Similar stupid macho peacockery.
― 24 Hour Sex Ban Man (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2016 20:02 (seven years ago) link
how bad do we think this is going to be? (if he wins -- which he could)
― Treeship, Saturday, 23 July 2016 04:28 (seven years ago) link
today i argued with someone that he was qualitatively different than bush because he draws rhetoric and talking points from the conspiratorial far right. other times i think his presidency would mostly seem like a joke. there are already too many deportations under obama and it's not clear how much trump would be able to accelerate that program. maybe all that will happen is that the republican party will try to implement some version of his trade platform, but watered down to an extent that it wouldn't be so bad. maybe he will instinctually stay out of war because it wouldn't put "america first." and maybe elon musk will discover an elixir of immortality, allowing the supreme court to remain unchanged.
― Treeship, Saturday, 23 July 2016 04:35 (seven years ago) link
like i can imagine him as president but i can't really imagine how he would govern. like, with the crime shit he kept bringing up last night, what could he do about that as president? what would a "law and order" presidency look like in america? does he even aspire to do anything or is this just for attention? (the interview with his ghostwriter seemed to indicate "attention" is the only thing he truly craves)
― Treeship, Saturday, 23 July 2016 04:38 (seven years ago) link
you should go hang out with hoos for a while
― mookieproof, Saturday, 23 July 2016 04:40 (seven years ago) link
No, Treeship, if he wins, then the debt rating of the USA would immediately drop, the value of the dollar would plunge, we would have to find a way to immediately re-assure our treaty partners, our trade agreements would be in question, and every other aspiring superpower would start encroaching in whichever direction they felt like. The day after his election would make Brexit look like a dinkleberry. And instead of having two years to figure out how to deal before it really takes effect, the world would have two and half months. It would be a disaster for global stability. His inauguration could quite conceivably take place while a war is breaking out and a depression is settling in.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 23 July 2016 04:45 (seven years ago) link
^ realistic assessment.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 23 July 2016 04:46 (seven years ago) link
It honestly has nothing to do with what he actually does or what Congress tries to do around him. It has everything to do with the fact that he is a known liar and promise breaker who does not understand or believe in any of our institutions and cannot be relied upon by other states to heed promises that our country has made, like paying bills on time, or sending aid when allies are threatened.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 23 July 2016 04:48 (seven years ago) link
Also him getting elected would be a terrifying endorsement/validation/legitimation of a number of loathsome and terrifying views, which will likely have very serious material consequences even if he were unable to get any legislation passed or enact anything from the Oval Office.
― we're gonna live in spatula city (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 23 July 2016 05:01 (seven years ago) link
it seems like his presidency would immediately consist of a bunch of legal battles about his insane executive orders, followed by his terrifying threats to somehow work around the judicial system
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 July 2016 05:13 (seven years ago) link
The real question is, does our system of government have enough checks and balances in place in order to prevent him from doing anything really catastrophic? Hell they've been able to prevent Obama from accomplishing a whole lot and his ideas were downright reasonable.
(of course, a Trump presidency is terrible in a million other ways, and Tomboto's claim that the debt rating would drop is almost certainly true, which would be a disaster)
― frogbs, Saturday, 23 July 2016 05:15 (seven years ago) link
If anything could stir bipartisanship in congress, it would be uniting to impeach Trump over something he does (take your pick!) within his first 9 months in office.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 23 July 2016 05:17 (seven years ago) link
on day 1 trump will sign an executive order demanding that the credit rating increase
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 July 2016 05:17 (seven years ago) link
xp to me = Ted Cruz and his goons would lead the charge, and every person with a (D) behind their name would sign on.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 23 July 2016 05:18 (seven years ago) link
Like for me the biggest disconnect is that the POTUS may be the most criticized person on the planet (whoever it is) and there are hundreds of examples of Trump being unable to take any criticism whatsoever
― frogbs, Saturday, 23 July 2016 05:19 (seven years ago) link
He's Putin with ridiculous hair.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 23 July 2016 05:20 (seven years ago) link
Ted Cruz doesn't really have goons, but I can see Paul Ryan taking that role.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 23 July 2016 10:38 (seven years ago) link
ted cruz is his own goon
― big rave warrior (rushomancy), Saturday, 23 July 2016 11:54 (seven years ago) link
Goos thoughts tombot. Makes sense that Putin would try to undermine the democrats via hacking/wikileaks
― Treeship, Saturday, 23 July 2016 15:28 (seven years ago) link
tom otm basically which i think will become clearer and become a lot of hill strategy as we go into the fall
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Saturday, 23 July 2016 16:34 (seven years ago) link
For the sort of voter who finds Trump palatable, the idea of our debt rating being downgraded would be so remote from their concerns that Trump could simply flip it and make it a point of pride that the USA is the best and most powerful country in the world and can thumb its nose at debt ratings. Kind of like with Brexit voters.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 23 July 2016 17:34 (seven years ago) link
idk, some voters are probably just voting for him bc he is a republican.
― Treeship, Saturday, 23 July 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link
i talk to people who don't recognize trump's uniqueness
― Treeship, Saturday, 23 July 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link
people who don't recognize Trump's uniqueness are not going to recognize the importance of debt ratings either
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 23 July 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link
I'm still blown away by the absolute ignorance required to vote Trump. Either you'd really have to have no idea how the world, let alone America, works, or you'd have to completely not care, and with every interview of a Trump voter I hear, it sounds like a scary combination of these two things. Factor in Trump's near complete lack of details to date - he'll make America great/strong/rich though sheer force of will, it seems - and it's like watching people ride the world's biggest escalator to nowhere. https://mollylauterbach.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/ic6gn6e0tapnh.gif
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 July 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-nato-we-have-to-walk
Is this shit for real? Was he actually referring specifically to NATO when he said they don't pay us enough?
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 26 July 2016 02:40 (seven years ago) link
he wants to run the US military like the mafia. we will protect their allies..... if they pay up
― Treeship, Tuesday, 26 July 2016 02:42 (seven years ago) link
wtf is he even talking about?
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 26 July 2016 03:02 (seven years ago) link
oh, i guess this stuff: http://www.wsj.com/articles/nato-calls-for-rise-in-defence-spending-by-alliance-members-1434978193
lol:
Jonah Goldberg RetweetedGarry Kasparov✔@Kasparov63
Bernie Sanders lost, but it’s a serious worry for America that he will have more capable followers & that Socialism is being normalized.3m
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 July 2016 03:03 (seven years ago) link
you might just say we are all "pawns" to him, right Garry?
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 26 July 2016 03:07 (seven years ago) link
eff garry kasparov
― Treeship, Tuesday, 26 July 2016 03:36 (seven years ago) link
eff chess
― Treeship, Tuesday, 26 July 2016 04:07 (seven years ago) link
maybe it's time for Mr Kasparov to check...............his privilege
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Tuesday, 26 July 2016 04:07 (seven years ago) link
Socialism is pretty normalized in every western European country, Garry. So your worrying need to broaden considerably. I suggest moving to a 20-hour day of worrying to make up for lost time.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 July 2016 04:12 (seven years ago) link
man alive A+/gold star/nobel prize
― Treeship, Tuesday, 26 July 2016 04:31 (seven years ago) link
Kasparov is genuinely bonkers and appears to believe in the Phantom Time Hypothethis iirc.
― On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Tuesday, 26 July 2016 04:54 (seven years ago) link
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― Treeship, Tuesday, 26 July 2016 05:11 (seven years ago) link
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/09/trumps-intellectuals/492752/
Have America’s leaders really “abandoned the basic principles of constitutional governance”? Masugi directs readers desiring amplification to something called the “Journal of American Greatness.” Noonan does too. She calls the journal “a sophisticated, rather brilliant and anonymous website that is using this Trumpian moment to break out of the enforced conservative orthodoxy of the past 15 years.”
That’s one way of describing it. During its four months of life, the “Journal of American Greatness”—which featured a collection of writers with classical pseudonyms and an affinity for the German American political theorist Leo Strauss—made a highbrow case for overthrowing America’s existing political order and replacing it with the raw, dynamic, intoxicating energy of Donald Trump. The journal shuttered itself in June after some of its contributors grew worried that their identities would be exposed. But the conservative author Steven Hayward, who knows several of its authors, predicts that they will continue publishing in other venues. Already, he says, they have received several offers for book contracts.
The “Journal of American Greatness” makes explicit what Noonan, Hanson, and Gingrich imply: that America’s current system of government is illegitimate. One article declares, “The digits of one hand suffice to count all of the truly committed defenders of American sovereignty, liberty, and nationhood in Congress.” A second asserts that the United States is “post-Constitutional.” A third accuses Washington conservatives of a “decadence so deep that it would take some Oliver Cromwell to puncture.”
― goole, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link
Sounds v dark enlightenment
― Mordy, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link
*rolls eyes* strauss luvrs *makes jerkoff motion*
― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link
Trump proves how useless Language is.
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 24 September 2016 00:00 (seven years ago) link
it's a virus i hear
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 24 September 2016 00:10 (seven years ago) link
I appreciate the sentiment, but Trump's single example cannot prove such a generality.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 24 September 2016 00:24 (seven years ago) link
idk man I don't think proof matters very much when language is useless
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 24 September 2016 00:30 (seven years ago) link
especially sentences
― los blue jeans, Saturday, 24 September 2016 03:18 (seven years ago) link
trump never forms recognizable sentences, which right there tends to reduce the usefulness of his Language imo
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 24 September 2016 03:21 (seven years ago) link
Nothing is real, everything is permitted, man
― Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Saturday, 24 September 2016 03:44 (seven years ago) link
I abide by the laws of physics.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 24 September 2016 16:32 (seven years ago) link
Sure, the ones you know about
― Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Saturday, 24 September 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link