by mary whatever i really hated that bc her voice is so annoying like really bad annoying and i don't like how she says the letter S

assawoman bay (harbl), Monday, 9 October 2017 23:57 (one year ago) link

mary louise kelly, hate her

assawoman bay (harbl), Monday, 9 October 2017 23:57 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

NPR repeatedly referred to Ocasio-Cortez as wanting to abolish the "Federal Immigration Agency" this morning, instead of abolishing ICE. There is no such agency as the Federal Immigration Agency, there are like six different agencies that deal with immigration. ICE is just the police state wing.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:49 (one year ago) link

keep thinking that, sheeple

rehab hot (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:27 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

"Coming up, the puzzle with Will Shortz and an interview with Cathy Guisewhite!" I don't think I've ever turned anything off so fast.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 April 2019 12:44 (three months ago) link

If you take the name of Cathy's boyfriend and rearrange the letters, you end up with this word that perfectly describes Will Shortz. What is it?

del griffith, Sunday, 14 April 2019 18:01 (three months ago) link

I can't help but be a little fascinated by Will because of his association with the world's greatest sport (table tennis). But it's almost comical how reluctant and low energy a presence he is on air

rip van wanko, Sunday, 14 April 2019 22:03 (three months ago) link

he might be the most npr person on npr

be the 2 chainz you want 2 see in the world (m bison), Sunday, 14 April 2019 22:34 (three months ago) link

i was going to come to this thread to complain about on being with krista tippett. now that farmers' market season has returned i'm driving at 7:30 a.m. on sundays and she makes me want to drive into a wall mmm yeah

forensic plumber (harbl), Monday, 15 April 2019 01:20 (three months ago) link

i've seen people mock her by calling her 'christian tidbit' lol

weekend NPR is the absolute worst with car talk being the only exception

global tetrahedron, Monday, 15 April 2019 03:23 (three months ago) link

wait wait dont tell me is p good but theres a show called "ask me another" and it might be worse than prarie home companion, yikes

be the 2 chainz you want 2 see in the world (m bison), Monday, 15 April 2019 04:13 (three months ago) link

oh god that one is horrible. it has that particular self-satisfied npr sense of humor. you know the people they play around fundraising time, regular people they have recorded talking about how they love npr. so proud of themselves, for nothing.

forensic plumber (harbl), Monday, 15 April 2019 11:29 (three months ago) link

onnnnn beinggggg

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 April 2019 11:39 (three months ago) link

wait wait don't tell me is awful, the panelists think they're 10x funnier than they actually are

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 17:25 (two months ago) link

When I graduated many, many years ago, my sweet mother gifted me a multi-volume CD box set of many, many hours of Wait Wait Don't Tell Me. She knew I listened to NPR, and I guess I must've mentioned that I sometimes listened to Wait Wait on Saturday mornings, but I guess I didn't make it clear that my listening was entirely passive and my appreciation of it mostly ironic. Anyway, it was very sweet of her and so that's why I waited a few months before placing it directly into the trash can. I like to think that a few days later a 75 year old white liberal dumpster diver's day had been made.

del griffith, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 18:00 (two months ago) link


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